Isn't he brilliant

Will let all you Rossi boys have your little love in.

But I will remember this thread when the Yamaha blows an engine and needs to use several additional engines contributing to Rossi's loss to Stoner in the WC and then we will see how LOYAL and not a traitor the beloved Rossi is when he scrabbles to get on another bike for 2011. After all if he was no traitor he would still be riding Michelins and we would probably still have a tyre war and Honda would still have their multiple world championship crew. But hey I digress from the topic because Rossi has always cared about the good of the sport and never just about himself - My bad!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Will let all you Rossi boys have your little love in.

But I will remember this thread when the Yamaha blows an engine and needs to use several additional engines contributing to Rossi's loss to Stoner in the WC and then we will see how LOYAL and not a traitor the beloved Rossi is when he scrabbles to get on another bike for 2011. After all if he was no traitor he would still be riding Michelins and we would probably still have a tyre war and Honda would still have their multiple world championship crew. But hey I digress from the topic because Rossi has always cared about the good of the sport and never just about himself - My bad!
So Honda have been languishing on the fringes since 2004 because Rossi is a traitor in your opinion. This does rather imply that you think very highly of the Rossi-JB partnership. Be careful, you'll be seen as a Rossi fanboy next

In all seriousness, do you honestly believe that Michelin would still be in MotoGP if not for Rossi wanting (and getting) Bridgestones for 2008? Even if that were so, how does wanting the best package make any rider a traitor?

Where is it written that riders are expected to have loyalty to any manufacturer (bike, suspension, tyre etc)? Without such an expectation, the concept of betrayal does not exist. Anyway, surely they are all out there to win races and ultimately the WC, so no rider is going to willingly settle for second best.

Having typed that last sentence, I guess that that is exactly what Rossi did when he left the all conquering factory Honda for Yamaha.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Will let all you Rossi boys have your little love in.

But I will remember this thread when the Yamaha blows an engine and needs to use several additional engines contributing to Rossi's loss to Stoner in the WC and then we will see how LOYAL and not a traitor the beloved Rossi is when he scrabbles to get on another bike for 2011. After all if he was no traitor he would still be riding Michelins and we would probably still have a tyre war and Honda would still have their multiple world championship crew. But hey I digress from the topic because Rossi has always cared about the good of the sport and never just about himself - My bad!

So 2006 was a crappy bike, 2007 were crappy tires... You see, you are full of Rossi Love!

And what makes you think Ducati are not the ones (with a complete change of engine) that will blow one or more engines? Right there in live! You never know mate, perhaps your yinks find a mirror!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 14 2010, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So Honda have been languishing on the fringes since 2004 because Rossi is a traitor in your opinion. This does rather imply that you think very highly of the Rossi-JB partnership. Be careful, you'll be seen as a Rossi fanboy next
Of course I rate them highly. JB took Gardner to 1 WC and Doohan to 5 WC's and now Rossi to 7 WC's. Is there anyone more successful than JB in MotoGP?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>In all seriousness, do you honestly believe that Michelin would still be in MotoGP if not for Rossi wanting (and getting) Bridgestones for 2008? Even if that were so, how does wanting the best package make any rider a traitor?
If Rossi had stuck it out with the manufacture who had delivered him so many good times rather than jump ship after one bad season and tried to 'develop' Michelin back to the front than yes a control tyre would probably not have been necessary. Rossi quotes that he would feel like a traitor leaving Yamaha because it is so good being with them. Well Michelin made Rossi feel pretty bloody good every race day when his specially made race tyres arrived on race morning. But as soon as that went bad there was only dust in Rossi's wake.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Where is it written that riders are expected to have loyalty to any manufacturer (bike, suspension, tyre etc)? Without such an expectation, the concept of betrayal does not exist. Anyway, surely they are all out there to win races and ultimately the WC, so no rider is going to willingly settle for second best.

It is written in Rossi's quote. He says that he would feel like a traitor if he left. There is no caveat there saying except if their bike ends up ..... This is exactly my point. Everyone is praising Rossi for his loyalty but if it turns into a dog he will be gone quicker than you can smell the stink of the dog's .....

I am not saying this is wrong. What I am saying is lets not all carry on as if Rossi is mister loyal nice guy. If Yamaha don't deliver he will not give them a second glance as he leaves. Nor will he batt an eyelid as he takes away the whole crew again leaving Yamaha to start from scratch just like Honda had to.

Once again I am not saying that any of this is wrong I am just saying lets not treat Rossi as if he is there for the greater good of the sport, Yamaha or Dorna. He is there for the greater good of Valentino Rossi period.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Mar 14 2010, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And what makes you think Ducati are not the ones (with a complete change of engine) that will blow one or more engines? Right there in live! You never know mate, perhaps your yinks find a mirror!

V, That could very well be the case. The chance of Yamaha building a crap engine is almost zero. I am not saying at all that the Yamaha will be crap. I am just trying to put a bit of perspective in to the discussion.

I would hate for an engine failure for anyone to decide the title. I am quite certain that you don't want Rossi to win because Stoner blew an engine just as much as I don't want the opposite. We all want the winner to win on merit.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course I rate them highly. JB took Gardner to 1 WC and Doohan to 5 WC's and now Rossi to 7 WC's. Is there anyone more successful than JB in MotoGP?

Someone has to win the Championships! Burguess is the Best Chief Mechanic; he just needs the Best Rider to close the deal!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Rossi had stuck it out with the manufacture who had delivered him so many good times rather than jump ship after one bad season and tried to 'develop' Michelin back to the front than yes a control tyre would probably not have been necessary. Rossi quotes that he would feel like a traitor leaving Yamaha because it is so good being with them. Well Michelin made Rossi feel pretty bloody good every race day when his specially made race tyres arrived on race morning. But as soon as that went bad there was only dust in Rossi's wake.

Shreeding… I would send them to hell… My life at stake or their Brand? Bye bye ex-partner!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is written in Rossi's quote. He says that he would feel like a traitor if he left. There is no caveat there saying except if their bike ends up ..... This is exactly my point. Everyone is praising Rossi for his loyalty but if it turns into a dog he will be gone quicker than you can smell the stink of the dog's .....

Right now that Yamaha cares to give him what he wants and needs, why 'betray' them? If not… the hell with them! Any Rider would do it if they had proven 7 Championships worth.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am not saying this is wrong.

Lot's of Rossi Love mate!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What I am saying is lets not all carry on as if Rossi is mister loyal nice guy. If Yamaha don't deliver he will not give them a second glance as he leaves. Nor will he batt an eyelid as he takes away the whole crew again leaving Yamaha to start from scratch just like Honda had to.

Rossi is not such a nice guy, or even nice while Racing… You win a lot of Championships by hitting the opponents even when they are down, in the correct manners of course. Most Sports behave the same way, greatest Sportsmen/women have done it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Once again I am not saying that any of this is wrong I am just saying lets not treat Rossi as if he is there for the greater good of the sport, Yamaha or Dorna. He is there for the greater good of Valentino Rossi period.

Rossi is there to win, simple. If it implies a greater good for the sport, Yamaha or Dorna, so be it. Can't be bad for him!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 13 2010, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>V, That could very well be the case. The chance of Yamaha building a crap engine is almost zero. I am not saying at all that the Yamaha will be crap. I am just trying to put a bit of perspective in to the discussion.

I would hate for an engine failure for anyone to decide the title. I am quite certain that you don't want Rossi to win because Stoner blew an engine just as much as I don't want the opposite. We all want the winner to win on merit.


No doubt!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 14 2010, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So Honda have been languishing on the fringes since 2004 because Rossi is a traitor in your opinion. This does rather imply that you think very highly of the Rossi-JB partnership. Be careful, you'll be seen as a Rossi fanboy next

Who else but the most dedicated Rossi booper could come up with excuses for why he might not win the championship already now before the first round?

TP70:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>But I will remember this thread when the Yamaha blows an engine and needs to use several additional engines contributing to Rossi's loss to Stoner in the WC

Even if it's silly to start up with excuses like that you are forgiven TP70. As we all know it's those new comers that are the most fanatic. I'm sure you will settle down soon enough and be a fine addition in Rossi's fan club

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 14 2010, 04:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course I rate them highly. JB took Gardner to 1 WC and Doohan to 5 WC's and now Rossi to 7 WC's. Is there anyone more successful than JB in MotoGP?


If Rossi had stuck it out with the manufacture who had delivered him so many good times rather than jump ship after one bad season and tried to 'develop' Michelin back to the front than yes a control tyre would probably not have been necessary. Rossi quotes that he would feel like a traitor leaving Yamaha because it is so good being with them. Well Michelin made Rossi feel pretty bloody good every race day when his specially made race tyres arrived on race morning. But as soon as that went bad there was only dust in Rossi's wake.
So you don't consider JB to be a traitor, after all he "jumped ship" as you put it also.

When rossi switched to stones michilin were having serous internal problems as a company and were not investing the amounts needed to remain the choice tyre .winners dont hang around looser's. You didn't complain when stoner left Lcr for Ducati i bet ? your full of double standards

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Mar 14 2010, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you don't consider JB to be a traitor, after all he "jumped ship" as you put it also.

When rossi switched to stones michilin were having serous internal problems as a company and were not investing the amounts needed to remain the choice tyre .winners dont hang around looser's. You didn't complain when stoner left Lcr for Ducati i bet ? your full of double standards

Rog, if Rossi is one then so must JB. But you miss my point. I am not saying any of it is wrong. I am not saying Rossi is bad because he left Honda or Michelin. If I were him I would probably have done the same. My whole point is that Rossi says something fluffy in the media and everyone goes aaaahhh ain't he a beautiful little puppy. When the reality is that Rossi is just as cut throat as he needs to be and will dump anyone to go somewhere else without a second thought if it will give him a better chance of winning. Again nothing wrong with this just don't call him a nice little puppy!

As for your Stoner comment if you think that is the same (privateer to factory and not taking whole team as factory to factory taking whole team) then it must be a bloody cold winter up there in the good old UK because your brain has frozen up. But thanks for playing.

Once again tp you are the opitomy of idioicy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 14 2010, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My whole point is that Rossi says something fluffy in the media and everyone goes aaaahhh ain't he a beautiful little puppy. When the reality is that Rossi is just as cut throat as he needs to be and will dump anyone to go somewhere else without a second thought if it will give him a better chance of winning. Again nothing wrong with this just don't call him a nice little puppy!
No-one has said he's not as cut-throat as he needs to be - he's a racer with a serious desire to win, reflected in the fact that he is a multiple WC - you don't get there by being nice. Can't imagine even the daftest of Rossi boppers likening him to a puppy though

I thought that Tom's words in the OP summed it up really.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 12 2010, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I read this and to me its reads as exactly the kind of thing that endears us to Valentino... Even those of us that aren't fans. We all know that it can be taken as just PR and putting on a show, but at least he makes the effort and says the right things at the right time. Rossi is a clever man

Tom, (and others who think this was some extraordinary commendable statements by Rossi), other than the last compliment he paid the racers of old (which was the very last sentence) the rest of it was simply self-serving.

When I clicked on this thread, I thought Tom was being sarcastic, then I thought, Tom was giving the Boppers a bone (perhaps to increase his acceptance around here, which it looks like it worked since the Yellow Army are easily persuaded by smoke and mirrors); then I realized Tom was actually being serious, which of course upon further reflection, I was not surprised.

What exactly (other than saying the dudes from yesteryear had big balls--yeah no ....) was so gracious or brilliant about his statements? All of which I read as self serving, especially his statement of saying going to Ducati would make him feel like a "traitor" (interesting choice of words btw). I guess the Boppers have selectively forgot that he has been very public to the point of unprofessional (and in most cases, a breach of code of conduct) to have been courting Ducati publicly when it seemed Yamaha were giving, what Rossi considered, undue support to Lorenzo. Did we all forget when Rossi publicly spoke about his teammate's role and standing in regards to factory Yamaha (reminds me of how Pedrosa's camp treated Hayden) after Lorenzo had been given a new Yamaha contract? Rossi was making very ungracious statements publicly and using a page out of Lorenzo's leveraging by using Ducati as a lever arm to put the squeeze on Yamaha. But unlike Lorenzo, who was just trying to get a contract, Rossi used that lever to get not only a contract, but partly to subvert the threat of his teammate's success on the track (dastardly and decidedly 'ungracious').

Did you guys miss the point here? Rossi says he "vowed" to stop talking about his future employer...then didn't miss an opportunity to talk about it the first moment somebody puts a microphone in his grill. (perhaps not gracious, but certainly not keeping his word)

Ah, and Rossi never misses an opportunity to take a dig at Biaggi & Sete allude to their lack of preperation (and why not, this is the equivalent of giving a shout out to the Boppers who have followed his lead of making those two great riders out to be villains).


An his comments about him "enjoying the sport" again. Let me give you my translation; 'I'm again getting it my way.' And his renewed "feeling very good with them [Yamaha]" well I recall he was talking .... about them when they renewed Lorenzo's contract. (speaking of backstabbing--a form of traitor).

I agree, the man is "brilliant" in many ways. One of which is being a great cult figure...by design.

Am I off topic? Am I hating? Read the article again, this time without the Yellow tint on those classes.

....hey somebody pass the popcorn...beer is cold.....1.2.3....go!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tom, (and others who think this was some extraordinary commendable statements by Rossi), other than the last compliment he paid the racers of old (which was the very last sentence) the rest of it was simply self-serving.

When I clicked on this thread, I thought Tom was being sarcastic, then I though, Tom was giving the Boppers a bone (perhaps to increase his acceptance around here, which it looks like it worked since the Yellow Army are easily persuaded by smoke and mirrors); then I realized Tom was actually being serious, which of course upon further reflection, I was not surprised.

What exactly (other than saying the dudes from yesteryear had big balls--yeah no ....) was so gracious about his statements? All of which I read as self serving, especially his statement of saying going to Ducati would make him feel like a "traitor" (interesting choice of words btw). I guess the Boppers have selectively forgot that he has been very public to the point of unprofessional (and in most cases, a breach of code of conduct) to have been courting Ducati publicly when it seemed Yamaha were giving, what Rossi considered, undue support to Lorenzo. Did we all forget when Rossi publicly spoke about his teammate's role and standing in regards to factory Yamaha (reminds me of how Pedrosa's camp treated Hayden) after Lorenzo had been given a new Yamaha contract? Rossi was making very ungracious statements publicly and using a page out of Lorenzo's leveraging by using Ducati as a lever arm to but the squeeze on Yamaha. But unlike Lorenzo, who was just trying to get a contract, Rossi used that lever to get not only a contract, but partly to subvert the threat of his teammate's success on the track (dastardly and decidedly 'ungracious').

You mostly are a good 'other side of the coin' opinion Jumkie. But then you fall exactly in what you criticize a lot:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Did you guys miss the point here? Rossi says he "vowed" to stop talking about his future employer...then didn't miss an opportunity to talk about it the first moment somebody puts a microphone in his grill. (perhaps not gracious, but certainly not keeping his word)

They were answers to 'Straight' out questions from the media. Did you wanted Rossi to say 'No Comments'? It cannot be done when you're up there Jumks; either you are no seeing this or more likely dancing twist!

So Rossi may not want to talk about his future, but as a Public Figure he 'Has' to answer respective questions no matter what.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah, and Rossi never misses an opportunity to take a dig at Biaggi & Sete allude to their lack of preperation (and why not, this is the equivalent of giving a should out to the Boppers who have followed his lead of making those two great riders out to be villains).

I even think that for example, if Pedrosa (part of the top 4) wasn´t running anymore, Rossi would take a dig at him too. And why not? They are out of it. If he 'Digged' at Hayden (actually running), would not be well seen, would it? Why would you want not to be seen with at least a bit of respect?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>An his comments about him "enjoying the sport" again. Let me give you my translation; 'I'm again getting it my way.' And his renewed "feeling very good with them [Yamaha]" well I recall he was talking .... about them when they renewed Lorenzo's contract. (speaking of backstabbing--a form of traitor).

Well of course, but the best part is that now Lorenzo can have his own data!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Am I off topic? Am I hating? Read the article again, this time without the Yellow tint on those classes.

No, you are full of Rossi Love! Just to hard of a bone to roar on! (It's a joke bro ).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L8Braker @ Mar 15 2010, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....hey somebody pass the popcorn...beer is cold.....1.2.3....go!
....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Mar 15 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They were answers to 'Straight' out questions from the media. <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%Did you wanted Rossi to say 'No Comments'? It cannot be done when you're up there Jumks; either you are no seeing this or more likely dancing twist!

So Rossi may not want to talk about his future, but as a Public Figure he <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'Has' to answer respective questions no matter what.
yes....just say no comment & move on... it's easy to do... politicians do it all the time & we know what a politician rossi is... but then again politicians always end up doin what they say they won't
he does not have to answer anything he does not want to. take yer glasses off v...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Mar 15 2010, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You mostly are a good 'other side of the coin' opinion Jumkie. But then you fall exactly in what you criticize a lot:

Show me how I missed the point lf that article.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>They were answers to 'Straight' out questions from the media. Did you wanted Rossi to say 'No Comments'? It cannot be done when you're up there Jumks; either you are no seeing this or more likely dancing twist!

You're spinning his response. Why vow not to speak about his future then? No .... people are gonna ask him questions. How many answers do you think Rossi gave reporters when they asked him tax questions? So he does have the ability to wave off question, right? You're giving him a pass V. The man said he wouldn't talk about it in the public domain because not only had it become unprofessional, but like most professional athletes with a contract, they are not suppose to talk to employer's competitors. (I could only imagine the tizzy by the Boppers if Casy broke his word publicly). Its very common practice to have loyalty clauses in contracts (I'm sure this isn't news to you). The fact that he had to vow not to talk about prospective employers should tell you something about the how ridiculous his public negotiations had become. In most normal cases an athlete with a contract would be sanctioned and even fined for talking in public about possible employment with a competitor (and it would apply to Rossi if it weren’t for his crazy-person cult following). We already went over this V. The conclusion by most non-yellow glass wearing Rossi fans (a rarity) had conceded that his public whining about Lorenzo and his possible move to Ducati was underhanded.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>So Rossi may not want to talk about his future, but as a Public Figure he 'Has' to answer respective questions no matter what.

Oh? Yeah, I guess that doesn't apply to tax evasion. I guess he can apply this public figure rule as it pleases the Boppers, eh?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Well of course, but the best part is that now Lorenzo can have his own data! Irrelevant my friend. Stick to the issue. The man was trying to squeeze his teammate out and tell his employer who they should and should not hire.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>No, you are full of Rossi Love! Just to hard of a bone to roar on! (It's a joke bro ).
Yes, I already told you, I love Rossi. Its even in my sig buddy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tom, (and others who think this was some extraordinary commendable statements by Rossi), o

No, I don't think it was anything extraordinary about Rossi's statement, and I suspect neither did Tom. In fact it was quite a typical statement coming from Rossi,

I'm a bit surprised that you do your usual 1 page rant and base it on a faulty premises. What make you believe that there is a contradiction between feeling like a traitor for leaving and the critical statements up front? Is it so hard to see that someone could do as they think is best and still feel guilty about it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Show me how I missed the point lf that article.

One thing is to claim that you won't talk about something; other is not to answer direct questions. Rossi could bring his future up every other second, in every interview no matter where they were headed. Still, I am with you… 'The other side of the coin's good' opinion: Rossi will be talking about his future no doubt, more so as Silly Season grows. As much as any other Rider can say they will not complain and the first thing that pops out will be just that, complaining. <u>Added Note: I was thinking Pedrosa here!</u>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're spinning his response. Why vow not to speak about his future then? No .... people are gonna ask him questions. How many answers do you think Rossi gave reporters when they asked him tax questions? So he does have the ability to wave off question, right? You're giving him a pass V. The man said he wouldn't talk about it in the public domain because not only had it become unprofessional, but like most professional athletes with a contract, they are not suppose to talk to employer's competitors. (I could only imagine the tizzy by the Boppers if Casy broke his word publicly). Its very common practice to have loyalty clauses in contracts (I'm sure this isn't news to you). The fact that he had to vow not to talk about prospective employers should tell you something about the how ridiculous his public negotiations had become. In most normal cases an athlete with a contract would be sanctioned and even fined for talking in public about possible employment with a competitor (and it would apply to Rossi if it weren't for his crazy-person cult following). We already went over this V. The conclusion by most non-yellow glass wearing Rossi fans (a rarity) had conceded that his public whining about Lorenzo and his possible move to Ducati was underhanded.

Oh? Yeah, I guess that doesn't apply to tax evasion. I guess he can apply this public figure rule as it pleases the Boppers, eh?

About Taxes, I guess Rossi prefers neither, be mentioning it or to be asked, then again I care about MotoGp, if not I would be criticizing all politicians… Wait, I always do that!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 15 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Irrelevant my friend. Stick to the issue. The man was trying to squeeze his teammate out and tell his employer who they should and should not hire.

Yet the Employers still hired Lorenzo, and now he can have his own data, the question (a bit relevant) is why isn't Lorenzo Happy now?