Lorenzos Dad - Simoncelli Comments
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You protesteth too much..............................
Does that mean you are no longer my friend, friend?
Scoring points?? Every debate here is scoring points to a degree if you want to be pedantic.
I have been fully respectful of Simoncelli. How does merely pointing out discrepencies with other posts constitute disrespect. If you want to try hard enough you can be offended by anything .Most of the points I have made have similarly been made by numerous other posters. Rewriting history under the cover of tragedy is poor form. Disrespectful and cowardly. If you cant cope with measured debate without resorting to abuse (the last refuge of the debatingly challenged) that is a shame. I still love you.
PS. As a hermaphrodite, I will with MUCH pleasure accede to your request.
As i said in a previous post, there is a time and a place and this is niether. You chose this time and to use other people's grief and disress to score point's against others for Critisizing stoner for shooting off at the mouth or behaving like a ..... This has nothing to do with the event that befell us last weekend. That did not bother you though, you tried to liken critisizing stoner to the emotional out pouring of simos death. You did this as a vendeta to try and score points even calling people in the rip threads hypocrites.
You in this thread decided to try and excersize some form of vendeter against me without even tying to back up your claims.
In this thread i said Lorenzo snr made an error of judgment in answering the jurnos question at this time. You then went into a rant about me and stoner. Lorenzos dad made an error of judgment but you knew exactly what your motives were. Shame on you !
Yeah and then to go on and say marco was not very intelligent" class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://www.powerslide.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> geez that poster can rank a persons iq by watching him ride on tv.
Wow, I thought you observed MotoGP. I didn't think you were such a shallow observer. It is surprising to me that you would admit on this forum that you are unable to determine if a rider is thinking about their strategy in a race or that perhaps you think all the riders line up on the grid with out one.
I also thought you read MotoMatters where Krop who from my observations knows a .... load more about the sport than you and I and actually sits across from the riders and asks them direct questions as well as doing the same to many paddock insiders. Seeing as though you don't read and or analyse the sport I will bring you up to speed. Krop has stated categorically that Sic is not very intelligent.
So based on the respected opinion of an insider and my observations of racing tactics I think it is a fair assumption that Sic was not overly intelligent and didn't have the mental capacity to win a championship against the greatest riders at the pinnacle of the sport. There is also sufficient precedent to suggest that minor class titles does not automatically conclude that skill and mental capacity is sufficient for premier class success.
I won't even go in to the multitude of conversations about mental games by Rossi and mental fragility of Stoner all of which you have participated in based on observations of a similar nature to observations that created my opinion of Sic. Of course I could be wrong just as you and about 90% of 2008/9/10 observers were about Stoner. So in a nut shell why don't you pull your hypocritical head out of your arse.
Jeez, Roger, can,t you tell when I,m stirring you.?? If I call you a lovable big lug ,thats a clue.................................
Part of what I said.............
"Marco Simoncelli was a brave and bold rider, and was a big part of the show they call motogp, a show that gives me enormous pleasure and takes up a lot of my time following. I will miss him in this wonderfull sport . Please let us remember him properly by treating the remaining riders with a bit more respect and gratitude. "
I had no disrespect for Marco, only trying to draw parallels with previous events. Years earlier, very distasteful comments were made about stoner and his wife. With the current outpouring of emotion and recalibration of fans viewpoints, my comments could only be made at this time, so that there was some chance that they would make sense. Obviously , for some like yourself, this may be bridge too far. Funny how moral outrage can be circuitous and contradictory.
Cheers .
Krop is entitled to his opinion, as he said he met simo about 3 times. You stated it as fact based on someone elses opinion, i think im safe im the assumpton you yourself did not know simo or have ever held a conversation wth him ? You claim he could never be a WC because he wasnt inteligent enough. Who are you to make such judgments ? are you a proffessional racer ? Did you know simo ? No you just shot off at the mouth with no real facts. You said it imo because you like to be contraversial and you like to try and get a rise out of people . My bet is simo was a lot brighter that you and I, after all look what he had achieved in his short life.
Michael, I forgot to tell you that I have sacked you as my advisor.
What you don,t appear to realise is that I am talking about 2007-08, and that is another story that is not complete........
Well personally i have never critisized simo and i challenge you to prove otherwise. I have always called things as i see them. If stoner is being a .... like at Silverstone i will comment, had i thought simo was worthy of a negitive comment i would have also commented but i actually liked his brain out racing, reminded me of the old school. Just because i have been on the side of the people pointing out stoners childish ways does not mean i want him hurt or dead. Perish the thought but if that happened i would be very upset .I would not oppoligse for makeing comments about him before his death. I would also not bring back up old comments out of respect for the dead. I dont want to let you turn this into another stoner thread buit i must say i dont remember reading anybody making distastful remarks about his wife. I also believe the negitive comment's in the past against stoner were for the most part justified and correct. Even some of his fans agreed.
Michael, I forgot to tell you that I have sacked you as my advisor.
What you don,t appear to realise is that I am talking about 2007-08, and that is another story that is not complete........
And this has what to do with simos death or lorenzos dads comments the day before simos funeral ?
Big fail. Go back and read my original post. It is littered with "in my opinion" 'it is my view" "I would suggest". How you could determine that I was stating fact is beyond me. I ALWAYS state in my posts that I am offering my opinion. You ask who am I to make such judgements? Well who are you to make judgements that I am wrong? Who are you to say that your opinion is more correct then mine? I stated clearly what my opinion was based on. You have not stated an opinion nor have you given a reason based on observations as to why I am wrong and you are right. You than hypocritically make a judgement on my intelligence and success based of an anonymous internet persona.
Controversial is in the opinion of the reader. I do not mostly make comments to get a rise but I will admit form time to time I do, am I unique? You may not agree with my view but I would challenge you to find posts of mine that are not thought out, explained and then offered as opinion.
Once again I will say that you are hypocritical in that you have participated in speculation about Rossi and Stoner's mental fortitudes with no more facts than those that I have used yet attempt to deny me the right to do the same.
Now outline to me why you think that Sic had the mental capacity to win a MotoGP WC as I am interested in your considered opinion rather than your ill considered and incorrect interpretation of mine.
jeez what with the html?
I have not claimed anything about his mental capacity, that was you !
You,re a lucky fellow Rog. I don,t believe you regarding your innocence over previous posts, but I just started to do a search for your posts back to 2007, and guess what? The search only goes back 1 year, so you are off the hook. Just your lucky day.
(I wonder if there is any way of going back further??)
Fraid so.........................
And that has what to do with this thread or the thead i posted a link too ? What has casey stoner or his wife got to do with Lorenzo's dads press comments or the fall out of Marco Simonchelli passing ? What point exactly are you trying to prove ?
I thought I had pretty well laid it all out. Please don,t make me say it all over again and then tell me to repeat my hermaphroditic activities................Please. Well maybe.................
C,mon Rog, you know what i am saying, don,t go funny on me................
Michael, I forgot to tell you that I have sacked you as my advisor.
What you don,t appear to realise is that I am talking about 2007-08, and that is another story that is not complete........
You guys just won't let go. Who cares what was said about stoner in 2007 and 2008, and how is it relevant to this thread? I don't care, and I am an avowed stoner fan who posted in his defence during all that time. Move on. It is boring to harp on about it apart from anything else, and to make any connection between past criticism of him and current events is a logical fallacy akin to Godwin's law.
Anything said about any lack of talent or mental strength has been conclusively disproven. If roger or others choose to continue to dislike his personality that is a free choice to which they are entitled, and is also something which I don't personally care about.
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WOW - now we're concerned with keeping threads on topic? When did this start on PS?
Well, I care. And if you feel that you have done your job fighting the good fight then well and good, but there is a certain arrogance developing in that you have developed all the ideas to your satisfaction and that that therefore precludes anybody else developing their own lines of thought. Just because you post 10 to every one of mine, doesn,t make you the forum nanny and is strong evidence that you have had more than enough turns to say what you want. If you have had enough, don,t read what I say and don,t respond any more. You have that choice. I hope you allow me the choice to post.................I would be very grateful if you did.
As I stated previously, the circumstances right now create an environment where certain truths can finally sink into the consciousness of many here, whereas previously people had the lack of imagination to be able to comprehend these concepts adequately. I may reach the finality that you have obviously achieved to your satisfaction a while ago. I wish I had your tranquil satisfaction.
