Lorenzo to confirm 2010 plans next week.MotoGp.com

Pigeon · Aug 21, 2009

we'll see the saga continues

Lorenzo to confirm 2010 plans next week

Friday, 21 August 2009
The rider’s manager states ‘now is the right moment to make a decision’.

MotoGP star Jorge Lorenzo could make an announcement on his future at next week’s Red Bull Indianapolis Grand Prix,
if not before, with a confirmed offer from Ducati and a renewed deal from Yamaha on the table.

According to his manager and representative, Marcos Hirsch, who spoke to motogp.com on Friday (21st August)
Lorenzo and his advisors are now considering the two options, with a move onto Honda machinery already ruled out.

Hirsch commented, “Until the middle of this week we were still ticking off the boxes and finalising the offers.
We are getting close to concluding our evaluation of the pros and cons of the offers
and we acknowledge that now is the right moment to make a decision.”

Without hinting as to what the final decision will be Hirsch also stated that confirmation could come next weekend
at Indy, with the announcement made by the relevant team. The rider’s manager added that sporting factors would be
the key to the decision, commenting, “money is important but it is at the bottom of our list of priorities.”

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Keshav · Aug 21, 2009

I'd hate to be Lorenzo just now. The pressure must be huge. In a sense,
he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

If he goes to Ducati
he will be under pressure to tame the beast and show he's that much
better than Melandri, Capirossi, Hayden etc. His results over the last
two years (despite having the best bike around, haven't borne that out.

If he stays at Yamaha - all his posturing and demands for a bigger
salary - come to naught - will make him seem like an impotent,
self-aggrandizing fool.

chopperman · Aug 21, 2009

Can you just imagine the hatred for lorenzo if he takes the ducati seat at the cost of stoners job. Many here have stated they had done a 180 on lorenzo since his 250 days. some have bayed for rossi fans to hate him because he is challenging him but ive yet to see this. will the stoner fans love him or hate him if he switches ? i know where my money is .

Pigeon · Aug 21, 2009

yeah.and what about Duc's/Marlboro REP

if they just dump a SICK.Guy.

just like that.!!!.

Public Relations.Hmmmmm

Cant see it though.unless Duc know something more about stoner thats not come out yet.and JL does take his seat.

Haystack's position's on tender hooks.imo

VTtwinner · Aug 21, 2009

This is how I think it will shake out. Yamaha is tearing apart the couch right now, looking for loose change. They will counter offer throwing in $1 mil more. This will be enough to keep Lorenzo seated I think. Yamaha doesn't want to see double podiums disappear anytime soon.

michaelm · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 21 2009, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can you just imagine the hatred for lorenzo if he takes the ducati seat at the cost of stoners job. Many here have stated they had done a 180 on lorenzo since his 250 days. some have bayed for rossi fans to hate him because he is challenging him but ive yet to see this. will the stoner fans love him or hate him if he switches ? i know where my money is .
I can't see how lorenzo accepting a job offer made to him which he considers to be in his best interests would upset anyone; we/they might not be all that impressed with ducati though. Even then, unless the subtext some postulate does exist, it would be difficult to even blame ducati when a lead rider however talented has had significant health issues for 2 successive seasons.

I will be upset if their is a revision of history by ducati/marlboro to detract from the contribution stoner has made to them, of which some might think there are early signs. I will be personally a little annoyed but only from a biased fan viewpoint if lorenzo proves better than stoner on the ducati, although I believe the chances of him winning a world championship against rossi are rather small.

clarkjw · Aug 21, 2009

Casey is in breach of contract AFAIK. Ducati and Marlboro can do what they want.

Ngads · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VTtwinner @ Aug 21 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is how I think it will shake out. Yamaha is tearing apart the couch right now, looking for loose change. They will counter offer throwing in $1 mil more. This will be enough to keep Lorenzo seated I think. Yamaha doesn't want to see double podiums disappear anytime soon.

agreed....but money is a huge issue here...it must be hard enough to afford one rossi sized contract, let alone two. I dont think yamaha could afford him to be honest, which is a shame.

chopperman · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Aug 21 2009, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't see how lorenzo accepting a job offer made to him which he considers to be in his best interests would upset anyone; we/they might not be all that impressed with ducati though. Even then, unless the subtext some postulate does exist, it would be difficult to even blame ducati when a lead rider however talented has had significant health issues for 2 successive seasons.

I will be upset if their is a revision of history by ducati/marlboro to detract from the contribution stoner has made to them, of which some might think there are early signs. I will be personally a little annoyed but only from a biased fan viewpoint if lorenzo proves better than stoner on the ducati, although I believe the chances of him winning a world championship against rossi are rather small.
You know my stereotypical stoner fan excludes you and one or 2 others mike and i also know you know who im talking about

where is the gang these days ??

I also believe the chances of Lorenzo winning a championship with ducati while rossi is in the game are very slim indeed. Lorenzo is a guttsy rider tho like rossi when he switched so maybe he will be cavalier enough to switch and it will sure give us arm chair pundits plenty to talk about if he does

chopperman · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Aug 21 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey is in breach of contract AFAIK. Ducati and Marlboro can do what they want.
Im sure there will be an ill health get out clause for both partys.

povol · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 21 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You know my stereotypical stoner fan excludes you and one or 2 others mike and i also know you know who im talking about

where is the gang these days ??

I also believe the chances of Lorenzo winning a championship with ducati while rossi is in the game are very slim indeed. Lorenzo is a guttsy rider tho like rossi when he switched so maybe he will be cavalier enough to switch and it will sure give us arm chair pundits plenty to talk about if he does

I think Lorenzo's chances of winning a title on the Yamaha is just as slim with Rossi around.Why not take the big bucks and when that contract is up,maybe Rossi will be ready to retire. If at that time,he isnt getting along with the Ducati,he can go elsewhere.Turning down lifetime financial security is a hard thing to do.

chopperman · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Aug 21 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Lorenzo's chances of winning a title on the Yamaha is just as slim with Rossi around.Why not take the big bucks and when that contract is up,maybe Rossi will be ready to retire. If at that time,he isnt getting along with the Ducati,he can go elsewhere.Turning down lifetime financial security is a hard thing to do.
i Got to agree mate.

J4rn0 · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Aug 21 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Lorenzo's chances of winning a title on the Yamaha is just as slim with Rossi around.Why not take the big bucks and when that contract is up,maybe Rossi will be ready to retire. If at that time,he isnt getting along with the Ducati,he can go elsewhere.Turning down lifetime financial security is a hard thing to do.

Yup. I even think Lorenzo's (or any rider's) chances are better if he rides a different bike from Rossi's, -- at least then he can hope for differences in the machine that could enhance his competitiveness in some tracks in which the Rossi-Yamaha combination may be left wanting.

However, I still think that Stoner is the strongest rival and that an healthy Casey on a Honda, in 2010, could give Rossi the ultimate run for his money.

SackWack · Aug 21, 2009

Lorenzo and Hayden need to swap seats

SackWack · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 21 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey on a Honda, in 2010, could give Rossi the ultimate run for his money.

Rossi himself has confirmed this

levigarrett · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 21 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can you just imagine the hatred for lorenzo if he takes the ducati seat at the cost of stoners job. Many here have stated they had done a 180 on lorenzo since his 250 days. some have bayed for rossi fans to hate him because he is challenging him but ive yet to see this. will the stoner fans love him or hate him if he switches ? i know where my money is .

Replacing CS?? What am I missing? I think Hayden is gone for sure!! It's over, he's off to Yamaha. The real question is how will CS and JL get along?

levigarrett · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Aug 21 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo and Hayden need to swap seats

That would be fantastic! I consider myself a Ducati loyalist because I ride one every day but I would love to see Nicky on the factory Yam, I just don't think he's got the resume for it at the moment. I think Nicky may be on his last factory machine. If Nicky goes to T3 Yam, I hope he is able to run up front. He deserves it after putting up with the un-tamable for and entire season.

ptk50 · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 21 2009, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yup. I even think Lorenzo's (or any rider's) chances are better if he rides a different bike from Rossi's, -- at least then he can hope for differences in the machine that could enhance his competitiveness in some tracks in which the Rossi-Yamaha combination may be left wanting.

However, I still think that Stoner is the strongest rival and that an healthy Casey on a Honda, in 2010, could give Rossi the ultimate run for his money.

when stoner raced a Honda he kept falling off. Right now he's sick & can't fulfill his contract, if & when he will recover (hope he does) & if he will be competitive is a ??? Other thing for lorenzo if he goes to duc is that he will lose the best development & test rider (rossi) if he can help develop the stonerduc to be competitive is ?? But then kallio is doing the best job so far than anyone else with the 800

Austin · Aug 21, 2009

There has been a lot of credence given to Ducati's strategy of trying something different to take advantage of the main competitions potential weaknesses or downfalls. The Bridgestone tire switch in 2005 started it all for them. I'm not so sure it's in Lorenzo's best interest at this point. Sure, it would take a masterful effort to beat Rossi on the same bike, same tires. But it would take nearly as much effort to do the business on a bike no one else outside Stoner can get close with. I'm a Lorenzo fan, but this is a massive gamble. But like Povol said, it's hard to say no to that kind of money. Besides, if it works out that means Hayden is off to Fiat Yamaha. Something I didn't believe would ever be possible after 2007.

Keshav · Aug 21, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Aug 21 2009, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Other thing for lorenzo if he goes to duc is that he will lose the best development & test rider (rossi) if he can help develop the stonerduc to be competitive is ??

But then kallio is doing the best job so far than anyone else with the 800

Slow down. The first part isn't even a sentence.

It's jibberish.

Second part is not based in reality. But hey, don't let a little thing like facts
get in the way.

Austin:Besides, if it works out that means Hayden is off to Fiat Yamaha. Something I didn't believe would ever be possible after 2007.

I reckon Rossi doesn't feel threatened by Hayden and besides it would be a plus to have
Hayden back on a competitive bike again - so Rossi can have the pleasure of beating him
one more time. Stoner being such big question mark means that, potentially, there could nobody around for Rossi to battle with in 2010- not if Lorenzo is out floundering around on the Ducati.
I really hope Lorenzo comes to his senses and stays put. If Stoner were to continue to be ill, with Hayden (despite how much we all would like to not think about it) potentially showing up
in 2010 and unable to regain his edge, it could be a very boring season watching Rossi
run away with the championship.

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