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Daniboy said:
The point at which the engine completely blew was two corners in total,he left the track at that point, the rest of it was an obvious loss of power but not so much smoke, and he was well off the racing line as he cruised to the eventual stop.
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So "two corners in total" is a "point"?

Why cruise? Why "eventual"?

Can I ask is English your first language? Maybe that would explain the specious jumbled logic in these posts.


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michaelm said:
On the contrary, what those you take issue with on here are doing is defending JL and MM against ridiculous accusations made by your boy and taken up by his fans of your ilk rather rather strongly. You actually have no arguments to defend Rossi in regard to the events of late season 2015, quite possibly because there are none, and hence continue to make content free posts which can largely be summarised by "oh no it's not" as I have pointed out, and assert the superiority of your position apparently on the basis that you say nothing calmly, in comparison with the greater vehemence of some of your opponents in their presentation of actual arguments.

In this thread the 2 riders about whom you have been doing considerable carping just rode with particular genius and put on the race of the decade, yet you still continue to carp smugly. I have to agree with Keshav on this occasion.

This race of course proved nothing about Rossi, other than that JL might have had something left for a last lap battle with Rossi at PI last year should that have eventuated as he implied,and for MM at Valencia 2015 for that matter, it was bad luck for Valentino and/or bad management by Yamaha.

Defend Rossi's overall career record all you like, I mostly agree with you about that, although imo his recent behaviour does pretty much prove his complicity in the campaigns of vilification against previous rivals.
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Lorenzo and Marquez rode a fantastic race, I never said anything different, are you confused? I also did not defend Rossi's behaviour or his theories, I disputed the 'kick' and will do always until someone gives me concrete evidence otherwise.
 
great race

bad luck to Baz, broken leg or ankle in opening lap t1 crash

MM riding the bull on the last lap. Lorenzo cool as can be, seemingly not to be phased by it.

Bad luck to Rossi. He did run out wide right away, must have known the engine had gone bang and then sit on and roll along for ages. lots of fence on offer to park it up against.
 
Daniboy said:
Are you on steroids or something? According to you anything that doesn't fit your 'theory' is therefore dumb, vapid blah blah. You are so self-important it's unreal. You and Jums post all kinds of ........ theories about supposed advantage afforded to Rossi, sns early switch to Bridgestone yada yada , guess what? I don't believe them and nor do the majority of people in reality. Only in this poisonous little community where you and others of your ilk have bullied your way to making this place your own are your views taken as gospel, elsewhere reality is the defining factor. Dream on.
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Once again, you still have a comprehension problem.

We haven't posted ........ theories, we provided evidence backing up a number of them, that you along with other boppers pretend never happened. Other knowledgeable posters have talked a great deal about the advantages that Rossi was given early in his premier class career during the tail end of the 500cc era and the new 4-stroke formula with the Honda V5 in 2002.

I know you and many more don't believe it because the truth that Rossi is nowhere near the demigod you/others have spent years believing is simply too difficult a thing to get your head around. You can deny all you want about what went on in GP even in spite of all of the supporting evidence, but that doesn't mean it did not happen.

Try and understand that when you post ........, you're going to get called on it.

Try and understand when you post stupid ...., you're going to get called on it.

I told you specifically that if you're going to take positions, make a ....... argument instead of your juvenile approach that you have opted for.

This place might seem poisonous to you. It's not. It only has that effect on people who are rigid in thought, and obstinate for the sake of being obstinate. Try opening your mind to new thought, it'd help you out a lot in your daily life.

Don't like it?

Get the .... off this forum.
 
Daniboy said:
Lorenzo and Marquez rode a fantastic race, I never said anything different, are you confused? I also did not defend Rossi's behaviour or his theories, I disputed the 'kick' and will do always until someone gives me concrete evidence otherwise.
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You specifically criticise Jorge's character all the time, and after such a race which belied most of what he is criticised for by those of your ilk STFU might not have been a bad response for a brief period before continuing with your pre-existing campaign.

What you also continually do is call for everyone to move on from the events of late season 2015 ie ignore they happened, rather conveniently for you given those events are the cause of most of the animus against Rossi to which you so object.
 
Daniboy said:
I take it you just don't like me, so go find the ignore button .
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Your posts are awesome. These haters cans see with Rossi's buttcheecks on their face.
You fools were deprived of the .... of all jizzfests. Rossi was about to check out when his motor checked out. Noone can beat Rossi at Mugello.
More .... coming your way soon
 
9TimeGod said:
Your posts are awesome. These haters cans see with Rossi's buttcheecks on their face.

You fools were deprived of the .... of all jizzfests. Rossi was about to check out when his motor checked out. Noone can beat Rossi at Mugello.

More .... coming your way soon
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Wahahaha!
Congrats DB, the idiots of the world have united and made you their king! [emoji1303]


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9TimeGod said:
Your posts are awesome. These haters cans see with Rossi's buttcheecks on their face.
You fools were deprived of the .... of all jizzfests. Rossi was about to check out when his motor checked out. Noone can beat Rossi at Mugello.
More .... coming your way soon
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Welcome to 2016 Rip Van Winkle
 
aaronl said:
great race

bad luck to Baz, broken leg or ankle in opening lap t1 crash

MM riding the bull on the last lap. Lorenzo cool as can be, seemingly not to be phased by it.

Bad luck to Rossi. He did run out wide right away, must have known the engine had gone bang and then sit on and roll along for ages. lots of fence on offer to park it up against.
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Anyone know what happened? I never saw a replay of the start.
 
MdubSTYLIE said:
Anyone know what happened? I never saw a replay of the start.
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Bautista's fault.

Loris Baz could be forced to miss the next MotoGP race at Catalunya after sustaining a broken right foot in a multi-bike shunt at the start of the Italian Grand Prix.

The French rider was caught up in a three-way crash at the first corner of the Mugello race that was triggered by a mistake by Aprilia rider Alvaro Bautista, who lost the front end and eliminated both Baz and Jack Miller.

While Miller and Bautista both emerged unharmed, Baz was diagnosed with three fractured metatarsals in his right foot, and his Avintia Ducati team has confirmed he will be taken to Geneva for surgery on Tuesday.

"From the first moment [after the crash] I realised that my foot was broken," said Baz. "I got fractures on the second, third, fourth and fifth metatarsus, and a displacement on the first one.

"I got set the first one at the circuit medical centre and I will go to the hospital at Geneva on Tuesday to fix the rest.

"I don’t know how long will take the recovery because is a difficult place and can swell a lot.

"I will follow the doctor's instructions because I don’t want to come back [too] soon and take risks for the next races."
Bautista apologises

For his part, Bautista - who had crashed heavily in morning warm-up and was therefore forced to race on his spare RS-GP - apologised for causing the incident that left Baz injured.

"In the warm-up lap the front brake felt strange, so I adjusted the lever before the start," said Bautista.

"When I got to the first turn I braked normally, but as I was leaning the bike into it I felt the wheel lock up and I crashed.

"I want to apologise to Baz and Miller, who I involuntarily involved in my crash."

Baz in doubt for Catalunya after suffering broken foot
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BTW, Dovi is having arm pump issues...not good for him.

Andrea Dovizioso felt was left to rue arm pump problems as the Ducati rider saw his hopes of a rostrum finish at Mugello fade as Sunday's race progressed.

Dovizioso made a brilliant start from 15th place on the GP16 to slot into third as he gave chase to Movistar Yamaha riders Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi.

However, the Italian was unable to maintain his pace and was caught by team-mate Andrea Iannone and Repsol Honda's Dani Pedrosa in the final part of the race, eventually finishing in fifth place.

“I am happy about the start because I did a great start and a great first lap, so I am happy because I did what I had to do,” Dovi said.

“I was in the right position and the first half of the race was really good, but still I'm not smooth on the bike and I feel too much energy and I have the problem of arm pump, so I wasn't able to push the lap time.

“Mugello is one of the hardest tracks and when you have the arm pump you can't be aggressive in the braking, but especially to stay on the limit, front and rear: the grip today was really low because the temperature today was really hot,” he added.

“I tried everything I could in the last eight laps but I went wide in turn 1 and I wasn't precise. Unfortunately I couldn't use my speed so I'm so sorry for the team.”

Dovizioso feels a rostrum was well within his reach and has taken the positives from the weekend ahead of the next round at Catalunya in Spain, although he is still seeking a set-up that will make the Desmosedici easier to ride.

“The weekend started very bad but practice by practice we improved the situation and also in the warm-up we improved a little bit,” he said.

“We had the pace to fight for the podium and in MotoGP I think it is something nice, but anyway I finished fifth and the positive thing is we finished the race and for sure we had the possibility to finish on the podium.

“My feeling with the bike is good, we are fast and we are able to improve practice by practice. I am happy about how we worked during the weekend but I think we need something from the bike to be easier, not faster, but easier,” he added.

“This is my objective for the future because we have the speed, which is really good, but we need something in a few areas to really stay there in many races, not just in one race like Qatar.”

His fifth row start made life difficult for Dovizioso but he had taken heart from his performance on the opening laps.

“For sure to start in front and start with them makes a difference because you can manage everything for 23 laps,” he said.

“But I started very back and I was nervous about that, so in the first five laps I had to push a lot and [try] not to lose the first three riders.

“Like I said, we have good potential but now we have to be focused to have the same speed in an easy way.

“I struggle with arm pump for a lot of years but sometimes it is big, sometimes not so big and you can manage: the difference is always how fast you are and especially how smooth you are.”

MotoGP News - MotoGP Italy: Dovizioso: Podium charge stifled by arm pump
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MdubSTYLIE said:
Back to his spanish scud missile ways. Brake felt funny on the warm up, I adjusted it before the start went in to the first corner normal(which is to hot) and boom.
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Must be in danger of getting booted from the Aprilia at season's end...FINAL DESPERATION ATTACK.
 
MdubSTYLIE said:
That will make 9timegod happy. dude absolutely loves skeet.
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Absolutely.

Seems that .... fills the air for some (and fills other things for others)





Hell, was even wondering why there are no 'mobile sperm clinics' attending some of these races given the outpouring of manlove
 
I had a thought about the period of the race prior to Rossi's engine blowing up.

It in a nutshell encapsulates how much better GP overall is compared to the 2001/2002 period thru 2005. Had that been Max Biaggi in the lead instead of Jorge Lorenzo, does anyone really believe Rossi doesn't get past him on one of the first 3 to 4 laps? Actually does anyone of that time period even simply not bend with Rossi trying every trick in the book to get past?

It's really a window into how good it was for GP if you are a racing fan, when things started to change in 2006 when the first crop of good talent showed up in Stoner and Pedrosa, and Hayden began the charge against the Rossi-era with his title. In spite of the 2008 and 2009 titles Rossi won, the talent overall has more than matched him and then some. As I've said, these riders, Lorenzo and Marquez in particular do not buy into the Rossi myth, and are not shaken by Rossi at all. That is simply wonderful for racing fans since we see them giving 100% out there, and are not easily rattled out of it.

While many lamented Rossi's exit today, and considered the race over, much like the Ducati period for Rossi, it's always nice to see that great racing happens without Rossi. I wish GP could understand that there is a future without him, and it's nowhere near as bleak as they and others are imagining.
 

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