MotoGP: 2015 round 18 - Valencia (SPOILERS)

Gerhardvdm28 · Nov 8, 2015

Rossi is the world champion for 2015!! The FIM did exactly to Rossi what they did to Senna in Formula 1, forcing him to bend over so they could have their way. Marques and Lorenzo are brothers from the same mother of the night. The only reason Lorenzo became champion is because he promised Marques sucksion delights if he keeps Pedrosa and Rossi away from him! So Rossi is still the greatest and Marques and Lorenzo are half brother inbreds!!

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MigsAngel · Nov 8, 2015

Keshav said:
Well - no matter if anyone is happy or unhappy with the final results it was a great race. Rossi rode beautifully. That pass on Espargaro was a work of art. Lorenzo rode his usual clockwork race and kept the lead start to finish. And Dani was ....... brilliant! MM never gave a hint of trying to pass Lorenzo and will have gained himself even more fan hate than ever. Wouldn't have thought that possible. Not saying he protected Lorenzo - but millions will be saying it.

MM did look to protect JLo, but that aside...even if Dani had gone past MM and JLo....MM could have stayed beyind JLo, and JLo would still be champion...

Either Way, MM didn't even try to pass JLo at any point in the race....even when he right on back wheel...and looking to have more pace...

Why did MM even try a pass?
And why fight with Dani....at all?

paparazzo · Nov 8, 2015

JPSLotus said:
Again, this is not proof of anything.

This is just your opinion that MM should have passed JL because you WANTED VR to win the title.

Maybe he could have, maybe he couldn't have.

MM is the only one who knows for certain.

But if you want to pretend to be Mike Webb at Sepang --a mind reader-- by all means continue.

I asked you to prove something where facts are available first. You couldn't, then you tell me to prove something that is not provable? I'm going on precedent, I ask you again find me a race in any class where MM does not attempt a pass following any motorcycle less than 2/10ths of a second? I await your response.

jazkat · Nov 8, 2015

levigarrett said:
Perhaps Marc reads the forum and realized he wasn't supposed to involve himself in a championship he was unable to win? Does that sound as reasonable now as it did 2 weeks ago?

I agree that Rossi lost himself that title but still Marc was never gonna overtake lorenzo today, you don't make a charge like that then back off??

But I suppose if rossi did win it would be even more records and thats something the Spanish duo don't want.

Anyway on to next year

michaelm · Nov 8, 2015

Gerhardvdm28 said:
Rossi is the world champion for 2015!! The FIM did exactly to Rossi what they did to Senna in Formula 1, forcing him to bend over so they could have their way. Marques and Lorenzo are brothers from the same mother of the night. The only reason Lorenzo became champion is because he promised Marques sucksion delights if he keeps Pedrosa and Rossi away from him! So Rossi is still the greatest and Marques and Lorenzo are half brother inbreds!!

And you wonder how this "Rossi Haters Forum" arose.

Kartik46 · Nov 8, 2015

xx CURVE xx said:
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Dude. this is happening tonight.[emoji13]

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

Keshav said:
Well - no matter if anyone is happy or unhappy with the final results it was a great race. Rossi rode beautifully. That pass on Espargaro was a work of art. Lorenzo rode his usual clockwork race and kept the lead start to finish. And Dani was ....... brilliant! MM never gave a hint of trying to pass Lorenzo and will have gained himself even more fan hate than ever. Wouldn't have thought that possible. Not saying he protected Lorenzo - but millions will be saying it.

Kesh problem is once Rossi ran his mouth at Sepang, MM was never going to get a fair shake from anyone.

And as seen, he's still not.

It's Kangaroo Court ........ at it's finest.

He's the perfect target for Rossi bopper fans who are unable to see that if Rossi had the speed, he would have won the title without too much effort. Instead he was a guy who vaulted to the title lead through a combination of luck and circumstances up till Sepang.

What the Custard Crew can't process is that had it been anyone OTHER than VR, they likely get a race ban over Sepang's incident. VR was allowed to race in Valencia when there was NO precedent to support such an action. He was afforded something Jorge Lorenzo was not in 2005. He was afforded a lenient penalty that prevented him from starting from a much more damaging pit lane.

VR did as much to lose the title himself. No one needed to help him along to that conclusion as he helped himself along to it.

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

paparazzo said:
I asked you to prove something where facts are available first. You couldn't, then you tell me to prove something that is not provable? I'm going on precedent, I ask you again find me a race in any class where MM does not attempt a pass following any motorcycle less than 2/10ths of a second? I await your response.

The absence of something occurring does not make the inverse belief true.

Logical failure at its finest.

AntG · Nov 8, 2015

MigsAngel · Nov 8, 2015

p4p1 said:
Didn't winning less races than your rival in 2006 make you an unworthy champion?

That is what JPS is saying....any rider not winning the races in a season, and still being champion is not worthy according the JPS logic.....

Gerhardvdm28 · Nov 8, 2015

Luckily Casey Stoner saw the light and moved on to who knows what, Marques and Lorenzo should join him....

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

MigsAngel said:
That is what JPS is saying....any rider not winning the races in a season, and still being champion is not worthy according the JPS logic.....

Never said that Migs.

.... off with your straw man .........

paparazzo · Nov 8, 2015

michaelm said:
And you wonder how this "Rossi Haters Forum" arose.

So just because a rider has tons of passionate fans means the rubes on this site should hate that rider and his fans. Makes perfect sense.

Mr. Shupe · Nov 8, 2015

paparazzo said:
He could have made an attempt. This is all I'm saying. I repeat, find me any race from MM following in 2nd place less than half a second behind the leader and not attempt a pass for the whole race? VR was right all along. GTFO

This doesn't prove Rossi was right the whole time. If Marquez did ride to help Lorenzo today, maybe he just decided to do it in the wake of the Sepang incident (and whatever VR may have said to him in that closed door meeting)?

What a bummer of an ending to an otherwise great season. Both sides of the big dispute had elements that were plausible and deniable. Nobody knows what actually happened. What we do know is Rossi planted the seeds of doubt at that press conference in Sepang, ruining it for us fans, with his self-flattering explanation of MM's motives.

Thanks Doctor. Your destiny was in your hands the whole time anyway, if you could have out-ridden the supposed saboteur. Thanks a lot...

Jumkie · Nov 8, 2015

I'd like to congratulate the World Champion.....

.....Hector Barbara!

Kartik46 · Nov 8, 2015

MigsAngel said:
MM did look to protect JLo, but that aside...even if Dani had gone past MM and JLo....MM could have stayed beyind JLo, and JLo would still be champion...

Either Way, MM didn't even try to pass JLo at any point in the race....even when he right on back wheel...and looking to have more pace...

Why did MM even try a pass?
And why fight with Dani....at all?

He did not try to pass JL but as soon pedrosa overtakes......

paparazzo · Nov 8, 2015

JPSLotus said:
The absence of something occurring does not make the inverse belief true.

Logical failure at its finest.

Not really,

For example, I think you're a ....... .....

Can I prove you're a ....?

Obviously I can't, but I still believe you're a ....... .....

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

paparazzo said:
So just because a rider has tons of passionate fans means the rubes on this site should hate that rider and his fans. Makes perfect sense.

lol passionate fans who were trying to pay off other riders to take Lorenzo out.

Right.

His fans at large are a bunch of degenerates save for a select few I personally know who aren't into the cult of personality .....

I don't like Rossi for a number of reasons, all of which are documented incidents.

"It's racing Casey."

Mr. Shupe · Nov 8, 2015

yzthumpa said:
At least the events of the past few races settles one issue - Rossi doesn't receive favors from Dorna. If nothing else, it "legitimizes" Rossi's other few dozen titles.

It doesn't explain away Rossi getting Bridgestones years ago after they said they didn't want to supply anyone else...and Lorenzo didn't get them...

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