Jumkie
Probably, but I haven't seen him in person. I just follow his tweets.
Probably, but I haven't seen him in person. I just follow his tweets.
Joined Aug 2009
1K Posts | 328+
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Jumkie
No angle at all, Schwantz saw an opportunity and tried to take advantage of it.
Dorna have always dealt with the tracks for putting up races,
why would they want to deal with a middleman on one of 18 races they have.
On another note...Are you interested in buying general admission tickets for Laguna, I am buying some and reselling them for a profit.
No angle at all, Schwantz saw an opportunity and tried to take advantage of it.
Dorna have always dealt with the tracks for putting up races,
why would they want to deal with a middleman on one of 18 races they have.
On another note...Are you interested in buying general admission tickets for Laguna, I am buying some and reselling them for a profit.
shovelhead
It was Dorna who assigned the original Texas 10-year race rights to Schwantz's company (3Four Texas) in the first place. He didn't just magically pull them out of thin air or somehow sneak out of Dorna HQ with them. You seem to think Schwantz was somehow getting away with something or putting something over on someone. He wasn't. He had the rights and was going to promote the race and be an ambassador for the sport even after he assigned the rights to COTA, had they been genuinely interested. They were only interested in finding a way around him.
ETA: I'll add that it was COTA who was being disingenuous re: the rights. Among other things they did, they continually advertised the MotoGP race when Schwantz owned the rights and COTA wasn't even interested in acquiring them from him. They used Schwantz's MotoGP rights to generate much-needed investment in the circuit and to promote PSL sales, all while cutting him out of the mix. Is that even legal? They also touted his planned Motorcycle Riding School to investors and potential PSL purchasers and only stopped advertising the Moto GP race when he told them to stop dodging him or stop using the logo.
It was Dorna who assigned the original Texas 10-year race rights to Schwantz's company (3Four Texas) in the first place. He didn't just magically pull them out of thin air or somehow sneak out of Dorna HQ with them. You seem to think Schwantz was somehow getting away with something or putting something over on someone. He wasn't. He had the rights and was going to promote the race and be an ambassador for the sport even after he assigned the rights to COTA, had they been genuinely interested. They were only interested in finding a way around him.
ETA: I'll add that it was COTA who was being disingenuous re: the rights. Among other things they did, they continually advertised the MotoGP race when Schwantz owned the rights and COTA wasn't even interested in acquiring them from him. They used Schwantz's MotoGP rights to generate much-needed investment in the circuit and to promote PSL sales, all while cutting him out of the mix. Is that even legal? They also touted his planned Motorcycle Riding School to investors and potential PSL purchasers and only stopped advertising the Moto GP race when he told them to stop dodging him or stop using the logo.
Texas
And Jensen is a good dude. And not the dude in the too-tight leathers in the pit box full of Panigales.
They "prefer" that VIPs pay the same price as everyone else.
And Jensen is a good dude. And not the dude in the too-tight leathers in the pit box full of Panigales.
Jumkie
Not good as in a good piece of writing, but it makes the points (opinions) that we all do not want to hear. I am, of course, on kevin's side. I think he was a bit naive on the business end of this deal. Yes, we do not know the facts, nobody truly does except for those involved. But, the only way to get yourself into the trouble he did is to not have the correct documentation. The sad part of business, and life for that matter, is that everyone in the long run is looking out for themselves. What he needed before all this started was the right people behind him looking at all those legal loopholes to be filled.
Either way, we all hope that this is resolved in schwantz's favor.
Not good as in a good piece of writing, but it makes the points (opinions) that we all do not want to hear. I am, of course, on kevin's side. I think he was a bit naive on the business end of this deal. Yes, we do not know the facts, nobody truly does except for those involved. But, the only way to get yourself into the trouble he did is to not have the correct documentation. The sad part of business, and life for that matter, is that everyone in the long run is looking out for themselves. What he needed before all this started was the right people behind him looking at all those legal loopholes to be filled.
Either way, we all hope that this is resolved in schwantz's favor.
Kropotkin
Yeah, I didn't know if he was in the photo or not. That's just a photo he tweeted earlier today.
Re: VIP pricing, the email they sent me that contained that password said it was to be used to obtain "preferred pricing". Otherwise, why use a password? It changed nothing at all.
ETA: Looking back at it again, I see you were being sarcastic. My bad. My meter needs calibrating.
Yeah, I didn't know if he was in the photo or not. That's just a photo he tweeted earlier today.
Re: VIP pricing, the email they sent me that contained that password said it was to be used to obtain "preferred pricing". Otherwise, why use a password? It changed nothing at all.
ETA: Looking back at it again, I see you were being sarcastic. My bad. My meter needs calibrating.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Kropotkin
Maybe, but his article on the matter was pitiful.
This is how a respectable journalist covers a story like this. (Presents the situation, includes any facts they may or may not have, says honestly its difficulty to make a judgement, then makes his exit.)
http://motomatters.com/news/2013/03/21/kevin_schwantz_and_circuit_of_the_americ.html
Maybe, but his article on the matter was pitiful.
This is how a respectable journalist covers a story like this. (Presents the situation, includes any facts they may or may not have, says honestly its difficulty to make a judgement, then makes his exit.)
http://motomatters.com/news/2013/03/21/kevin_schwantz_and_circuit_of_the_americ.html
Dr No
3M Permanent Label Adhesive - accept no substitute!
You can get it off with a solvent like citrus oil or acetone, but that's as much of a .... to the finish as scraping would be.
Stick them to lots of shiny things. Expensive shiny things like electronics, important signage, laminates...
3M Permanent Label Adhesive - accept no substitute!
You can get it off with a solvent like citrus oil or acetone, but that's as much of a .... to the finish as scraping would be.
Stick them to lots of shiny things. Expensive shiny things like electronics, important signage, laminates...
Joined Jul 2007
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unda cheese
Zootalaws
Can it peel fat off kids?
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3M Permanent Label Adhesive - accept no substitute!
You can get it off with a solvent like citrus oil or acetone, but that's as much of a .... to the finish as scraping would be.
Stick them to lots of shiny things. Expensive shiny things like electronics, important signage, laminates...
Can it peel fat off kids?
Joined Jan 2011
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The North!
JohnnyKnockdown
I'll get my mate's wife to try - she is bound to have some fatties in her class.
I'll get my mate's wife to try - she is bound to have some fatties in her class.
Andy Roo
Yeah, it looks funny in the photo because you can't see the road. The road forks there and the sign sits between the two forks. Coming in or out you need to stay to the right of the sign.
Yeah, it looks funny in the photo because you can't see the road. The road forks there and the sign sits between the two forks. Coming in or out you need to stay to the right of the sign.
Joined Feb 2008
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Kevin Schwantz. Awesome rider in his day. Self-serving old fart desperately trying to remain relevant (and pick up a few bucks while doing so) in a sport he is no longer part of. Not taking any sides in this particular case, seems to me like one of those cases where nobody has been on his best behavior.
Bawww, Stiefel, you're only saying that because you're a Stoner fan!
There Jumkie, saved you from making that post.
Bawww, Stiefel, you're only saying that because you're a Stoner fan!
There Jumkie, saved you from making that post.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Haha, i love it. Its essentially a big .... YOU COTA love, Laguna Seca.
Edit: its also a big FU to Stoner fans talking .... about KS.
stiefel
A sport he is no longer part of?
Talking out of your .... Schwantz is very involved in the sport - he is responsible for the Red Bull rookies in the Americas, among other things like training camps, consultancy, etc.
KS has given a heck of a lot back to the sport he excelled at, a lot more than a lot of other old riders.
A sport he is no longer part of?
Talking out of your .... Schwantz is very involved in the sport - he is responsible for the Red Bull rookies in the Americas, among other things like training camps, consultancy, etc.
KS has given a heck of a lot back to the sport he excelled at, a lot more than a lot of other old riders.
