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Hoffman Sacked! - Confirmed

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 18 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]91528[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

KRJr stopped racing because he's riding the worst honda on the grid.. it's only fair!

And your point is?

Kurtis' clutch disintegrated into a million pieces. That is much different than coming in and saying, just don't feel like riding my bike today.

And so what if Hoffman is riding the worst spec Ducati? How is this relevant?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Sep 18 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]91556[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
And your point is?

Kurtis' clutch disintegrated into a million pieces. That is much different than coming in and saying, just don't feel like riding my bike today.

And so what if Hoffman is riding the worst spec Ducati? How is this relevant?

think he is talking about kenny jnr not kurtis mate.
but kenny jnr didnt do it mid race, he had more respect than that for his team mates.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 18 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]91563[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
think he is talking about kenny jnr not kurtis mate.
but kenny jnr didnt do it mid race, he had more respect than that for his team mates.


Oh I understand, I mis-read. Ok, well again, as you pointed out, he at least had the professional decency to get a replacement, albeit his little brother.

Once you start the race, you gotta finish. If after the finish you still feel like quitting, then you can come in, hand the bike to the mechanic, walk into the office of the owner and tell him you quit. But doing it on the track is unforgivable.
 
What the hell? So not finishing one race is worse than not wanting to finish the entire season?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 19 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]91716[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What the hell? So not finishing one race is worse than not wanting to finish the entire season?

If you took the time to read through my posts this thread and still have to ask this question, it would be a waste of time explaining further. You obviously don't understand.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 19 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]91716[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What the hell? So not finishing one race is worse than not wanting to finish the entire season?

well put it this way, if i want to resign from work i have to give one months notice. this is to allow my employer to find a replacement.
to just walk off the job is totally unprofessional and this should not be tolerated at this level.
kenny jnr gave his team notice and made sure the replacement was ready (i think).
the hoff on the other hand pulled out for no good reason,this ment that all the work and expense that goes with shipping his sorry ... and bike ect was for nothing. i think most bosses would fire you for this kind of thing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 19 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]91720[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
well put it this way

You are much more patient than I am.
 
im not justifying hoffmans engine... so what if KrJr gave 1 months notice? Was hoffman meant to give 1 months notice that he was gonna stop that race? Did the team give him one months sacking notice?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 19 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]91743[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
im not justifying hoffmans engine... so what if KrJr gave 1 months notice? Was hoffman meant to give 1 months notice that he was gonna stop that race? Did the team give him one months sacking notice?

Lord have mercy.
 
I dont see what you guys have against hoffman... id be pretty pissed off if i found out id been replaced by the guy who caused me to miss several races... and a lot of points for both pramac and hoff
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 19 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]91754[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I dont see what you guys have against hoffman... id be pretty pissed off if i found out id been replaced by the guy who caused me to miss several races... and a lot of points for both pramac and hoff

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>im not justifying hoffmans engine... so what if KrJr gave 1 months notice? Was hoffman meant to give 1 months notice that he was gonna stop that race? Did the team give him one months sacking notice?
i have nothing against the hoff, but i think his employers were left no choice but to sack him with immediate effect.
if they had not,think about the message that sends out to others on the team. what would happen if a mechanic didn't finish putting his bike back together the night before because he couldn't be bothered, does he deserve the boot or the lorry driver couldn't be bothered to take all the stuff to the track on time because he couldn't be arsed. it does not matter if your the tea lady or the rider, your there to do your job and fulfill the contract you signed,,end of.
 
i didnt mean hoffmans engine i ment hoffmans actions
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little embaressed about that.

Sure, i agree that Hoffman was bad to retire, but sacking him is a bit ott. I mean, if the lorry driver couldnt be bothered, that would ruin the whole teams progress. Hoffman isnt even the number 1 rider, barros is. He wasn't doing well in the race, and could well of been in agony. It wouldnt really be fair of them to force him to ride even though in pain..
 
^^^

I guess the Lord is too busy with all his legal problems to have time to hand out common sense.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 20 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]91858[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
He wasn't doing well in the race, and could well of been in agony. It wouldnt really be fair of them to force him to ride even though in pain..


Plenty of other riders are dediacted enough to ride through the pain, Melandri being just one example.
And Hoffman didn't even use that as an excuse anyway.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 20 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]91858[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Sure, i agree that Hoffman was bad to retire, but sacking him is a bit ott. I
no it's not.... he got exactly what he deservered! what every quiter deserves... the boot!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Sep 20 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]91885[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
^^^

I guess the Lord is too busy with all his legal problems to have time to hand out common sense.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pirkkalan GP @ Sep 17 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]91051[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
6th in formula xtreme and a dnf in supersport. We can't have another rider getting a lucky call up midseason to motogp now can we? He might even get prematurely signed up on a permanent basis!

He injured his elbow in test, got infected and was in hospital but still raced. Anyone know why dnf?


Davis or hoffmann (token brit or token krt) who gives a sht - pramac won't be on the podium with either of them. i think d'antin is right to fire him - ha[ppens all the time in the rest of life to people who refuise to do their job. but he should be replaced with somebody good not just another national token
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ptk50 @ Sep 21 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]92108[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Davis or hoffmann (token brit or token krt) who gives a sht - pramac won't be on the podium with either of them. i think d'antin is right to fire him - ha[ppens all the time in the rest of life to people who refuise to do their job. but he should be replaced with somebody good not just another national token


If Pramac want podiums they need to do what Yamaha are for 2008 get some experienced world superbike champs on the second string bikes
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