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Carmelo doesn't care about the booing. I suspect it's because the right guys are getting booed. This is the man who gaged the entire sport shielding Rossi from answering the hard questions before the Valencia farce. I'm sure if Rossi were being booed new rules would be written. I like how he also admits changing the organization over one man's accusations that started this .... storm.



And what do you think about the consequences of all that? Of the booing, for example?

"I don't care at all about the booing. You can't mistake managing a championship with wanting to control the public's opinion. That was an spontaneous reaction from a few people, some against and others for, and they are entitled to do it as long as they don't cross certain lines.

"I can't make a man forget something that was important for him because he felt aggravated or wronged. He and his fans make decisions and I can't do anything to change their minds.

"What I don't want is certain boundaries to be crossed, or that things are taken to the track. Aside from that, if they whistle, too bad. They jeer Messi in the Bernabeu and Ronaldo in the Camp Nou and they just move on."

Do you mean to say that riders have a very thin skin?

"Fame has good and bad things. When the Valentino thing happened, people insulted me from both sides and I had to accept it. First because there are people who think we took a side, and that does worry me. Then we decided to stop being part of the sanctioning body."

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...troversy-didn-t-benefit-motogp-at-all-737902/

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A journalist actually asked Rossi for a message to the Mugello fans and he said they must respect all riders...
MotoGP, Rossi: al Mugello la vera lotta è arrivare al box
You're being the English version of Daniboy. Did you bother to read this ....?

First of all he MOCKED the idea of having a bodyguard, the disgraceful news that it's come to this .....

"I need a bodyguard - jokes the Doctor..."

Second, his answer to asking if he had a message, totally avoiding the specifically ...... up situation of having to provide protection for two fellow competitors (which he started) illustrated what a chickenshit bitch both the "journalists" and Rossi are.


What would you like to say to them?

“That you need to respect all the riders, and athletes in general”. VR
 
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You're being the English version of Daniboy. Did you bother to read this ....?

First of all he MOCKED the idea of having a bodyguard, the disgraceful news that it's come to this .....

"I need a bodyguard - jokes the Doctor..."

Second, his answer to asking if he had a message, totally avoiding the specifically ...... up situation of having to provide protection for two fellow competitors (which he started) illustrated what a chickenshit bitch both the "journalists" and Rossi are.


What would you like to say to them?

“That you need to respect all the riders, and athletes in general”. VR

Chill! you're stressing yourself out. J4 is Italian you crazy fool hellloooo
 
Carmelo doesn't care about the booing. I suspect it's because the right guys are getting booed. This is the man who gaged the entire sport shielding Rossi from answering the hard questions before the Valencia farce. I'm sure if Rossi were being booed new rules would be written. I like how he also admits changing the organization over one man's accusations that started this .... storm.



And what do you think about the consequences of all that? Of the booing, for example?

"I don't care at all about the booing. You can't mistake managing a championship with wanting to control the public's opinion. That was an spontaneous reaction from a few people, some against and others for, and they are entitled to do it as long as they don't cross certain lines.

"I can't make a man forget something that was important for him because he felt aggravated or wronged. He and his fans make decisions and I can't do anything to change their minds.

"What I don't want is certain boundaries to be crossed, or that things are taken to the track. Aside from that, if they whistle, too bad. They jeer Messi in the Bernabeu and Ronaldo in the Camp Nou and they just move on."

Do you mean to say that riders have a very thin skin?

"Fame has good and bad things. When the Valentino thing happened, people insulted me from both sides and I had to accept it. First because there are people who think we took a side, and that does worry me. Then we decided to stop being part of the sanctioning body."

Ezpeleta: "The Rossi-Marquez controversy didn't benefit MotoGP at all"

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As we thought, Carmelo doesn't understand the sport he runs, and thinks it is no different than soccer/football. I think the larger organisation of which Dorna is a subsidiary may have gotten the rights to MotoGP as part of a package deal the major part of which were soccer rights in the first place.
 
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As we thought, Carmelo doesn't understand the sport he runs, and thinks it is no different than soccer/football. I think the larger organisation of which Dorns is a subsidiary may have gotten the rights to MotoGP as part of a package deal the major part of which were soccer rights in the first place.

Not what I read in the wiki article, dorna is bike sport all the way. Formed in 88 and got commercial rights to GP in 92
 
I just saw this. Are you SERIOUS?

I guess these are examples of 'Media hype' then, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnFdYnkCg7Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdCTnGO4FTQ

This literally happens in every sport... Not that big of a deal. This kind of stuff is child's play compared to soccer, football in some states. This happens a lot in racing... just look at Nascar. Those guys beat the crap out of each other every season. Their crews get into it as well. Keeping it safe on the track is all I care about.

Its better to have passionate fans that love their riders and pay to go to the races.

If you want boring fans go watch an Indy Car race.... that sport died years ago because of the lack of passion.
 
all I have o say is two mates thought moto2 bikes had sensors in their tyres.
After the moto2 quali and somebody got demoted i can't remember who ask me tomorrow when not so wobbly.
I witnessed a convo that was going why didn't sensors pick it up, how can it happen, total fcuking uproar.
So I got home and having watched the race piped up with "moto2 bikes have no tyre sensors but are compulsory from the next race" Just because I had heard it on the commentary, Steve Day said it.
All I got was Oh cheers Red for holding that snippet of information!
Yet I thought it was common knowledge.
Funny that innit?
Bedtime! cya fcuckers:p
 
Not what I read in the wiki article, dorna is bike sport all the way. Formed in 88 and got commercial rights to GP in 92

You needed to read further. They were a subsidiary of a larger group called Bridgepoint Capital, who are venture capitalists, who also acquired much more valuable football media rights at the same time as Dorna took over GP bike racing, the sale of which was I think forced by EU regulators who would not allow the previous rights holders to hold the rights to both F1 and GP bike racing. I have not kept up, but I believe they are still at least partly owned by Bridgepoint, although a Canadian pension fund is now also involved, whether by directly owning part of Dorna or through owning part of Bridgepoint Capital I don't recall.
 
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This literally happens in every sport... Not that big of a deal. This kind of stuff is child's play compared to soccer, football in some states. This happens a lot in racing... just look at Nascar. Those guys beat the crap out of each other every season. Their crews get into it as well. Keeping it safe on the track is all I care about.

Its better to have passionate fans that love their riders and pay to go to the races.

If you want boring fans go watch an Indy Car race.... that sport died years ago because of the lack of passion.

This is the whole point. Motor bike racing is not at all like football, the riders are risking life and limb at all times, and a major competitor in poor Marco Simoncelli died in a MotoGP race as recently as 4 years ago.
 
This is the whole point. Motor bike racing is not at all like football, the riders are risking life and limb at all times, and a major competitor in poor Marco Simoncelli died in a MotoGP race as recently as 4 years ago.

Any motorsport is life risky no matter 2,3 or 4 wheels. Tell me which kind of motorsport is safe?
 
Any motorsport is life risky no matter 2,3 or 4 wheels. Tell me which kind of motorsport is safe?
Every sport has its unique culture. Booing is not normally part of motorcycle racing. What you're doing and millions like you are suddenly rationalizing this as acceptable behavior of MotoGP, it's not. You can rationalize all you want to fool yourself into accepting the negative affects of Rossi’s chickenshit accusations and subsequent meltdown, but it still won't change the fact this wasn't part of this sport. It has become part of it, yes, but that is thanks to fans like you who take their lead from cowards like Rossi. What is fascinating is that most of you Yellow fans choose to identify with Rossi because of the inflated records, as I'm told there is psychological research to back up this phenomenon of identifying with the "success". When you dawn the 46 cap you feel like you're successful too. Guess what, the yellow hat also reflects his character on you too. That's the fascinating part.
 
Any motorsport is life risky no matter 2,3 or 4 wheels. Tell me which kind of motorsport is safe?

I don't agree with booing of any motorsports competitors. MotoGP bikes don't have safety cells though, and drivers are seldom thrown off or out of cars.

If you like Roman circuses that is your taste, but bike racing is a sport where traditionally the riders have been more respected, and booing on the podium and cheering of riders crashing out is not at all to my taste, and generally indicative imo of a lack of knowledge of the sport and certainly of its traditions.
 
Mike, dont get caught up in arguing which motorsport is safer than others, it's an obvious fallacy these fans are employing (and rather reflective of Rossi I may add) to justify the disrespect of Lorenzo and Marquez. This 'sudden' (and it is recently) prevailing argument is that "sports" are all the "same" and just like 'soccer' booing is going to happen because fans are "passionate". But it's .........



Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)
 
Mike, dont get caught up in arguing which motorsport is safer than others, it's an obvious fallacy these fans are employing (and rather reflective of Rossi I may add) to justify the disrespect of Lorenzo and Marquez. This 'sudden' (and it is recently) prevailing argument is that "sports" are all the "same" and just like 'soccer' booing is going to happen because fans are "passionate". But it's .........



Content Warning: Look ....... (.)(.)

I can agree with the fact that I too hold motorcycle racers in higher regard than any other athlete due to the risks involved. That being said and this is coming from a knowledgable fan) there are so many reasons why fans react a certain way. Some of those reasons we will never fully understand unless you live in the region and understand their culture.

You don't understand their specific love for the sport, the level of passion for a rider, the cultural escape, ect. ect.

As long as a fan never has physical contact with a rider or never endangers the riders on the track I am fine with whatever else happens.

Passion, love, hate, its what makes our sport great. I race in two series in California and I have a massive passion in participating and watching this sport.
I love seeing Rossi, Iannone, A. Espagro, and Redding do well. I definitely boo at the tv and dislike seeing anyone else doing well. That does not mean I have less respect for them. Just the way I like to interact with the sport I love.

One last point. As much as a lot of the people on here love to hate Rossi. The current competition between Rossi, Lorenzo, and Marquez is unlike anything we have ever seen really. It has propelled this sport to the popularity it commands today. Sit back and enjoy the show. Let fans behave the way they want. If they pay to get in and want to boo a certain rider.... so be it.

Yes I like Rossi and yes I am Italian.
 

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