MotoGP: 2015 round 18 - Valencia (SPOILERS)

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Three open questions for me....
- Will Honda finally release the 'kick' data on Monday?
I have seen enough data proving the kick.

- Will JLo repay the favor next year if the title comes down to Dani and MM?
There was no favouring. Lorenzo drove like a madman. Impressive win. Marquez just couldn't overtake him.

- Will JLo lose more sponsors or will yamaha?
He will only lose some sore Italian sponsors. Who cares. The world is bigger than just Italy. Seeing the way Italian fans behaved during ceremony, you wouldn't want to be supported by such people anyway.
 
I have seen enough data proving the kick.


There was no favouring. Lorenzo drove like a madman. Impressive win. Marquez just couldn't overtake him.


He will only lose some sore Italian sponsors. Who cares. The world is bigger than just Italy. Seeing the way Italian fans behaved during ceremony, you wouldn't want to be supported by such people anyway.

Felicia I think I hear your mom calling you for dinner.
 
You know what is really incredible, Rossi, who did what he did in Sepang, has managed to convince the world he did nothing wrong.

And people here have bought right into Saint Valentino's narrative of, "Poor old me. If only I was allowed to compete fairly."

You know what Rossi really wanted?

He wanted him and Lorenzo to be the only riders on the grid because he knew he would never beat the factory Honda's at Valencia.

He didn't have the ....... pace to keep up with anyone.

It's been this way the last few rounds; he no longer has the pace to keep up with them and pass them.

But instead of admitting this, it's all about blaming everyone else for the fact that he doesn't have the pace anymore. And he has gotten the majority of the public to buy into his 'woe is me' .........

It's put up or shut up. What I would tell him directly to his face, is, try getting the actual pace so you can go faster than every one else if you want win. Being 4th quickest when it matters most doesn't get you wins or titles.
 
You'll find its not Rossi boppers but any person that has followed Marquez career and watched something happen which he's never done before.

Absolutely correct.....For example...2012 Valencia....MM had no reason to win...he already had the title....but from the back of the grid he went on to win the race....
 
Marquez just didn't have the pace of overtaking Lorenzo. Of course, Rossi fans are keeping themselves deluded. Anyway, if Rossi would have been a desvering champion, he shouldn't be needing other's help. He had all in his own hands and he failed. With second position he would win. But he failed to deliver.

Marquez was 0.35 quicker than Lorenzo in warm up, but yeah, he didn't have the pace. :)
 
I have seen enough data proving the kick.


There was no favouring. Lorenzo drove like a madman. Impressive win. Marquez just couldn't overtake him.


He will only lose some sore Italian sponsors. Who cares. The world is bigger than just Italy. Seeing the way Italian fans behaved during ceremony, you wouldn't want to be supported by such people anyway.

Spanish fans were booing their own riders.
 
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Seeing the way Italian fans behaved during ceremony, you wouldn't want to be supported by such people anyway.

Lets remember it was an Italian in charge of the Costa Concordia...

Marquez was 0.35 quicker than Lorenzo in warm up, but yeah, he didn't have the pace. :)

I love how people use Warmup pace to 'prove' their argument.

Marquez did ONE lap 0.35 quicker than Lorenzo. But Lorenzo did more laps under 1:31.5 and more laps under 1:32.0 than Marquez. Plus it was hotter in the race than in the warmup.

Buit of course, one fast lap wins races doesn't it?
 
You know what is really incredible, Rossi, who did what he did in Sepang, has managed to convince the world he did nothing wrong.

And people here have bought right into Saint Valentino's narrative of, "Poor old me. If only I was allowed to compete fairly."

You know what Rossi really wanted?

He wanted him and Lorenzo to be the only riders on the grid because he knew he would never beat the factory Honda's at Valencia.

He didn't have the ....... pace to keep up with anyone.

It's been this way the last few rounds; he no longer has the pace to keep up with them and pass them.

But instead of admitting this, it's all about blaming everyone else for the fact that he doesn't have the pace anymore. And he has gotten the majority of the public to buy into his 'woe is me' .........

It's put up or shut up. What I would tell him directly to his face, is, try getting the actual pace so you can go faster than every one else if you want win. Being 4th quickest when it matters most doesn't get you wins or titles.
Yep. Just repeating his ......... That's how he convinced everyone. Majority of people are dumb so when you keep repeating a lie over and over and over, in the end they will start believe it. Mourinho does the same, by the way. Mourinho is actually the guy from who I learned the existence of this tactic.
 
I have seen enough data proving the kick.

HRC said they would release the actual data on Thursday then backed out....they then said they'd release it on Monday tomorrow, so unless you work for HRC then you will have seen videos....not telemetry data....

There was no favouring. Lorenzo drove like a madman. Impressive win. Marquez just couldn't overtake him.
But do you do think that JLo will help MM next year vs Dani...or anyone else...?

He will only lose some sore Italian sponsors. Who cares. The world is bigger than just Italy. Seeing the way Italian fans behaved during ceremony, you wouldn't want to be supported by such people anyway.
You do realize then when it was just JLo and Spies that they had very few sponsors, and no real major sponsor of the Yamaha factory team ... and that only with Rossi's return did the attract the Moviestar, and bigger Monster Energy drink deals.....maybe that will change now that JLo has his 5th title....but i dont think so...
 
Spanish fans were booing their own riders.

Nonsense. They were Italian Rossi fans. They travelled with many to the track to pull of this crap. Disgusting. It just shows what kind of people they are. The are perverting motorsport with their hooligan behavior.
 
HRC said they would release the actual data on Thursday then backed out....they then said they'd release it on Monday tomorrow, so unless you work for HRC then you will have seen videos....not telemetry data....
The data doesn't matter. Even if the data would consist of a sample of Rossi's DNA that under the microscope says "I kicked Marquez on purpose", Rossi fans will just keep saying that Rossi didn't kick. The only thing I need to see is the videos. He crashed Marquez on purpose. To me he clearly kicks him, but even without the kick Rossi should have been blackflagged because he clearly crashed Marquez on purpose. And all the rest are just stories to avoid the only thing that really matters ... Rossi should have been blackflagged.

But do you do think that JLo will help MM next year vs Dani...or anyone else...?
Do you think Rossi will help Petrucci, Ianone or Dovisioso next year for making him pass so easily this race ?

You do realize then when it was just JLo and Spies that they had very few sponsors, and no real major sponsor of the Yamaha factory team ... and that only with Rossi's return did the attract the Moviestar, and bigger Monster Energy drink deals.....maybe that will change now that JLo has his 5th title....but i dont think so...
Lorenzo is the most succesful Spanish driver of all times. You really think he will lack Spanish sponsors ?
 
Nonsense. They were Italian Rossi fans. They travelled with many to the track to pull of this crap. Disgusting. It just shows what kind of people they are. The are perverting motorsport with their hooligan behavior.

They were Spanish fans. Rossi is far more popular in Spain than either Lorenzo or Marquez.
 
Gentlemen, Valentino's latest comments...


"Today everyone has seen their plan, this makes me sad and it's a very bad thing for our sport,” said Rossi. “I do not understand why a Honda rider allows Yamaha to win [the race]. I hope this behaviour in time turns against him.

“Lorenzo is a very good rider, it would be nice to battle on equal terms, but I think even he wouldn't be very happy to have won like this.

“I am sad that Marquez acted as bodyguard for Lorenzo. I had already said on Thursday, I was convinced that they would go to the end [with their plan], I was sure they would have conspired against me, as happened in football [Rossi has referred to the infamous so-called ‘Nordic fix’ match when Sweden and Denmark allegedly conspired to knock Italy out of Euro 2004].

“I don't know if Marquez protected Lorenzo because they are both Spanish, but it's sad he chose to be his bodyguard. Lorenzo has never done what Marquez did. But for his behaviour after Malaysia [when he attempted to join the court proceedings], he deserves to be treated like Marquez.

“I'm sad, a great opportunity has vanished and I did not deserve this.”

What a miserable piece of .....





What a pesa .... this clown is. He started this .... & it all backed fired in his face. Personally what happened today, I think is the doing of Honda & not Marc. He seems to forget he is not liked by any parts of HRC. He is toxic & the only brand that will put up with him is yamaha. David Emmett did state recently his ........ had already started tension in the yamaha team prior to PI.
 
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Nonsense. They were Italian Rossi fans. They travelled with many to the track to pull of this crap. Disgusting. It just shows what kind of people they are. The are perverting motorsport with their hooligan behavior.

The data doesn't matter. Even if the data would consist of a sample of Rossi's DNA that under the microscope says "I kicked Marquez on purpose", Rossi fans will just keep saying that Rossi didn't kick. The only thing I need to see is the videos. He crashed Marquez on purpose. To me he clearly kicks him, but even without the kick Rossi should have been blackflagged because he clearly crashed Marquez on purpose. And all the rest are just stories to avoid the only thing that really matters ... Rossi should have been blackflagged.


Do you think Rossi will help Petrucci, Ianone or Dovisioso next year for making him pass so easily this race ?


Lorenzo is the most succesful Spanish driver of all times. You really think he will lack Spanish sponsors ?

Rossi is forgetting Dani could not pass Lorenzo too. Didn’t he think Dani could run faster? He did try to overtake MM, but he seemed to settle with third with just one try. Rossi is such a moaner.

Funny how this site targets VR fans, but look at the 2 knitwits above me:spin:
so this is my cue to check out.

At least VR fans are quite intelligent and understand the sport. Yet people here call them 'boppers'.
 
I like that Dani came on strong at the end of the race, but the way he backed off after MM fought back makes me doubt Dani's title chances in 2016. Dani just doesn't have enough of a fighting spirit. He will never be the #1 Repsol rider if he lets MM bully him. Iannone and Rossi are the only riders that will fight with MM, Dani is too nice.
 
Funny how this site targets VR fans, but look at the 2 knitwits above me:spin:
so this is my cue to check out.

At least VR fans are quite intelligent and understand the sport. Yet people here call them 'boppers'.
I don't see anything intelligent in your post, but keep fooling yourself if it makes you feel better :D
 
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