MotoGP: 2015 round 18 - Valencia (SPOILERS)

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paparazzo said:
Not really,

For example, I think you're a ....... .....

Can I prove you're a ....?

Obviously I can't, but I still believe you're a ....... ..... :D
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Oh that's fine, think whatever you want.

But point is all you have is your belief at the end of the day.

No proof or evidence at all.

Which is sort of like you claiming MM could have passed JL.

All you will have is your belief...and your tears.
 
JPSLotus said:
No proof MM helped Lorenzo.
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Since when have Rossi fans needed proof? They say something, it's fact..end of.

MigsAngel said:
Winning the most races in a season makes one the worthy champion?
Interesting.... What about winning the least races in a season vs your rivals....does that make one a unworthy champion?
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Pull your head out of your arse migs. JPS never said that. He said Lorenzo has won more races than anyone and I agree that makes him a worthy champion. Rossi lost his claim to being worthy of the championship at Turn 14 on Lap 7 in Sepang.

paparazzo said:
Figured you couldn't cause you're full of ..... You also can't answer because MM has never been 2nd an entire race without a pass attempt. GTFO
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Haha, is GTFO all you can say?

goatf4n said:
The problem with ..... like you are you're unable to understand what really goes on the track, it was clear MM was impeding Rossi until he booted him off the track, which may i add Rossi was wrong to and inexcusable and punishable. But to watch MM do it again today. Not how i would like to win it.
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And you know this how? JPS might work in MotoGP for all you know. Is it 'fact' because you believe it so?

propagandhi said:
Sorry,busy jerking off right now.
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Hahaha

propagandhi said:
Another candidate for post of the year.

Sir, I salute your ability to bring up the facts.

I'm honestly having a happiness boner.
Ask sparrows , she's seen it
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Agreed, notice how in the 3 pages since, no one has addressed this issue because they can't :)

RedRob said:
You are a nob and In fact the one that makes no sense.
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Takes one to know one. Welcome!

Kartik46 said:
It must be so ....... hard not to overtake someone who is going wide(almost every turn).also not let pedrosa let through.also will not overtake JL even with a much better pace. The kick was well deserved(if it actually was a kick).
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Lorenzo went wide almost every turn? We were watching a different race. Unless you can present video evidence otherwise?


paparazzo said:
So just because a rider has tons of passionate fans means the rubes on this site should hate that rider and his fans. Makes perfect sense.
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No, it's people like you, who are Rossi fanatics even in the case of his wrongdoings even in light of clear evidence otherwise
 
I KNEW this place would be good for a laugh after the race in JLo won.

VAMOS JORGE!!
 
JPSLotus said:
Kesh problem is once Rossi ran his mouth at Sepang, MM was never going to get a fair shake from anyone.

And as seen, he's still not.

It's Kangaroo Court ........ at it's finest.

He's the perfect target for Rossi bopper fans who are unable to see that if Rossi had the speed, he would have won the title without too much effort. Instead he was a guy who vaulted to the title lead through a combination of luck and circumstances up till Sepang.

What the Custard Crew can't process is that had it been anyone OTHER than VR, they likely get a race ban over Sepang's incident. VR was allowed to race in Valencia when there was NO precedent to support such an action. He was afforded something Jorge Lorenzo was not in 2005. He was afforded a lenient penalty that prevented him from starting from a much more damaging pit lane.

VR did as much to lose the title himself. No one needed to help him along to that conclusion as he helped himself along to it.
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What would have been unjust was for Rossi to have won the title by 3 points or less. Jorge's crash at Misano, slowness in some of the early season races, and relative lack of competitiveness in the wet races are all his problem and not Valentino's, but similarly Valentino getting well behind Jorge early in races and relying on coming through the field is entirely his own problem. Had he been able to get in front and stay in front of Jorge at PI and Sepang (he got in front of him at the latter) MM would have been irrelevant whatever motives he may have had.
 
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JPSLotus said:
Oh that's fine, think whatever you want.

But point is all you have is your belief at the end of the day.

No proof or evidence at all.

Which is sort of like you claiming MM could have passed JL.

All you will have is your belief...and your tears.
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What we are saying is that he did not even try....
That is proven..
And since it has never happened before, the logical conclusion is:
he had an agenda which was not finishing the race at the best position possible.
 
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Here's the thing for you Rossi boppers.

I'm giving you guys every last bit of .... that you gave non-Rossi fans for over a decade right now.

You deserve every last bit of it. The insufferable behavior directed at any rider who dared challenge your false idol, and the vitriol given to those riders for no reason other than either Rossi insinuated they did something or that they won instead of VR was ....... DISGUSTING.

The behavior in the aftermath of Sepang took things to a low that I thought couldn't be surpassed during the time Stoner was riding.

Maybe MM protected JL, maybe he didn't. As I said, only one person knows for sure, and that's MM.

But it would certainly be a karmic payback to Rossi and his fans for everything.
 
paparazzo said:
So just because a rider has tons of passionate fans means the rubes on this site should hate that rider and his fans. Makes perfect sense.
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I was referring to the specific post and poster. There are many who are fans of both Rossi and the sport. I do totally reject the notion that he should win because he has so many fans or because it would be "good for the sport" though. You and he should as well, because that would actually de-legitimise his tremendous career achievements, to which finishing narrowly second at his age and against this current competition only adds if the recent shenanigans are overlooked.

There are quite a few who are fans of Rossi alone and don't understand the sport though.
 
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JPSLotus said:
Here's the thing for you Rossi boppers.

I'm giving you guys every last bit of .... that you gave non-Rossi fans for over a decade right now.

You deserve every last bit of it. The insufferable behavior directed at any rider who dared challenge your false idol, and the vitriol given to those riders for no reason other than either Rossi insinuated they did something or that they won instead of VR was ....... DISGUSTING.

The behavior in the aftermath of Sepang took things to a low that I thought couldn't be surpassed during the time Stoner was riding.

Maybe MM protected JL, maybe he didn't. As I said, only one person knows for sure, and that's MM.

But it would certainly be a karmic payback to Rossi and his fans for everything.
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With MM's ego, I would not be surprised if he tells it himself in the near future. I hope that when he does, you will disappear into oblivion in shame.
 
michaelm said:
What would have been unjust was for Rossi to have won the title by 3 points or less. Jorge's crash at Misano, slowness in some of the early season races, and and relative lack of competitiveness in the wet races are all his problem and not Valentino's, but similarly Valentino getting well behind Jorge early in races and relying on coming through the field is entirely his own problem. Had he been able to get in front and stay in front of Jorge at PI and Sepang (he got in front of him at the latter) MM would have been irrelevant whatever motives he may have had.
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Well said Michael.

VR certainly did not help himself towards the end of the season.

Had he been able to, the narrative of Valencia far different going in, than what it actually was.
 
Evolution said:
What we are saying is that he did not even try....
That is proven..
And since it has never happened before, the logical conclusion is:
he had an agenda which was not finishing the race at the best position possible.
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It isn't proven bud...
 
JPSLotus said:
Kesh problem is once Rossi ran his mouth at Sepang, MM was never going to get a fair shake from anyone.

And as seen, he's still not.

It's Kangaroo Court ........ at it's finest.

He's the perfect target for Rossi bopper fans who are unable to see that if Rossi had the speed, he would have won the title without too much effort. Instead he was a guy who vaulted to the title lead through a combination of luck and circumstances up till Sepang.

What the Custard Crew can't process is that had it been anyone OTHER than VR, they likely get a race ban over Sepang's incident. VR was allowed to race in Valencia when there was NO precedent to support such an action. He was afforded something Jorge Lorenzo was not in 2005. He was afforded a lenient penalty that prevented him from starting from a much more damaging pit lane.

VR did as much to lose the title himself. No one needed to help him along to that conclusion as he helped himself along to it.
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JP - 100% in agreement. Rossi did it to himself. It wasn't his riding that lost him the championship. It was his hubris and his big mouth; he bought into the fan generated legend of his ability to play mind games. I think a younger Rossi would have handled it better. If he'd had humility and not jumped into the Ducati debacle - he'd have had a legit 10th championship by now. This year will go down as one of the greatest ....-ups in the history of the sport.
 
JPSLotus said:
Here's the thing for you Rossi boppers.

I'm giving you guys every last bit of .... that you gave non-Rossi fans for over a decade right now.

You deserve every last bit of it. The insufferable behavior directed at any rider who dared challenge your false idol, and the vitriol given to those riders for no reason other than either Rossi insinuated they did something or that they won instead of VR was ....... DISGUSTING.

The behavior in the aftermath of Sepang took things to a low that I thought couldn't be surpassed during the time Stoner was riding.

Maybe MM protected JL, maybe he didn't. As I said, only one person knows for sure, and that's MM.

But it would certainly be a karmic payback to Rossi and his fans for everything.
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This race just proves the suspicions were 100% correct.

Stoner-Rossi was kids go-kart race compared to MM-VR in Sepang, 14 passes, 9 on 1 lap alone, and this for 3rd place 4 laps into a 22 lap race. Please don't try and compare and use Stoner's whining as a reason to hate VR. The cynic in me even thinks he would have torpedo'd him on purpose at some point and this is what VR probably was thinking as well during Sepang.

Oh, an please remind everyone here again how many championships he's won? While you're at it, how many races has he won? And also please post how many championships you've won, your number of race wins?
 

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