Unmotivated fine but you just dont quit
But...........
There are only 4 races left giving him the ... now is a bit harsh.
But...........
There are only 4 races left giving him the ... now is a bit harsh.
Hoffman Sacked! - Confirmed
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I'd be surprisd if he doesn't end up on the WSBK grid next year. He has been sniffing around there at a few races.
Pretty poor form to give up mid race but then again, if his mind isn't on the job then he was likely to get injured yet again!
Overall 2/10 decision in my books!
I wonder what Motoliam might have to say about this?! ... the team have probably told him not to comment!
Pretty poor form to give up mid race but then again, if his mind isn't on the job then he was likely to get injured yet again!
Overall 2/10 decision in my books!
I wonder what Motoliam might have to say about this?! ... the team have probably told him not to comment!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BEN @ Sep 17 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]91059[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I've merged the two topics about Hoffman.
Just had confirmation that he has been released from his contract!
Where have you read the confirmation of his release. I can't find the or a link...
I've merged the two topics about Hoffman.
Just had confirmation that he has been released from his contract!
Where have you read the confirmation of his release. I can't find the or a link...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rickyduck @ Sep 17 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]91053[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Believe me, Hoffmans very motivated.. he's been one of my favorite racers for a long time, not just because of his racing but also because he's probably the nicest guy in the paddock.
Also, Hoffmans the only german rider, and he does have quite a large german fanbase - this one time, at a pramac show day thing (pramac is a generator for those who don't know) Hoffman was there doing signings (another reason to show he's motivated, doing stuff for the team sponsor.. Barros wasn't there) and the amount of Germans who went up to him querying about motogp was unbelievable.
No guy in the motogp paddock is unmotivated.
Don't forgot, he nearly lost his hand a few weeks back.
I agree, Pramac didn’t treat the Hoff right and wanted to get rid of him anyway! And I would be pretty pissed off too if the team that I brought such a large fan base to, gave my job to the fool (Silvan Guintoli) that nearly took my hand off!!! That is what the Hoff was really upset, pissed off about! And he only found this out on Saturday!!! btw: Fully fit the Hoff would kick Silvans arse on any track on any day!!!
Believe me, Hoffmans very motivated.. he's been one of my favorite racers for a long time, not just because of his racing but also because he's probably the nicest guy in the paddock.
Also, Hoffmans the only german rider, and he does have quite a large german fanbase - this one time, at a pramac show day thing (pramac is a generator for those who don't know) Hoffman was there doing signings (another reason to show he's motivated, doing stuff for the team sponsor.. Barros wasn't there) and the amount of Germans who went up to him querying about motogp was unbelievable.
No guy in the motogp paddock is unmotivated.
Don't forgot, he nearly lost his hand a few weeks back.
I agree, Pramac didn’t treat the Hoff right and wanted to get rid of him anyway! And I would be pretty pissed off too if the team that I brought such a large fan base to, gave my job to the fool (Silvan Guintoli) that nearly took my hand off!!! That is what the Hoff was really upset, pissed off about! And he only found this out on Saturday!!! btw: Fully fit the Hoff would kick Silvans arse on any track on any day!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MigsAngel @ Sep 17 2007, 08:46 AM) [snapback]91062[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Where have you read the confirmation of his release. I can't find the or a link...
I get team press releases
PRAMAC-D´ANTIN RELEASES ALEX HOFMANN FROM CONTRACT
After the Grand Prix of Portugal, during which Alex Hofmann entered the pit boxes with 17 laps remaining, and said, “I don´t have the motivation to fight for the last positions”, the Team management of Pramac-d´Antin have decided to release Hofmann from his contractual obligations for the remainder of the 2007 MotoGP season.
The last four races in the MotoGP World Championship will see a substitute rider in place of Hofmann, who will be named within a few days in a following press release.
Where have you read the confirmation of his release. I can't find the or a link...
I get team press releases
PRAMAC-D´ANTIN RELEASES ALEX HOFMANN FROM CONTRACT
After the Grand Prix of Portugal, during which Alex Hofmann entered the pit boxes with 17 laps remaining, and said, “I don´t have the motivation to fight for the last positions”, the Team management of Pramac-d´Antin have decided to release Hofmann from his contractual obligations for the remainder of the 2007 MotoGP season.
The last four races in the MotoGP World Championship will see a substitute rider in place of Hofmann, who will be named within a few days in a following press release.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BEN @ Sep 17 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]91065[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I get team press releases
PRAMAC-D´ANTIN RELEASES ALEX HOFMANN FROM CONTRACT
After the Grand Prix of Portugal, during which Alex Hofmann entered the pit boxes with 17 laps remaining, and said, “I don´t have the motivation to fight for the last positions”, the Team management of Pramac-d´Antin have decided to release Hofmann from his contractual obligations for the remainder of the 2007 MotoGP season.
The last four races in the MotoGP World Championship will see a substitute rider in place of Hofmann, who will be named within a few days in a following press release.
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
I get team press releases
PRAMAC-D´ANTIN RELEASES ALEX HOFMANN FROM CONTRACT
After the Grand Prix of Portugal, during which Alex Hofmann entered the pit boxes with 17 laps remaining, and said, “I don´t have the motivation to fight for the last positions”, the Team management of Pramac-d´Antin have decided to release Hofmann from his contractual obligations for the remainder of the 2007 MotoGP season.
The last four races in the MotoGP World Championship will see a substitute rider in place of Hofmann, who will be named within a few days in a following press release.
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(basspete @ Sep 17 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]91079[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
Pretty much nailed it there Pete.
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
Pretty much nailed it there Pete.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(basspete @ Sep 17 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]91079[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
I agree, but I think that D'Antin was just looking for a good excuse to get rid of him. The Hoff gave Luis the excuse, and so the German's MotoGP career (and possibly his International racing career) is at an end.
Saying you dont have motovation to fight for last is very different to saying you dont have any motovation IMO. Even proven winners like Cadalora and Lil John have pulled in (or even "allegedly" blown their bike up) when they get frustrated.
KRJR has (allegedly) elected to sit it out rather than bang his head off a wall this year.
Racers want to win, and frustration at going around making up numbers cant be good for them. Still, they get paid to race whatever, so I say......give the bike to Chaz!
Pete
Pete
I agree, but I think that D'Antin was just looking for a good excuse to get rid of him. The Hoff gave Luis the excuse, and so the German's MotoGP career (and possibly his International racing career) is at an end.
Chaz has now been confirmed as the hopeful replacement rider for Motegi.
about bloody time i say.
i still thought that silva was the contraced replacement but he must be busy.
Chaz has tested the bike already and i really hope he does well
link
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62509
about bloody time i say.
i still thought that silva was the contraced replacement but he must be busy.
Chaz has tested the bike already and i really hope he does well
link
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62509
Why is anyone surprised. He didn't have a ride with them for next year and he's come in and said I can't be bothered riding for last place. The fact is Hofmann was a very ordinary GP rider. He never gave any indication that he would ever challenge anyone above the top 9. No loss IMO.
As far as giving D'antin an excuse to sack him he certainly gave them the best excuse they could have wanted. Does anyone expect Davies to place higher than Hofmann could have in the remaining rounds? I doubt it. So where is the advantage for D'antin? There isn't any I can see. From all the press releases it doesn't even look as though Davies will get the ride next year.
A young kid like Davies would kill to race that bike. Good riddance to ordinary rubbish.
As far as giving D'antin an excuse to sack him he certainly gave them the best excuse they could have wanted. Does anyone expect Davies to place higher than Hofmann could have in the remaining rounds? I doubt it. So where is the advantage for D'antin? There isn't any I can see. From all the press releases it doesn't even look as though Davies will get the ride next year.
A young kid like Davies would kill to race that bike. Good riddance to ordinary rubbish.
vale4607, did Hoffmann steal your girlfriend or something?
I never would have thought someone could have such passionate feelings about Hoffmann, positive or negative.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>btw: Fully fit the Hoff would kick Silvans arse on any track on any day!!!
Sorry, but no chance. Hoffmann has been fit for most of this year, and has failed to impress completely. I was a big fan of giving Hoffers another chance and that he was a good rider but it was the bike, but Barros has comprehensively outridden him at every single track this year. Barros has shown what the Pramac bike is capable of, Hoffmann hasn't even gotten near that. Guintoli has gone above what the Dunlop-shod Tech3 is capable of this year in my opinion, and I'd expect top tens from him next year in Pramac.
I never would have thought someone could have such passionate feelings about Hoffmann, positive or negative.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>btw: Fully fit the Hoff would kick Silvans arse on any track on any day!!!
Sorry, but no chance. Hoffmann has been fit for most of this year, and has failed to impress completely. I was a big fan of giving Hoffers another chance and that he was a good rider but it was the bike, but Barros has comprehensively outridden him at every single track this year. Barros has shown what the Pramac bike is capable of, Hoffmann hasn't even gotten near that. Guintoli has gone above what the Dunlop-shod Tech3 is capable of this year in my opinion, and I'd expect top tens from him next year in Pramac.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Sep 17 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]91110[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
vale4607, did Hoffmann steal your girlfriend or something?
I never would have thought someone could have such passionate feelings about Hoffmann, positive or negative.
Sorry, but no chance. Hoffmann has been fit for most of this year, and has failed to impress completely. I was a big fan of giving Hoffers another chance and that he was a good rider but it was the bike, but Barros has comprehensively outridden him at every single track this year. Barros has shown what the Pramac bike is capable of, Hoffmann hasn't even gotten near that. Guintoli has gone above what the Dunlop-shod Tech3 is capable of this year in my opinion, and I'd expect top tens from him next year in Pramac.
Just another guy taking up a seat, had his shot and I'm tired of seeing the same .... year in year out. He did a crap job and the final straw was pulling in on Sunday. Luckily for you and everyone else this thread will hopefully be the last we mention of Hofmann.
Don't get me started on Barros, I believe whatever bike he is on is capable of more. Hopefully he won't be back either.
All I want is the best guys racing in the best championship. 08 is looking like it will have 9-10 world champions racing around. Thats what I'm talkin' about!!!!!
vale4607, did Hoffmann steal your girlfriend or something?
I never would have thought someone could have such passionate feelings about Hoffmann, positive or negative.
Sorry, but no chance. Hoffmann has been fit for most of this year, and has failed to impress completely. I was a big fan of giving Hoffers another chance and that he was a good rider but it was the bike, but Barros has comprehensively outridden him at every single track this year. Barros has shown what the Pramac bike is capable of, Hoffmann hasn't even gotten near that. Guintoli has gone above what the Dunlop-shod Tech3 is capable of this year in my opinion, and I'd expect top tens from him next year in Pramac.
Just another guy taking up a seat, had his shot and I'm tired of seeing the same .... year in year out. He did a crap job and the final straw was pulling in on Sunday. Luckily for you and everyone else this thread will hopefully be the last we mention of Hofmann.
Don't get me started on Barros, I believe whatever bike he is on is capable of more. Hopefully he won't be back either.
All I want is the best guys racing in the best championship. 08 is looking like it will have 9-10 world champions racing around. Thats what I'm talkin' about!!!!!
......This misconception about Barros is starting to irritate me. One more time for the slow learners:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Sep 18 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]91120[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
......This misconception about Barros is starting to irritate me. One more time for the slow learners:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
Thanks for the lesson. So Barros is great? He is in front of Elias, now why was Elias out for so many races? So Barros has managed to keep in front of De Puniet, the absolute best crasher I've ever seen on a factory machine. Is there anyone else worth mentioning?
The point is Barros gave his full potential years ago. There was a very good reason no one hired him after his year on the factory Honda. D'antin expected more and the 20 year veteran hasn't delivered. If he gets another ride it will be the same result, how could anyone expect any different.
Any reason to keep him around?
......This misconception about Barros is starting to irritate me. One more time for the slow learners:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
Thanks for the lesson. So Barros is great? He is in front of Elias, now why was Elias out for so many races? So Barros has managed to keep in front of De Puniet, the absolute best crasher I've ever seen on a factory machine. Is there anyone else worth mentioning?
The point is Barros gave his full potential years ago. There was a very good reason no one hired him after his year on the factory Honda. D'antin expected more and the 20 year veteran hasn't delivered. If he gets another ride it will be the same result, how could anyone expect any different.
Any reason to keep him around?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Sep 17 2007, 03:18 PM) [snapback]91120[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
......This misconception about Barros is starting to irritate me. One more time for the slow learners:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
Well put IR, not very subtle, but very well put!
I'm with you on this, if Barros is still the top privateer, then why shouldn't he ride? Sure, he's never been the world champ, and isnt going to be, but how many others are in the same situation? Should we dump everyone who isnt a past or present champ? No cause it would just get silly, if he was riding around, off the back by half a minute, I would say get shot of him, but he's not.
Pete
......This misconception about Barros is starting to irritate me. One more time for the slow learners:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_res...tm?menu=results
Barros is tenth. This makes him (except Marco) the top privateer in MotoGP. Top. Privateer. Only factory riders have more points than him. Out of the guys on private bikes, he is first. He's top of the privateer table. Consider private and works like two seperate tables, because budget and support wise they are. Now consider that Barros is leading that table, because Marco's bike is semi-factory anyway. It getting through now?
Well put IR, not very subtle, but very well put!
I'm with you on this, if Barros is still the top privateer, then why shouldn't he ride? Sure, he's never been the world champ, and isnt going to be, but how many others are in the same situation? Should we dump everyone who isnt a past or present champ? No cause it would just get silly, if he was riding around, off the back by half a minute, I would say get shot of him, but he's not.
Pete
Subtlety never was my strong point
And another point, if being a former champ is a reason to be on the grid, then KRJR should still be on the grid vale4607? Should still be circling around half a lap behind everyone and wondering why everyone's gone home by the time he finishes the race?
And another point, if being a former champ is a reason to be on the grid, then KRJR should still be on the grid vale4607? Should still be circling around half a lap behind everyone and wondering why everyone's gone home by the time he finishes the race?
