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Think he's bitter now, just imagine if Rossi wins tomorrow. JPS will be in here with pie charts & walls of text talking about Rossi getting special tires and how he nearly murdered Marc's entire family at Sepang 2015.
 
His .... game is strong again like back when he used to be relevant. Maybe he is planning a come back.

Maybe, but it is a hell of a good line I reckon ............. subtle as a sledgehammer


When I saw that I could only laugh out loud. Whilst not a fan, I couldn't but think of the groans coming from all the incessantly vindictive tin-foilers who rant on about Rossi being over the hill and only capable of winning with under the table assistance. If nothing else, his continuing capacity to surprise, will keep this season interesting.

If he keeps doing good this season they might just quieten down a bit!

Actually guys , if anything I reckon it all will get louder as this year we see VR with two poles whereas he only had a very small number since 2010 so the tinfoils may have more ammunition (read that as theories), but again they do not award points for qualifying but let the theories start
 
Your emotional instability makes you one hell of a fun target to troll. Anyway, you had no issue with Maverick following Valentino for the first half of Q2, but suddenly found issue when Rossi was behind Maverick. Like I said yesterday, it does not matter what Rossi says or does, you will have a problem with it. In some strange way knowing that I can watch GP racing and enjoy it while you're somewhere pouting in anger at Rossi brings me even more joy.

One of the issues people have with riders following the other (take a side step from this being VR for a second) is that a number of riders over the years would complain or make comment about the practice (yes, VR has commented about riders such as Barbera but he is far from alone)

Thus, when they then benefit by doing the same very action that they complain of with others, people see it is hypocritical and thus will make comment, and of course when one of those involved is Rossi, the comment will be louder.

IMO only, but .... it, it is a race track and the idea of qualifying is to be closer to the front thus you take the advantage of a slip stream if you can so no harm there, but then do not complain if others do the same to you (and this is the issue as most riders knowing that there is a tag-a-long will drop off the pace)
 

And in that same article VR admits that he got the pole because of the tow.

But, for JL (I did not watch practice) if what he says is true in that there were 4 or 5 occurrences where MV and VR just 'happened' to be in the same place at the same time, one could well support his argument/conspiracy.

But again, no rules broken and really for Vinales I see why he would do it, and for Rossi I also see why he would follow Vinales (no conspiracy there) as with both being team mates in 2017/2018 why not start to 'learn' from the other.

It has happened before that when riders change teams suddenly they may find themselves closer to their new team mates and at times have followed so nothing new really (but if it continues, then well yes, questions but again, no rules broken)


What cannot apply in global perception in the same way and what I think would be extremely naive to request, is a complete acceptance by VR and his fans of the fact that a percentage, although small, of Lorenzo's title needs to be linked with Marquez conscious and voluntary alliance to the cause. Cause, as wrong and as paranoid the accusation might be in your opinion, that's what they genuinely think.

So Charlie, what is your opinion of this small percentage of VR's pole positions that can be attributed to receiving assistance from other riders?

Are there question marks on it/them?

Does it lessen or cheapen the achievement?

Or perhaps even, what of the assistance profferred for years by the 'domestique' like performances of VR's team mates to remove valuable points from other riders by beating them on track and thus creating a larger lead for one VR?

Think he's bitter now, just imagine if Rossi wins tomorrow. JPS will be in here with pie charts & walls of text talking about Rossi getting special tires and how he nearly murdered Marc's entire family at Sepang 2015.

So he used the same dude that was used after PI then to 'support a conspiracy'
 
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Haha I mustve missed Norman on a GP bike Gaz

Besides. Are we really referring to golf as a sport?

Sorry JK, I read it as modern history of sport ............... and I reckon if Norman rode GP bikes he could find a way to lose in a one man one lap race
 
Back at le mans Vinales was in the wrong place for VR, as he was just a bit slower than what VR could have done had he been in front.
 
Iannone to square up t1 and cause mayhem.

Lorenzo and Rossi to swap p1/5 by the exit of t1?

whatever happens this should be a decent race.
 
His nurse forgets the medication sometimes...

One vapid post after another, nothing to do with racing 95% of the time. :giggle:

Think he's bitter now, just imagine if Rossi wins tomorrow. JPS will be in here with pie charts & walls of text talking about Rossi getting special tires and how he nearly murdered Marc's entire family at Sepang 2015.

Vudu, I don't care if he wins. He won races last year, he won them the year before that, and the year before that one. I said around June or July last year he wasn't winning the title, and he didn't. I'm not in denial over Rossi's overall negative effect on GP and I do not like him at all. I love how much it bothers you though.
 
Haha I mustve missed Norman on a GP bike Gaz

Besides. Are we really referring to golf as a sport?

Yeah golf is a sport, I play it.

While not the most physically demanding sport out there by any stretch of the imagination, the mental drain far exceeds any other sport I've ever played. The adage is 10% physical, 90% mental.
 
One vapid post after another, nothing to do with racing 95% of the time. :giggle:



Vudu, I don't care if he wins. He won races last year, he won them the year before that, and the year before that one. I said around June or July last year he wasn't winning the title, and he didn't. I'm not in denial over Rossi's overall negative effect on GP and I do not like him at all. I love how much it bothers you though.

You should really start charging Rossi rent for how much time he spends inside your head

I'm a Rossi fan - I'm not extreme though. So I always find it quite amusing when there's people so bitter/angry about him or any other rider for that matter. Some people just need to relax:spin:
 
You forget Greg Norman

Greg Norman is the only player in history to lose all 4 majors in a playoff round.

In fairness, while the 1996 collapse was catastrophic and completely avoidable, some of his other collapses or loses were not entirely his fault. He should have won the 1987 Masters and probably does if Larry Mize --who didn't do much else of note-- doesn't pull a shot out of his ... that rolls into the cup. People say he choked in 1986, but he wasn't the only one in a position to deny Nicklaus that final Masters/major win...Seve Ballesteros did no better.
 
Yeah golf is a sport, I play it.

While not the most physically demanding sport out there by any stretch of the imagination, the mental drain far exceeds any other sport I've ever played. The adage is 10% physical, 90% mental.


It is also one of the most precise sports in terms that a fraction of a millimetre from the sweet spot of the club can be 50 or more metres difference in the outcome

I used to be off 6 but broke my hand and damaged a shoulder, now my bloody handicap would be 26 as a result - pisses me off.

:D
 
Just for the 'special' guy
 

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Greg Norman is the only player in history to lose all 4 majors in a playoff round.

In fairness, while the 1996 collapse was catastrophic and completely avoidable, some of his other collapses or loses were not entirely his fault. He should have won the 1987 Masters and probably does if Larry Mize --who didn't do much else of note-- doesn't pull a shot out of his ... that rolls into the cup. People say he choked in 1986, but he wasn't the only one in a position to deny Nicklaus that final Masters/major win...Seve Ballesteros did no better.

The Masters is the choke that comes to mind when we in Australia talk of sporting chokes

Larry Mize, well that was one of those shots that happen from time to time so not a choke ........
 
Depends. If hes racing Ben Bostrom, ol Ben may get tired and quit half a lap in

Well if we want to match race him against someone - I pick Gobert

Sure Gobert will be quicker but he will be stopping to mug people so frequently to get cash for his next hit Norman could push the bike around and still win





And yes, still saddened by what Gobert has become
 
The Masters is the choke that comes to mind when we in Australia talk of sporting chokes

Larry Mize, well that was one of those shots that happen from time to time so not a choke ........

Yeah it's definitely at the top of my list. Actually Rory McIlroy's choke in 2011 was brutal to watch. Wasn't a huge fan of him, but man, the anguish he had to have been feeling wasn't something I'd wish on any golfer. He redeemed himself quite well at the US Open, but I'm starting to wonder if he might find himself always short at the Masters or not.
 
Yeah it's definitely at the top of my list. Actually Rory McIlroy's choke in 2011 was brutal to watch. Wasn't a huge fan of him, but man, the anguish he had to have been feeling wasn't something I'd wish on any golfer. He redeemed himself quite well at the US Open, but I'm starting to wonder if he might find himself always short at the Masters or not.

I have been lucky enough to caddie at some of the Australian professional tournaments at times and man, it really shows the mental side of teh game far stronger when you are there.

I caddied for a guy in the Australian PGA who started the last round with his name on the leaderboard but he started par, bogey, bogey and that was it, he was mentally shot and no matter what we tried he just could not get going again until around the 17th as by then he was 5 over for the round so pressure off and he relaxed. It was really illuminating to watch as this guy had won tournaments in Oz and Asia (and done so since) and yet the mental side of it all let him down as once he started the slide , he just could not recover

No doubt similar applies to all top sports but being there and amongst it just gives a hell of an insight into how easy it can start and how hard to stop it can be.
 

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