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michaelm said:
Perhaps the same applies to championships.
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In history books, in factual reality, even in global perception: of course it does and of course Lorenzo is the 2015 world champion, a well-deserving one, may I add.

What cannot apply in global perception in the same way and what I think would be extremely naive to request, is a complete acceptance by VR and his fans of the fact that a percentage, although small, of Lorenzo's title needs to be linked with Marquez conscious and voluntary alliance to the cause. Cause, as wrong and as paranoid the accusation might be in your opinion, that's what they genuinely think.
 
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JPSLotus said:
Rossi by far got the best tow of any of the guys towards the top. Iannone couldn't even get close enough to Lorenzo to get sucked past. Rossi did a very nice lap, I've already said it. He got out of the final corner perfectly which is what was huge as every other session this weekend, he seemed to be having issues getting through that 4th sector. During FP2 I thought to myself if he could figure out a way to get through that sector better, he would move up as he was leaving a lot of time on the table there.
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Watch that pole lap -- Rossi was too far from Vinales at the beginning, then got closer thanks to some remarkable late braking. That's why he could use the slipstream on the last straight. Read Brembo statistics if you need confirmation of the visuals: Rossi was the latest rider on the brakes today. That's how he was able to get close enough. Or do you think that Vinales was waiting for him to "offer" him a slipstream? :happy:

Rossi was also ready to concede that without that slipstream he wouldn't have ended in pole probably -- but he still had to earn it on the brakes. Give Caesar his due... :)
 
J4rn0 said:
Watch that pole lap -- Rossi was too far from Vinales at the beginning, then got closer thanks to some remarkable late braking. That's why he could use the slipstream on the last straight. Read Brembo statistics if you need confirmation of the visuals: Rossi was the latest rider on the brakes today. That's how he was able to get close enough. Or do you think that Vinales was waiting for him to "offer" him a slipstream? :happy:

Rossi was also ready to concede that without that slipstream he wouldn't have ended in pole probably -- but he still had to earn it on the brakes. Give Caesar his due... :)
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Damn straight. Rossi Rules!
 
J4rn0 said:
Watch that pole lap -- Rossi was too far from Vinales at the beginning, then got closer thanks to some remarkable late braking. That's why he could use the slipstream on the last straight. Read Brembo statistics if you need confirmation of the visuals: Rossi was the latest rider on the brakes today. That's how he was able to get close enough. Or do you think that Vinales was waiting for him to "offer" him a slipstream? :happy:

Rossi was also ready to concede that without that slipstream he wouldn't have ended in pole probably -- but he still had to earn it on the brakes. Give Caesar his due... :)
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Already said it was a very nice lap J4rn0. Maybe you should read the thread? You guys are hilarious. You're all looking for some gotcha moment that doesn't exist since it was the first thing I said after Q2 was done.
 
J4rn0 said:
Watch that pole lap -- Rossi was too far from Vinales at the beginning, then got closer thanks to some remarkable late braking. That's why he could use the slipstream on the last straight. Read Brembo statistics if you need confirmation of the visuals: Rossi was the latest rider on the brakes today. That's how he was able to get close enough. Or do you think that Vinales was waiting for him to "offer" him a slipstream? :happy:

Rossi was also ready to concede that without that slipstream he wouldn't have ended in pole probably -- but he still had to earn it on the brakes. Give Caesar his due... :)
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That was a perfect slipstream all the way.

Cmon j4rno get real.
 
Lorenzo whines about everything. He has self proclaimed himself perfect so if he is not on top it is someone else's fault. It's never his own fault.

It's funny I'm warming up again to Marquez but the more I see and hear Lorenzo the more I dislike him.
 
For the dumb arse here (I'm joking, but at the same time while I love MotoGP I dont know all the ins and outs)

What exactly do they mean when they refer to Rossi getting a tow from Vin?
 
Daniboy said:
Ahh back to arrogance, never mind, have a nice day ��
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I couldnt be bothered going back and liking all your posts so just consider this a blanket one haha

Plus anyone that likes Shepherds as well gets bonus points in my books haha
 
shaunna said:
For the dumb arse here (I'm joking, but at the same time while I love MotoGP I dont know all the ins and outs)

What exactly do they mean when they refer to Rossi getting a tow from Vin?
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He was in the right place at the right time to take advantage of the draft left by Vinales bike. Slipstreaming can leave a vacuum in the air behind a vehicle in front, this can gain extra speed for the following vehicle.
 
shaunna said:
For the dumb arse here (I'm joking, but at the same time while I love MotoGP I dont know all the ins and outs)

What exactly do they mean when they refer to Rossi getting a tow from Vin?
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Everyone gets a tow from someone since there's generally a bike in front of you at all times under the present qualifying regulations. I liked it better when it was one bike at a time on the track.

Except for Mr. Toad, most riders don't mind if someone tags along as long as they give as well as they get. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it except in Mr. Toad's mind when he ends up on the second row.
 
JPSLotus said:
Already said it was a very nice lap J4rn0. Maybe you should read the thread? You guys are hilarious. You're all looking for some gotcha moment that doesn't exist since it was the first thing I said after Q2 was done.
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Yes you did, then promptly spoiled it with subsequent comments on how Vinales "towed" Rossi, like a faster version of Edwards, and whatnot. So you asked for the reminder. It's clear to everybody who's being hilarious here, Mr. Tobacconist... ;)
 
wannaride said:
Everyone gets a tow from someone since there's generally a bike in front of you at all times under the present qualifying regulations. I liked it better when it was one bike at a time on the track.

Except for Mr. Toad, most riders don't mind if someone tags along as long as they give as well as they get. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it except in Mr. Toad's mind when he ends up on the second row.
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haha I'm at work and I laughed out loud at the Mr Toad comment

So frustrating at work, they are all into AFL so have no one to vent too when needed :furious:
 
wannaride said:
Everyone gets a tow from someone since there's generally a bike in front of you at all times under the present qualifying regulations. I liked it better when it was one bike at a time on the track.

Except for Mr. Toad, most riders don't mind if someone tags along as long as they give as well as they get. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it except in Mr. Toad's mind when he ends up on the second row.
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I think your remembering superpole from wsbk, Moto GP has never had one rider on track for qual practice.
 
J4rn0 said:
Yes you did, then promptly spoiled it with subsequent comments on how Vinales "towed" Rossi, like a faster version of Edwards, and whatnot. So you asked for the reminder. It's clear to everybody who's being hilarious here, Mr. Tobacconist... ;)
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He did tow Rossi and has done it a few times this year already.

Stating a fact no matter how uncomfortable it makes you, doesn't make it any less of a fact.
 

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