KILL TC!!!!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 25 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Catalunya??...... first race, first lap, of the season at Qatar... bike pulled on everyone down the straight like they were parked.
very true but it became obvious at catalunya that the duc was in a class of it's own

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>very true but it became obvious at catalunya that the duc was in a class of it's own

It turned out to be a big race, as it also became apparent that Stoner was in a class of his own. There was no looking back after that

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 25 2009, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It turned out to be a big race, as it also became apparent that Stoner was in a class of his own. There was no looking back after that

I dont know...seems i remember him looking back a couple times last year...then looking at the kitty litter

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 25 2009, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dont know...seems i remember him looking back a couple times last year...then looking at the kitty litter

yea. 2008 was a very different story wasn't it. i still have no idea whats gonna happen this year!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 25 2009, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It turned out to be a big race, as it also became apparent that Stoner was in a class of his own. There was no looking back after that
on the long straight yeah. different story on the curvy bits tho wasn't it !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah, hayden bashing cos he couldn't win races and cruised is consistent ... to a championship and stoner bashing cos of his whining

win or loose im bashing gibbers this year cos he is a .......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think the better bike debate came from catalunya 07. did you watch that race ?
i only saw some parts...

still, without stoner rossi would win, and the next ducati would be... capirossi! and he got! 6th? thats not overpowered...

i would say its the bike when only a bike of one brand is dominating, and more than one rider is dominating on the bike...

when stoner and capirex were owning the playfield it would be the bike, but loris, who is a great rider, got 'only' 7th in the WC on the superduper overpowered bike... with 1 fictory
he got 3th in 2006 when ducati wasnt that 'superior', and he won 3 times...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 25 2009, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i only saw some parts...

still, without stoner rossi would win, and the next ducati would be... capirossi! and he got! 6th? thats not overpowered...

i would say its the bike when only a bike of one brand is dominating, and more than one rider is dominating on the bike...

when stoner and capirex were owning the playfield it would be the bike, but loris, who is a great rider, got 'only' 7th in the WC on the superduper overpowered bike... with 1 fictory
he got 3th in 2006 when ducati wasnt that 'superior', and he won 3 times...
guess you didn't read Barros's interview about ducati throwing all there resources at one bike. Barros didn't even have a suspension technician. im not taking away from the wonders stoner has done on that bike but that's not forget different riders get different levels of support and different parts at different time's. we all know it happened at HRC too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>guess you didn't read Barros's interview about ducati throwing all there resources at one bike. Barros didn't even have a suspension technician. im not taking away from the wonders stoner has done on that bike but that's not forget different riders get different levels of support and different parts at different time's. we all know it happened at HRC too.
yeah now making that statement just think of the kinda support Valentino must get compared to anyone on the grid.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Feb 25 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah now making that statement just think of the kinda support Valentino must get compared to anyone on the grid.
very true, and i think that will really show this season with lots of teams making cut backs. will rossi's team make cut backs ? i dont think so this year. next year could be a different story.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>very true, and i think that will really show this season with lots of teams making cut backs. will rossi's team make cut backs ? i dont think so this year. next year could be a different story.

How much more of a cut back from the RC211V to the M1 does he need to have to shut these ....... up Rogy?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>guess you didn't read Barros's interview about ducati throwing all there resources at one bike. Barros didn't even have a suspension technician. im not taking away from the wonders stoner has done on that bike but that's not forget different riders get different levels of support and different parts at different time's. we all know it happened at HRC too.


It amazes me Rog that folks believe that all things are equal in a factory team. It's been like that for years, Sheene was famous for his factory insiders that got him the best stuff before anyone else. Niall Mackenzie being told to hold position and not to race Schwantz on the Suzuki, then being fired for not winning. Who remembers Roberts face when Cadalora passed Rainey for the win at Donny 93? He was told he was out at the end of the season for disobeying team orders, because Rainey was racing Schwantz for the title, and with Schwantz out on lap one, it was a chance for a big points cushion. Cadalora however, kept his ride after Waynes tragic accident.

When a title is on the line, a team will have a number one rider, and thats the way it is.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 25 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How much more of a cut back from the RC211V to the M1 does he need to have to shut these ....... up Rogy?
good point curve

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 25 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It amazes me Rog that folks believe that all things are equal in a factory team. It's been like that for years, Sheene was famous for his factory insiders that got him the best stuff before anyone else. Niall Mackenzie being told to hold position and not to race Schwantz on the Suzuki, then being fired for not winning. Who remembers Roberts face when Cadalora passed Rainey for the win at Donny 93? He was told he was out at the end of the season for disobeying team orders, because Rainey was racing Schwantz for the title, and with Schwantz out on lap one, it was a chance for a big points cushion. Cadalora however, kept his ride after Waynes tragic accident.

When a title is on the line, a team will have a number one rider, and thats the way it is.

Pete
yep and more recently i remember ducati wagging a finger at capi for the cheek of beating there golden boy didnt he give them the finger

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 26 2009, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>all those people were bashing a kiddo who was dominating... but he was/is the only one who can ride the damn thing...

Found some of it then!!??

Good to see you actually got off your arse and looked, as some have suggested it was a time of some "real mythical stories" going round, sadly Rog. still lives and believes all of them

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 25 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yep and more recently i remember ducati wagging a finger at capi for the cheek of beating there golden boy didnt he give them the finger
Didn't Barros land himself in hot water at Mugello in '07 for the same reason?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't Barros land himself in hot water at Mugello in '07 for the same reason?
yeah he did, not that the old boy was to bothered about there threats

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 26 2009, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't Barros land himself in hot water at Mugello in '07 for the same reason?

By speculation from the Rossifans yes he did ...... Ducati, nor there riders, said nothing


So then we get more:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 26 2009, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah he did, not that the old boy was to bothered about there threats

what is a "Rossifan myth" gets truly assimilated by Rog.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't Barros land himself in hot water at Mugello in '07 for the same reason?

What is Barros up to these days?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't Barros land himself in hot water at Mugello in '07 for the same reason?

I've always liked Barros. You can just tell the oldman always give everything he has whenever he hops on a bike..... very exciting rider. Way more worthy of a ride than half of the riders on the current MotoGP grid, even at his current age.