Is there a more reviled figure in GP than Puig

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 4 2010, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I realize it's easy to misinterpret my posts especially with my history as stoners biggest fan........

I wasn't actually trying to detract stoner here but defend doohan. What mighty mick did on those 500s with his busted leg and his hand operated rear brake is the stuff of legend. CS has a very long way to go before comparisons can be drawn. In a thread full of great posts this was just one overstatement which I felt should have been corrected, not for Caseys sake but for doohans. Our longer term memories can be hard to access.......just ask bunny!!
I would accept that another reason stoner would probably not dominate like doohan is that it looks unlikely at this stage that he is as good as doohan.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Apr 3 2010, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thread is good too, about time we had something decent to discuss
Its a good read, despite ur thrice attempt at making it a 'stoner sucks' thread...just stick to the topic or be quiet honey.

I echo Arri, JohnnyK & Geos sentiments. I can think of a grip of leaders & execs that wer effective, doesnt mean they wer correct and/or indispensible. Puig has a powerful friend in Carmelo. .... Puig!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Apr 4 2010, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My question is that when young riders in Australia, the states and the UK make a splash in their domestic Moto2 series (when they form) will they push for a ride in the Moto2 World Championship or be promoted internally to superbikes?
Which brings up another question. Currently the path to moto gp is a moto 2 while the path to a sbk is also a 600cc motorcycle. Are the characteristics of a moto 2 bike that much more different than a supersport? Who's to say a WSS champion is less qualified than a moto 2 champ. I can't see a SS rider going straight to motogp but the moto 2 riders will get that chance. What will the new standard of promotion be.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 5 2010, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its a good read, despite ur thrice attempt at making it a 'stoner sucks' thread...just stick to the topic or be quiet honey.
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Having trouble with your glasses again.....try reading the posts first and you will find them pro-doohan not anti-stoner.......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 5 2010, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Which brings up another question. Currently the path to moto gp is a moto 2 while the path to a sbk is also a 600cc motorcycle. Are the characteristics of a moto 2 bike that much more different than a supersport? Who's to say a WSS champion is less qualified than a moto 2 champ. I can't see a SS rider going straight to motogp but the moto 2 riders will get that chance. What will the new standard of promotion be.

That is absolutely one of the most interesting questions of the next few years. And I don't think we know the answer to it yet. I think at least it will see riders change between the WSBK and MotoGP paddocks more freely.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 5 2010, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Which brings up another question. Currently the path to moto gp is a moto 2 while the path to a sbk is also a 600cc motorcycle. Are the characteristics of a moto 2 bike that much more different than a supersport? Who's to say a WSS champion is less qualified than a moto 2 champ. I can't see a SS rider going straight to motogp but the moto 2 riders will get that chance. What will the new standard of promotion be.
I would say at the current time, Moto2 riders will have a leg up for more reasons than just nationality. The Moto 2 bikes will require a riding style that is all about corner speed, like GP with the 800's.Like Kropotkin said, he expects the Moto2 bikes to catch and supass the WSS bikes in performance even though they produce 25 less hp. Once the switch back to 1000's is made. it will then be all about nationality

My personal opinion is that we will see more cases of young SS riders in WSS or in the UK or the states or Aus getting poached by a World Championship Moto2 team before they get promoted to superbikes. Cal Crutchlow is the case in point, had Yamaha not held him to his contract, surely he'd be riding Moto2 at Gresini with Elias.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 5 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would say at the current time, Moto2 riders will have a leg up for more reasons than just nationality. The Moto 2 bikes will require a riding style that is all about corner speed, like GP with the 800's.Like Kropotkin said, he expects the Moto2 bikes to catch and supass the WSS bikes in performance even though they produce 25 less hp. Once the switch back to 1000's is made. it will then be all about nationality
I thought about that as well. When we had the 990's the SBK guys were better suited to make the jump than the 250 riders. That all changed with the 800's but in theory things should switch back when they change to 1000 again. I guess it all depends on the characteristics of the new 1000 and how much a role electronics is going to play in taming the beast. Are they going to have buck wild 990 type power delivery or are we getting the big brother version of the 800's.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 5 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought about that as well. When we had the 990's the SBK guys were better suited to make the jump than the 250 riders. That all changed with the 800's but in theory things should switch back when they change to 1000 again. I guess it all depends on the characteristics of the new 1000 and how much a role electronics is going to play in taming the beast. Are they going to have buck wild 990 type power delivery or are we getting the big brother version of the 800's.
Hopefully, the buck wild edition!

The link between moto2 and motogp is in the similar tracks and the chassis adjustment. Going through the apprenticeship in moto2 will put a rider right into the thick of the normal problems of getting the big bikes to perform at 10 10ths where riding a SS600 will not. Power certainly at this stage won't prepare them as much as I'd hoped. Maybe that will be adjusted if the 125's lap faster.