If there are actual Lorenzo fans (haha, I know there are), theyre not represented on this forum.
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The championship really was lost in Aragon since that was the first time he buckled under pressure while MM and JL cannibalized each other every other weekend. While VR was very strong in the first half of the season, he was not very strong in the second half, especially down the stretch when he most needed it.
Dani Pedrosa single-handedly altered the championship with his comeback at Aragon. Well actually I would say it started at Indianapolis. Even though VR finished ahead of him, he had a lot of trouble doing it, and was very fortunate to have done so. That was the first major crack in the armor.
Sepang was when the crack turned into a rupture.
If he keeps his mouth shut on the Thursday in Sepang and just goes about business, I believe he wins the title.
But like you said, all of this is a smokescreen to cover up his failure.
He didn't do this in 2006 because I think he just chalked it up as nothing more than bad luck, and figured he would pick right up with everything in 2007. Only Casey Stoner happened, and while he bagged the 2008 and 2009 titles, his poor decision making when faced with pressure led to the Ducati adventure. It's remarkable that a guy with a generally high track IQ, torpedoed his own career by refusing to be the guy to support Lorenzo. I can only imagine the pressure he probably feels since after the 2009 title, everyone assumed title 10 was coming right away, and that never happened. Instead what was a foregone conclusion, has now slipped away.
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You make a a claim. Then bring proof for something completely different.
I'm done with you.
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Considering that it made 0 difference where he qualified, I don't think Rossi was too concerned about his pace in Q2.
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Neil Hodgson was called a ...... by Jack Miller on the world feed. That's quite enough. But why? Oh yeah...to point out an utter ...... estimation he had about a GP rider. That is, he was wrong.
That exchange ends with..."that's who everyone is cheering about, the absolute GOAT bla bla. Yeah, really impartial guys.
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NJ
I mispoke since I was thinking about the only group of riders who mattered today; Lorenzo, Marquez, and Pedrosa. As such I assumed everyone would know what I was referencing since he finished in 4th and I sure as hell couldn't have been referencing the other 22 riders behind him.
Do you understand now?
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NJ
Ah so you would rather argue semantics?
I said I mispoke because I assumed everyone would get what I was saying.
Go run home to mommy now.
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NJ
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I've already posted that I'm a Lorenzo fan...
I am ordering a Lorenzo shirt shortly as I said I would be.
Me too
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Not that they didn't try.
Let's cancel the Superbowl of GP press day. Lets not VR distract him, he needs to concentrate please.
Neil Hodgson: so if Pedrosa was second, I think we have a different championship.
Oh I see, if Pedrosa is second, he would have automatically passed Lorenzo, since everyone saw this big sign on Jlo's back "I will only pull over for Dani". How exactly would that have worked? Pedrosa was NOT second. So there goes that "what if" theory. Then when Pedro tried to make a pass his efforts lasted all but one attempt. Of course Lorenzo wouldn't have put up a greater fight than the last time Pedro tried to pass him at Valencia. Oh oh, Nielson, he had forgotten about that. But we would have had a different championship because this time Pedro would have been successful over Lorenzo who was riding for his life while Pedrosa wasn't even able to get past Marquez. Got it.
So Marc lost the title for Valentino, the guy who said, hey, don't fight the championship contenders please. Marc would have taken a huge risk to attempt a pass, already being on the limit. But Neil (and boppers) wanted him to risk a crash to the championship contender? How does that logic work?
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Steve,
I'm not going to edit my earlier posts.
I will tell you what I was trying to say, and I admit it was poorly worded.
VR did not have the race pace to keep up with the top 3 riders.
Once he cleared the field, he was unable to get into the 1'31's at all which would have at the bare minimum kept a consistent gap between himself and the top 3. Instead, he started going backwards, as he did in Sepang prior to the MM assault. Even in Phillip Island, the pace was such he could not overtake and hold position.
VR has been the 4th best against the other 3 in the dry.
If it had rained, he may very well have won the title, but as long as it was going to be dry, with those three at an ungodly pace, he never had a chance.
I'm not going to edit my earlier posts.
I will tell you what I was trying to say, and I admit it was poorly worded.
VR did not have the race pace to keep up with the top 3 riders.
Once he cleared the field, he was unable to get into the 1'31's at all which would have at the bare minimum kept a consistent gap between himself and the top 3. Instead, he started going backwards, as he did in Sepang prior to the MM assault. Even in Phillip Island, the pace was such he could not overtake and hold position.
VR has been the 4th best against the other 3 in the dry.
If it had rained, he may very well have won the title, but as long as it was going to be dry, with those three at an ungodly pace, he never had a chance.
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I'll be keeping up with the sport, but I wont be paying for anymore video passes. Everyone always brings up the so called fans, but they're important when you realize this is a business. I don't think there's going to be any kind of boycott or anything else just because of VR, it was just a ...... way to end a championship no matter who you were rooting for or who you blame. What guys like you on your high horse don't realize is that you need the trendy fans to grow, look at Nascar or even the NFL, I bet 30% of their fans have no clue wtf is going on, but they get to watch for free and get almost unlimited coverage and technical insight into their prospective sports. The nfl has it's own TV channel, and Nascar gets multiple hour long programs pre and post race to break everything down.
The sad part is that next year we should get another great start to the season because of the rule changes and new tires, but there is zero excitement for it.
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In what League in the world is this acceptable? I almost can't believe what I just watched. And Carmelo 's reaction is even more amazing as he represents the "impartial" Organization. Given he didn't chastise Rossi for that indictment on the spot, tells me a lot about Mr. Ezpeleta.
