Lorenzo to confirm 2010 plans next week.MotoGp.com

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gixxer K9 @ Aug 23 2009, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its probably the Ducati that has made Casey sick. No one can ride it, and it takes so much energy to it hes been over riding it for nearly 3 years.
And here I thought the bike was remote control ridden.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>(Gixxer K9 @ Aug 23 2009, 03:58 PM)
Its probably the Ducati that has made Casey sick. No one can ride it, and it takes so much energy to it hes been over riding it for nearly 3 years.

im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 23 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??

Oh man... why do we have to Rog?

So on with it... lack of development?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 23 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??


Rog, as you would have noticed, I have stayed relatively quiet on any 'cause' of Casey's illness and also on the development front with my general comment always being that Stoner's responsibility has always been to develop a bike that he can ride well and fast (as with all riders who lead development). Should another rider be able to ride that machine that is a bonus or it is up to the rider to change their style, some do and can, some cant.

But, my theory for teh situation does follow your thought patterns (I am sure no surprise there) and yes, my suspicion is that CS has been affected by the path taken by Ducati.

The first thing that really struck me was that the issues really started surfacing for the public to see at Catalunya where it was said that both Yamaha and Ducati had upgraded electronics packages and where the Yamaha's did run away somewhat. This was the first time it was seen but made me wonder when it actually started and was there a trigger as we all know, it has been a big fast downhill slide since.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Aug 24 2009, 03:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh man... why do we have to Rog?

So on with it... lack of development?


V, I don't see Rog saying lack of development, but more the direction of that development and it is a valid point (for any manufacturer) as following an incorrect path, no matter how minute coould make the end result a catastrophic failure or a wonderous success.

I actually don't see Rog's comments as a Stoner thing bu ta Ducati point (correct me by all means Rog) and it is valid and aligns to comments made by Rossi as to why he did not go to Ducati.








Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 24 2009, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rog, as you would have noticed, I have stayed relatively quiet on any 'cause' of Casey's illness and also on the development front with my general comment always being that Stoner's responsibility has always been to develop a bike that he can ride well and fast (as with all riders who lead development). Should another rider be able to ride that machine that is a bonus or it is up to the rider to change their style, some do and can, some cant.

But, my theory for teh situation does follow your thought patterns (I am sure no surprise there) and yes, my suspicion is that CS has been affected by the path taken by Ducati.

The first thing that really struck me was that the issues really started surfacing for the public to see at Catalunya where it was said that both Yamaha and Ducati had upgraded electronics packages and where the Yamaha's did run away somewhat. This was the first time it was seen but made me wonder when it actually started and was there a trigger as we all know, it has been a big fast downhill slide since.





V, I don't see Rog saying lack of development, but more the direction of that development and it is a valid point (for any manufacturer) as following an incorrect path, no matter how minute coould make the end result a catastrophic failure or a wonderous success.

I actually don't see Rog's comments as a Stoner thing bu ta Ducati point (correct me by all means Rog) and it is valid and aligns to comments made by Rossi as to why he did not go to Ducati.








Garry
no your quite rite gaz. the way i see it is ducati lost there way as far as development once capi left. Mabe thats why suppo wanted him to stay ,so much so he was prepaired to field a third bike. It was the bike capi helped develop that stoner handed every one there ... on. But now ducati are interested in trying very prototype stuff like carbon frame / swingarm plus revised electronics. That is a lot to develop and make sense of for any rider let alone one of stoners experience. I say that in comparason to capi's experience. I respect ducati for trying new stuff but dont think it was there best direction at this time and with the riders they have to develop it. This is proved by a bike that has clearly lost its edge and there #1 rider suffering from the fatigue of a man twice his age.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 24 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??






you are as smart as Curve Rog. !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Aug 24 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>


you are as smart as Curve Rog. !
Another insiteful fact filled post by sookiemachine

so whats your take on it then ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Aug 24 2009, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>


you are as smart as Curve Rog. !
I dunno, but I'm thinkin' that's a compliment Rog...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Aug 24 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dunno, but I'm thinkin' that's a compliment Rog...
Thats exactly how i took it mate

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 24 2009, 07:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And here I thought the bike was remote control ridden.

Jumkie.. im sure alot of people must think that Xasey just sits on the bike and its Remote controlled from the boys back at Bologna..

here is the best move that would benefit ducati.

kick hayden out. sign up lorenzo and spies

ducati wins 2010 constructors title. and 1st and 2nd goes to either lorenzo or spies.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 24 2009, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??

Chopperman.. i reckon theres alot of truth in that. Ducati seem to think its there Engineering Genius that brought them all the wins that they have had since 07. Dont get me wrong Ducati have some very smart people there, but since mid 08 the Yamaha has been the best bike in my opinion.

I beleive that since then they have tried to introduce new technology (Carbon Swingarm) and its gone backwards since then. I also think that Nicky is one of the best Development riders there is, and you can see the Ducati starting to get a bit more ridable, i think Ducati should give Nicky another year or 2 to give him a chance to develop the bike. some ppl may not agree but i think the reason the Honda is so usable, is thanks to Hayden, i think Danny is fast but he cant develop a bike.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 24 2009, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im going to stick my neck out here and say the duc became un ridable or more stressful to ride after capi left the team. Was it because of the lack of capis development experience or because ducati started toying with new un tryed things lie carbon frames and swingarms ??

you are right and i am a biased lovin ducati whore. however that might change depending on the wsbk results actually. no it won't, haga has been injured hence the ...... results. the ducati is fine. the lady-boys just love to complain all the time. rog ur not a trannie, ur a man with hairy nuts. everyone else who complains about the ducati though has under gone ... change surgery

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Aug 24 2009, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rog ur not a trannie, ur a man with hairy nuts.
Disturbing to say the least.

There is only one way you would know this.....!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 25 2009, 04:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Disturbing to say the least.

There is only one way you would know this.....!

Jumkie, the more I read your replies the more I start to think you are a chick who lacks male gentiles structural and appearance knowledge or love buying a pound a cucumbers everyday at the market and then end up eating the rest when you're done anal play. And no, I'm not ..., nor do I have a thing for your sugar daddy Rog. I think you type all those posts of yours with your right hand while your left thumb is up your bum, cause you'de rather have the strangers FIST up your butt than yours you sick . Have yours though would still make you sick you swine.

The fact is every man has hairy nuts. I was implying Rog is a man, hence the hairy nutsack u shitsack. I wasn't implying hairy nuts make a man.


Now can we please move on before Austin,povol & all the other smart ..... imply something ....

Lorenzo confirm one year extension of Yamaha contract!!!

from www.autosport.com

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The Yamaha MotoGP team has confirmed Jorge Lorenzo for the 2010 season after signing a one-year contract extension with the Spaniard.

The former 250cc world champion had been rumoured to be ready to leave the team for Ducati in recent weeks, but Tuesday's announcement put an end to the speculation.

Lorenzo, currently second in the championship, will remain as Valentino Rossi's team-mate next season.

"I am very happy," said Lorenzo. "Today is a good day because I have decided to remain with the Yamaha Factory Team in 2010.

"It was a very important decision and that's why I have had to take the last few weeks to make it, but I think that this is the best decision for me in this moment.

"I want to thank Yamaha because they have always done everything that they have promised, and I especially would like to say thank you to Lin Jarvis and Masao Furusawa."

Team boss Lin Jarvis added: "We are obviously delighted that Jorge has decided to stay at Yamaha for the next season and we hope that he will remain at Yamaha for many years to come. Jorge has shown his talent, his ability to learn and to compete at the highest level with many excellent performances in 2008 and 2009.

"We have no doubt that he has the ability and drive to become MotoGP World Champion and we are proud that he has decided to remain with Yamaha, despite having received some very serious approaches from some of our competitors.

"This timely decision now allows us to focus on the present championship, where our riders are currently first and second, and to make definitive plans for our 2010 MotoGP program."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Aug 25 2009, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jumkie, the more I read your replies the more I start to think you are a chick who lacks male gentiles structural and appearance knowledge or love buying a pound a cucumbers everyday at the market and then end up eating the rest when you're done anal play. And no, I'm not ..., nor do I have a thing for your sugar daddy Rog. I think you type all those posts of yours with your right hand while your left thumb is up your bum, cause you'de rather have the strangers FIST up your butt than yours you sick . Have yours though would still make you sick you swine.

The fact is every man has hairy nuts. I was implying Rog is a man, hence the hairy nutsack u shitsack. I wasn't implying hairy nuts make a man.


Now can we please move on before Austin,povol & all the other smart ..... imply something ....
It rockgod you got to watch out for, he has the forum gaydar

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 25 2009, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> It rockgod you got to watch out for, he has the forum gaydar
YEsth and it is YOU who my gaydar is focusthed on! hmmmummummm. yummy!!!

After all this who has the upper hand Ducati or Stoner? I see this as a huge slap in the face to Stoner IMO. They are going to pay an unproven rider in MOTOGP twice as much as Stoner who has shown he can win a championship. Somthing is still very wrong with this picture. Does Ducati just stab it's riders in the back when they are down?

I think Lorenzo made the correct choice. The risk of going to Ducati is huge compared to the money. Noway he could develop the bike in a different direction next year. He will be given whatevr the Engineers (and Hayden tweaks) pushed for in 2010. Then tasked to go out and defeat Rossi on an ever improving bike. He would be defeated 2010 and hopefully competitive in'11