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Well if Lorenzo was injured and out for the season, then Dani would be back asap and start clawing back the points asap.
I agree...all of us enjoyed it i don't know why every1 is complaining. If you didn't enjoy it then watch formula 1.
We've all been wishing for excitement like this all season and the minute it comes there has to be controversy. We should all be thankful that finally we had a race where we were at the edge of our seat this season.
Bottom line: As i said b4: It takes two to battle, if Jorge didn't want it then he should have just held back. We can't blame Rossi for wanting to finish in 3rd
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Really guys make a thread dedicated to hating on the guy, where you can all give each other a pat on the back.
Face it boys your in a minority....that must really do your nut in.
Man if rossi acheives anything in red, some of this will be so fun to revert back to.
That's like thinking a sheep herder is put out by not being a sheep.
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Maybe. Certainly Rossi did not get any advantage out of that "cutting" by 2 (two) centimeters in the sand... But I can see that here we are interpreting the rules in a very formal way, ignoring the real reason of their existence (which is that by cutting you create a more advantageous line for yourself). Moreover, he did not pass Stoner by cutting -- he hit the sand when the pass was already initiated.
Rossi's detractors now are busy trying to find fault with him in any way -- like the Spanish press, that now is bringing up an imaginary "jump start" at Motegi. I saw the clip, he just moves his body, not the bike -- and again, anyway, certainly he did not get any advantage from doing that, on the contrary he spoilt his start completely.
All this reminds me also of that time Rossi had to start last at Qatar because Gibernau had complained about his team "rubberizing" his start position for the race. He then crashed in the race trying to return to the front. Rossi was so pissed for that episode. that Gibernau never won another GP again.
That is so absurd it was funny. You need some new yellow glasses, the ones you are wearing now are way past distorted.
69 points gap with 4 races and a broken collarbone would be highly unlikely.
Stoner is now going well, rossi has pace, and dovi didnt exactly have a bad race either......would be very, very difficult for dani to get much when fresh back from injury.
Its in the bag now, and its already reported that dani will miss sepang.
so make that 69 points in 3 races. Two wins and a second place? Yeah like thats going to happen.
Even with jorge hypothetically out injured from this point.
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nobody ever said anything about stoners pass at sachsenring because it was just good racing ,no unnecessary brawling across the track.
don't get me wrong i enjoyed motegi and i'm always delighted to see a good battle, rossi didn't even live up to my expectations and just shove lorenzo off the track but that was almost a clean pass :-O
the thing is just that you don't spread BS about "i'm doing everything i can to help yamaha" and then nearly taking their man out.
there was this other guy who took out his teammate and that nearly cost him the championship and everybody hates that midget...double standards?
really its the same thing again and again : someone arrives in the paddock and eventually gets good enough to challange or even beat rossi and automatically becomes the bad guy which makes it impossible for rossi fans to have clear view of what is going on. it's like debating evolution with right wing christians. it's not that they are bad people. it's just that their heads are filled with....
if rossi was the one that didn't race as wreckless as others everybody would whine and moan about lorenzo being too brutal on the track and take rossis side.
screw it ,this is getting exhausting
First of all, I meant the battle between Rossi and Stoner was Also for a 3th place and podium that since last sunday has lost it's worth, especially for those who wish the whole year that their favorite rider climb the podium even once.
and about your point, i think the same, if Horhay had won the battle Rossi hater's would have found it a very fair result. just like if Rossi was hunting for the championship, all the hater's would have found it a very silly idea that his team mate had to support him and finish behind him. there are at least 2 sides to all these story's.
I dont remember anyone of these people who are now so worry for Yamaha championships, had any care at all last years when Rossi was clinching the titles. back then they wanted to see fights between team mates untill last gp, So why suddenly theyr become so worry for Yamaha? are they Horhay supporter's? Mostly not. Are they Yamaha supporter's? No way. Are they Rossi hater's? Mostly are.
So you are a sheep herder then? Ahahahahaha please its too much lollllllll
Yay lets have a quote off!!!
In terms of the rossi hate i think this is an obvious quote:
"Familiarity breeds contempt"
And in terms of some of the posts on this thread:
Will Rogers: "After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him". The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.
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Behave!! F1 has been brilliant this year, and i think it's been a far more exciting season than Motogp, even though the wrong team is winning!!!
well, it's true, anything can happen in racing. it is a dangerous sport after all.
but, there is also, a relatively small chance, of having such an injury.
and even if it had happened, it would still be very difficult for dani to win.
so, i'd prefer racing like that, even with that higher risk level, than having safe and boring races
i mean, we have one or two races like that every season. i'd like more.
Ok Tom, now I've been through the tread and nowhere do I find where you say that Yamaha was right in going public with the critics of Rossi.
And all your opinions of the matter are based on your own interpretation of what happened, namely that Rossi were the one taking the the risks. They do follow the same line as Yamaha's conclusions at race day, I'll give you that, but two wrong doesn't make one right. Lorenzo was wrong in going into the battle and he made more subtle but no less effective blocking moves, and those were the ones leading into the dangerous touches. Rossi wouldn't accept it and thank good for that.
Mind you, I don't criticize JLo here. As I said before I even give him credit for risking it all in a battle for third, but it wasn't the smartest move. That came out wrong. A give him credit for his competetivness. It's the thing that has kept Rossi on the top for so long. JLo are showing some similar peronality, that's good. There and then it was not good, but in the long run it will serve him well even if it might cause a trip or two into the gravel.
But what Yamaha did was just plain wrong. They picked on the wrong man and they went public. BLARGHH.
I wondered how long it would be....
Ok then......56 points over 3 races.
2 second places and a 3rd, 2 wins a 10th, 1 win 1 second and a 5th?
Dani will almost cetainly not be on the podium his first race back.
But this is massive straw clutching as we are talking hypothetically, and even talking this way its a non argument as you are having to look at extreme what ifs.
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You didnt wonder ...., you didnt know. Just like you dont know that there is 4 races left, not 3.
With 4 races and Lorenzo out for the season courtesy of his teammate, how impossible does this sound. Dani picks up 4 3rd place finishes and wins the title. Dovi would not be a factor, the team would not allow it, nor would any other Honda. That leaves who to take points away from Pedrosa, certainly not Rossi, he would leave on purpose to cost Yamaha the title. Remember what you say bops, Rossi dont owe them ...., right. Even with a bum shoulder, it is VERY possible for Dani to garner 3rd place finishes. Now MAYBE you guys are starting to get the picture
lol......someone hasnt been reading properly!!!!!
Failed on two count my old mucker, failing to see i was taking the piss with my first sentence, and absolutely failed to read whats right in front of your eyes only a couple of posts back.
Let me enlighten you:
"Its in the bag now, and its already reported that dani will miss sepang."
With pedrosa already being diagnosed with a double collarbone break in practise.....it makes all the news that yamaha were worried for the title during the race even more far fetched, and pretty much proves in my eyes that its more likely just the aftermath of a massive whine fest....in spanish.
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IF so, that's because he can, and i dont think he has been the only rider who has ever used such a help. and again i dont think that will make him Oblige to support Horhay, if he doesn't want. Name a few of those times that Edwards was ordered to stay behind him, I remember Edwards and Rossi raced in Laguna, and Edwards finished in front, when Rossi needed those points much more than Horhay right now. I remember in 13th round of 2003 Japan, Rossi was at 2nd position behind Biaggi, and ran wide, he lost some 9 seconds and felt behind Gibernou, Hayden (his team mate at that time), and Tamada (i think), he coverd the gap (at least 6 or 7 seconds) to those 3, and overtook them (especially Hayden), and he finished 2nd. so Maybe Hayden didn't want to listen to team orders and Edwards wanted.
Let's wait a little more for these new top gun's to demand for ecpecial treatments. Horhay is doeing it right now.
DANI.....WILL.....MISS.....SEPANG......
ONLY.....3.....RACES....FOR....HIM.....AT.....MOST.
Christ almighty will that one sink in please.....oh and there is talk he will also miss philip island.
Povol you didnt read my post properly, and you made a mistake. I explained why i suggested 3 races were left and you failed to read it....and instead made out it was because "i didnt know".
Now your saying that dani would definately race at sepang with his injury, IF jorge was ruled out over the weekend.
2 more what ifs to add to the list eh?
1, That jorge's hypothetical injury would be bad enough to wreck his season which in all probability it wouldnt be(rossi missed that many races with a leg break).
2. Dani's injury would be manageable enough to just suddenly decide to race at sepang, if he feels like it.....hang on where people not just talking about the importance of health and safety?
