Lorenzo sign with HRC

michaelm · Jun 8, 2018

J4rn0 said:
Ok, I have 5 minutes to waste . Maybe check 2016 regulations regarding ECU and tires, and Lorenzo's results that year. Then consider that Yamaha will have solved their problem by next year, and they would have surely given Lorenzo their best material. And probably more money than Honda is giving him.

But Jorge made the wrong decision because he's too proud to accept a private team, and Honda played on his pride. An immense pride is Lorenzo's only real problem. Now he'll proudly boast he's happy of being Marquez' teammate, but boy, he shouldn't. Nobody wanted to be there, and there are no ....... in this sport.

You probably have a point. The bike has been extremely difficult for anyone else to ride since 2014, witth even MM himself frequently throwing it down the road in 2015, and only Crutchlow making much of a fist of riding it since. Jack Miller had said the Ducati is much easier to ride than his previous Honda customer bike, and it can’t be all that appealing to satellite teams. Perhaps they are looking at Jorge to change that, but I think myself that keeping him from Yamaha was one consideration for Honda.

Keshav · Jun 8, 2018

J4rn0 said:
You have answered the begged question yourself: by hiring Lorenzo, HRC is effectively neutralizing the potential threat that he could have been in 2019 and 2020 on a Yamaha. With Zarco on a KTM, now they have two of the fastest Yamaha riders stuck on very different bikes for two years, not bad.

Plus they keep their young shark happy, feeding him a nice big fish with pedigree to play with.

Postscriptum: forgot to say that the only reason Ducati hired Lorenzo is that Dall'Igna really liked him since their good old Aprilia days. Which is also why Jorge accepted, besides the money.

This.

Jumkie · Jun 8, 2018

J4rn0 said:
... now they have two of the FASTEST YAMAHA RIDERS stuck on very different bikes for two years, not bad..

Wait, what? J4rn0?

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Little Walter · Jun 8, 2018

synn said:
You should ask your good buddy Kurryfart what PTSD feels like.
Don’t use your thesaurus though, his brain can’t yet handle it.

It's just great the way you have made one member your all-purpose whipping boy and simultaneously a pariah, who by mere association, you can pretend to discredit well founded logic that you cannot counter. Okay time's awasting, seconds ticking on the clock. Where is my biting insult?

McZee · Jun 8, 2018

J4rn0 said:
But Jorge made the wrong decision because he's too proud to accept a private team, and Honda played on his pride. An immense pride is Lorenzo's only real problem. .

That's the thing though, the mindset of these guys cannot be underestimated.
I saw an interview with Sete once and when they asked him if he thought he could beat Vale he said yes, to which the interviewer responded, "So do you think that you're the best in the world?" and Sete replied "Of course! You have to think like that to race at this level."
That's me saying that I agree with you, but just being a bit long winded about it.

Keshav · Jun 8, 2018

RCV600RR said:
Klog, klog, klog.

I almost thought you were starting to behave and that Kancer was in remission, but you've relapsed.

Almost thought you'd had enough of being Cupcake's waterboy.

JPSLotus · Jun 8, 2018

Little Walter said:
It's just great the way you have made one member your all-purpose whipping boy and simultaneously a pariah, who by mere association, you can pretend to discredit well founded logic that you cannot counter. Okay time's awasting, seconds ticking on the clock. Where is my biting insult?

Clog clog clog.

RCV600RR · Jun 8, 2018

Keshav said:
Almost thought you'd had enough of being Cupcake's waterboy.

Heh. Actually, Jums and I usually disagree pretty strongly on all things Rossi and Marquez. However, we do it with some measure of mutual respect.

The difference is that he doesn't try to klog every thread with irrelevant nonsense, like you do.

Little Walter · Jun 8, 2018

JPSLotus said:
Clog clog clog.

Ooh, it's Jumkie's echo.

Keshav · Jun 8, 2018

RCV600RR said:
Heh. Actually, Jums and I usually disagree pretty strongly on all things Rossi and Marquez. However, we do it with some measure of mutual respect.

The difference is that he doesn't try to klog every thread with irrelevant nonsense, like you do.

While I have Synn on ignore, I can't help occasionally seeing his posts quoted in other people talking on a given topic and note that he regularly tries to degrade people with mean insults, and yet, not a word out of you or Jumkie. Not a word. Time to give up the idea that you hold some moral high ground. You and a few others are just letting yourself get sucked into the mean girls club. I'm not 12 and looking for validation from anyone here, that .... just runs off my back like water. BTW - by commenting on every little whine from Jumkie, you just exacerbate and prolong this .....

JPSLotus · Jun 8, 2018

Little Walter said:
Ooh, it's Jumkie's echo.

If you left this forum no one would notice or care.

RCV600RR · Jun 8, 2018

Keshav said:
While I have Synn on ignore, I can't help occasionally seeing his posts quoted in other people talking on a given topic and note that he regularly tries to degrade people with mean insults, and yet, not a word out of you or Jumkie. Not a word.

It's retaliation. You can't slap someone and complain that you got a punch in the face back.

RCV600RR · Jun 8, 2018

Keshav said:
BTW - by commenting on every little whine from Jumkie, you just exacerbate and prolong this .....

You are truly embarrassing. You klog the thread, someone calls you out, and the person that calls you out is at fault? The guy that is klogging isn't exacerbating and prolonging things?

Your lack of self-awareness is something to behold.

evo9 · Jun 8, 2018

J4rn0 said:
Ok, I have 5 minutes to waste . Maybe check 2016 regulations regarding ECU and tires, and Lorenzo's results that year. Then consider that Yamaha will have solved their problem by next year, and they would have surely given Lorenzo their best material. And probably more money than Honda is giving him.

But Jorge made the wrong decision because he's too proud to accept a private team, and Honda played on his pride. An immense pride is Lorenzo's only real problem. Now he'll proudly boast he's happy of being Marquez' teammate, but boy, he shouldn't. Nobody wanted to be there, and there are no ....... in this sport.

You are in for a disappointment. https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/lorenzo-and-honda-will-they-win

Keshav · Jun 8, 2018

RCV600RR said:
It's retaliation. You can't slap someone and complain that you got a punch in the face back.

You as usual conveniently ignore what I say. So I repeat, how can you make such a big deal over two mild words said by me and not say a word about all mean spirited insults from Synn??? Totally hypocritical of you and your clutch of mean girls.

I made a very slight remark and Jumkie blathered on with a lot of self-important nonsense and that would be the end of but you and your fellow waterways have to have a piece of the action, have to chime in and drag this out. I had said nothing to you or the others, but like all little gossipy girls who can't mind their own business, you can't resist chiming in with your two-cents. You mistakenly think I care about your "retaliation" but I don't. I only pointed out how embarrassingly counterproductive your posts are.

RCV600RR · Jun 8, 2018

Keshav said:
I made a very slight remark and Jumkie blathered on with a lot of self-important nonsense and that would be the end of but you and your fellow waterways have to have a piece of the action, have to chime in and drag this out. I had said nothing to you or the others, but like all little gossipy girls who can't mind their own business, you can't resist chiming in with your two-cents. You mistakenly think I care about your "retaliation" but I don't. I only pointed out how embarrassingly counterproductive your posts are.

We're all sick and tired of your klogging, Kancer. You can't expect to klog threads, and then whinge when people point out that you're klogging threads.

You're absurdity is so great that you not only like to klog, but you complain if anyone disagrees with your klogging. You want to shut down all criticism.

This thread has now been klogged by yet another OTT Kancer post.

You can't help yourself.

RCV600RR · Jun 8, 2018

evo9 said:
You are in for a disappointment. https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/lorenzo-and-honda-will-they-win

Everyone is writing JL off too quickly.

synn · Jun 8, 2018

RCV600RR said:
Klog, klog, klog.

I almost thought you were starting to behave and that Kancer was in remission, but you've relapsed.

It’s a particularly aggressive strain.
Doctors usually recommend a lobotomy, but that only works for patients with a brain.

synn · Jun 8, 2018

Little Walter said:
It's just great the way you have made one member your all-purpose whipping boy and simultaneously a pariah, who by mere association, you can pretend to discredit well founded logic that you cannot counter. Okay time's awasting, seconds ticking on the clock. Where is my biting insult?

You’re little Walter.
Isn’t that insulting enough?

synn · Jun 8, 2018

Keshav said:
While I have Synn on ignore, I can't help occasionally seeing his posts quoted in other people talking on a given topic and note that he regularly tries to degrade people with mean insults, and yet, not a word out of you or Jumkie. Not a word. Time to give up the idea that you hold some moral high ground. You and a few others are just letting yourself get sucked into the mean girls club. I'm not 12 and looking for validation from anyone here, that .... just runs off my back like water. BTW - by commenting on every little whine from Jumkie, you just exacerbate and prolong this .....

For someone who hates all things yellow, you sure have a lot of it running down your leg whenever you want to confront me directly.

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