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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 18 2010, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/157814/1/...od_as_rossi.htm
Frosty, you dropped the 'l' a the end of the link (or they added it recently).
This link works
(Not that you need to read the article, the link's name kinda gives it away.
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Frosty, you dropped the 'l' a the end of the link (or they added it recently).
This link works
(Not that you need to read the article, the link's name kinda gives it away.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Mar 18 2010, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sure Mladin is going to speak so highly of Spies. Mat beat Ben a time or two, this just feeds Mladin own ego...
That's exactly what I think! In a way, it makes Mladin enjoy a bit of limelight, and makes himself relevant. Makes his lack of moving to the world scene even more laughable; even though I agree, Spies is one of the best riders in the world, undoubtedly on the best MotoGP machine.
That's exactly what I think! In a way, it makes Mladin enjoy a bit of limelight, and makes himself relevant. Makes his lack of moving to the world scene even more laughable; even though I agree, Spies is one of the best riders in the world, undoubtedly on the best MotoGP machine.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 19 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>EGO!!! c'mon matt ain't got no ego...... jeeeezzz...
There's some pretty distinct "Mat Hate" that comes out from the US ....... I can kinda understand it, he's been pretty prolific, usually at the cost of the locals.
But I think Mladin just calls a "spade a spade" ( he's from a pretty "spady" part of the country here
) and genuinely believes Spies is special. He certainly is in a position to declare it.
There's some pretty distinct "Mat Hate" that comes out from the US ....... I can kinda understand it, he's been pretty prolific, usually at the cost of the locals.
But I think Mladin just calls a "spade a spade" ( he's from a pretty "spady" part of the country here
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the only reason Matt is saying this is because only the best in the world could have beat him.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 19 2010, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the only reason Matt is saying this is because only the best in the world could have beat him.
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No I think your type of reaction shows just the type of tools that are out there.
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
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No I think your type of reaction shows just the type of tools that are out there.
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 18 2010, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>waiting, waiting, waiting
And BAM, there it is, at 7:02 AND 7:11. I am surprised however that anyone beat Jumkie to the point.
And BAM, there it is, at 7:02 AND 7:11. I am surprised however that anyone beat Jumkie to the point.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 18 2010, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No I think your type of reaction shows just the type of tools that are out there.
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
unlike aholes like you.. i like and dis like people for their substance not because of some ....... stupid national pride ...........
for example.. Stoner=....., cry baby, faker, ......... Gardner=all man, all balls, all guts, cool mofo...both aussy imagine that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
another one.. back in the King Kenny Roberts vs Barry Sheene battles... i liked Sheene more because he was a cool dude compared o King who was and still is a bit of a ...... bag.
so take youre national pride .... and cram it back up your ...
Matt is one of the best riders in the world..but is a tool.. like you
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
unlike aholes like you.. i like and dis like people for their substance not because of some ....... stupid national pride ...........
for example.. Stoner=....., cry baby, faker, ......... Gardner=all man, all balls, all guts, cool mofo...both aussy imagine that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
another one.. back in the King Kenny Roberts vs Barry Sheene battles... i liked Sheene more because he was a cool dude compared o King who was and still is a bit of a ...... bag.
so take youre national pride .... and cram it back up your ...
Matt is one of the best riders in the world..but is a tool.. like you
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 19 2010, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>unlike aholes like you.. i like and dis like people for their substance not because of some ....... stupid national pride ...........
for example.. Stoner=....., cry baby, faker, ......... Gardner=all man, all balls, all guts, cool mofo...both aussy imagine that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
another one.. back in the King Kenny Roberts vs Barry Sheene battles... i liked Sheene more because he was a cool dude compared o King who was and still is a bit of a ...... bag.
so take youre national pride .... and cram it back up your ...
Curve you are one mad mofo. National pride is a good thing as long as you're an american .... everyone else lol just kiddin.
for example.. Stoner=....., cry baby, faker, ......... Gardner=all man, all balls, all guts, cool mofo...both aussy imagine that. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
another one.. back in the King Kenny Roberts vs Barry Sheene battles... i liked Sheene more because he was a cool dude compared o King who was and still is a bit of a ...... bag.
so take youre national pride .... and cram it back up your ...
Curve you are one mad mofo. National pride is a good thing as long as you're an american .... everyone else lol just kiddin.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Mar 18 2010, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Curve you are one mad mofo. National pride is a good thing as long as you're an american .... everyone else lol just kiddin.
in .... like the Olympics sure national pride whatever..but we're talking motorcycle racing and riders are all the same no matter where they're from..we're bonded by the passion of the bike, we're brothers, we're family...sept for the ..... ...... faker crybabies
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 19 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
in .... like the Olympics sure national pride whatever..but we're talking motorcycle racing and riders are all the same no matter where they're from..we're bonded by the passion of the bike, we're brothers, we're family...
oh boy!!
"Now, I'm going to drop this flag and you guys ride as fast as you can to get to that line first" ........
but don't forget on the way .......
"riders are all the same no matter where they're from..we're bonded by the passion of the bike, we're brothers, we're family".
You are funny Curve.... passionate about something ....... but funny
oh boy!!
"Now, I'm going to drop this flag and you guys ride as fast as you can to get to that line first" ........
but don't forget on the way .......
"riders are all the same no matter where they're from..we're bonded by the passion of the bike, we're brothers, we're family".
You are funny Curve.... passionate about something ....... but funny
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 18 2010, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No I think your type of reaction shows just the type of tools that are out there.
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
Barry, you must be having a laugh. Most of your stuff I can understand the humor in and I see it's all a big joke, but this I don't get that sense. From this, all I get is that you know that Mladin tried his hand at GPs, went to the states, was massively successful, lost to two men who went on to win world championships, and the yanks hate. So obviously it has to be because he's not "one of us," right?
Thing of it is, at least in my experiences, Mladin being Australian wasn't why American fans disliked him. It had nothing to do with his riding, anyone who watched him over here can tell you how talented the man is. It really didn't have anything to do with him winning everything, either. What it had to do with, was Mladin being an ....... in the media with regards to other riders. Ben Bostrom is a nobody because he's too busy doing other .... and not focusing on his riding. Who's Nicky Hayden? I just won another title, look at me. Eric Bostrom is a crybaby, my GSXR1000 isn't the reason I win. Miguel Duhamel is an ........ Neil Hodgson is an ........ The AMA is out to get me, they tore apart my bike but not Ben's. I should punch Larry Pegram in the face.
I really enjoy listening to what riders who speak their minds have to say. That's why I'm such a Colin Edwards fan. But, in my opinion, riders should have respect for other riders. And Mladin rarely showed any respect for his competition. A lot of people have said Mladin was fueled by creating rivalries and I think that's exactly right. If he wasn't upset with anyone, he didn't have to motivation to beat anyone. If that's what it takes, so be it. But keep it to yourself. And if you can't keep it to yourself, then don't expect much fan support.
And as far as the consensus that US fans think AMA champs are world championship material and Mladin is the gauge, I'll only speak for myself but you're wrong there. In the past decade, the AMA has produced three riders of world championship caliber: Hayden, Spies and Mladin.
However Mladin was too busy enjoying his fat paycheck here in the states and never proved anything to anybody. So for him to be the yardstick is wrong, period. He got beat by two kids who went on to win world championships, true. But he also got beat by Ben Bostrom. Eric Bostrom gave him a pretty hard run in 2003 before Yates decided a dive up the inside of the Andretti Hairpin was a good idea and ended EBoz's season. Kurtis Roberts even had a reasonable go at Mladin. Mladin was a great rider in the AMA, and I think he could have been very successful in WSBK and probably could have had a legitimate go in grand prix. But he didn't. And his legacy isn't as glossy as some would lead you to believe.
Mladin pretty much knows he doesn't "set the world on fire" in fact its pretty clear he knows his place.
ie. he has made a pretty penny from running in the AMA series over there. He would never have done that elsewhere ..... so its his perfect niche.
Sadly there is a propensity for the USians to believe that every US AMA winner is GP winning material. Some have been but some have not. But Mat has been "the Guage" ..... if they get past Mat ..... then they have a chance. Nobody but Mladin therefore has the cred. to pass such comments about his rivals ............ certainly not a "lounge hound"
Barry, you must be having a laugh. Most of your stuff I can understand the humor in and I see it's all a big joke, but this I don't get that sense. From this, all I get is that you know that Mladin tried his hand at GPs, went to the states, was massively successful, lost to two men who went on to win world championships, and the yanks hate. So obviously it has to be because he's not "one of us," right?
Thing of it is, at least in my experiences, Mladin being Australian wasn't why American fans disliked him. It had nothing to do with his riding, anyone who watched him over here can tell you how talented the man is. It really didn't have anything to do with him winning everything, either. What it had to do with, was Mladin being an ....... in the media with regards to other riders. Ben Bostrom is a nobody because he's too busy doing other .... and not focusing on his riding. Who's Nicky Hayden? I just won another title, look at me. Eric Bostrom is a crybaby, my GSXR1000 isn't the reason I win. Miguel Duhamel is an ........ Neil Hodgson is an ........ The AMA is out to get me, they tore apart my bike but not Ben's. I should punch Larry Pegram in the face.
I really enjoy listening to what riders who speak their minds have to say. That's why I'm such a Colin Edwards fan. But, in my opinion, riders should have respect for other riders. And Mladin rarely showed any respect for his competition. A lot of people have said Mladin was fueled by creating rivalries and I think that's exactly right. If he wasn't upset with anyone, he didn't have to motivation to beat anyone. If that's what it takes, so be it. But keep it to yourself. And if you can't keep it to yourself, then don't expect much fan support.
And as far as the consensus that US fans think AMA champs are world championship material and Mladin is the gauge, I'll only speak for myself but you're wrong there. In the past decade, the AMA has produced three riders of world championship caliber: Hayden, Spies and Mladin.
However Mladin was too busy enjoying his fat paycheck here in the states and never proved anything to anybody. So for him to be the yardstick is wrong, period. He got beat by two kids who went on to win world championships, true. But he also got beat by Ben Bostrom. Eric Bostrom gave him a pretty hard run in 2003 before Yates decided a dive up the inside of the Andretti Hairpin was a good idea and ended EBoz's season. Kurtis Roberts even had a reasonable go at Mladin. Mladin was a great rider in the AMA, and I think he could have been very successful in WSBK and probably could have had a legitimate go in grand prix. But he didn't. And his legacy isn't as glossy as some would lead you to believe.
Mladin.
A straight talker, but a ....... A legend in his own lunchtime (to quote Barry Sheene)
Obviously stroking his own ego....... Spies = Rossi, meaning Mladin=Rossi!. So transparent!
Watched his videos on Youtube-one where he reckons only Rossi could hack a superbike in the USA.
Again, the ego at play= Mladin> Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Capirossi etc etc. And we all believe that!
Mladin confuses pathological hatred of his opponents with a healthy competitive spirit. Haga and Bayliss fought tooth and nail without despising each other, but with a profound respect for each others abilities
What a ....... This will be , I suspect the, ONLY time I will ever concur with Curve
A straight talker, but a ....... A legend in his own lunchtime (to quote Barry Sheene)
Obviously stroking his own ego....... Spies = Rossi, meaning Mladin=Rossi!. So transparent!
Watched his videos on Youtube-one where he reckons only Rossi could hack a superbike in the USA.
Again, the ego at play= Mladin> Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Capirossi etc etc. And we all believe that!
Mladin confuses pathological hatred of his opponents with a healthy competitive spirit. Haga and Bayliss fought tooth and nail without despising each other, but with a profound respect for each others abilities
What a ....... This will be , I suspect the, ONLY time I will ever concur with Curve
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 19 2010, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Barry, you must be having a laugh......... isn't as glossy as some would lead you to believe.
Well in that article I see nothing but praise for Spies ........ what you write about seems to suggest the guy has a lot of "baggage" ....... I see none of that in the article so I have to wonder ........ why are folk so ready to misinterpret and read into the article ....... stuff thats just not there
Nup, again its racing ..... not Sesame Street. It ain't based on a lot of "lovin", Mladin is just there to earn money and he manages that well. He isn't MGP material and he acknowledges that. But he is qualified to give Spies praise, moreso than just about anybody
And thats all he's done .......
Well in that article I see nothing but praise for Spies ........ what you write about seems to suggest the guy has a lot of "baggage" ....... I see none of that in the article so I have to wonder ........ why are folk so ready to misinterpret and read into the article ....... stuff thats just not there
Nup, again its racing ..... not Sesame Street. It ain't based on a lot of "lovin", Mladin is just there to earn money and he manages that well. He isn't MGP material and he acknowledges that. But he is qualified to give Spies praise, moreso than just about anybody
And thats all he's done .......
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 19 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well in that article I see nothing but praise for Spies ........ what you write about seems to suggest the guy has a lot of "baggage" ....... I see none of that in the article so I have to wonder ........ why are folk so ready to misinterpret and read into the article ....... stuff thats just not there
Nup, again its racing ..... not Sesame Street. It ain't based on a lot of "lovin", Mladin is just there to earn money and he manages that well. He isn't MGP material and he acknowledges that. But he is qualified to give Spies praise, moreso than just about anybody
And thats all he's done .......
You do know who Mat Mladin is, right? The man spent the better part of the past decade saying he never got a fair shake in grand prix. And that although it's where he should be, he wouldn't go unless he got a good ride.
Mladin has spent his entire career putting down other riders, upping himself and making his case as one of the best riders in the world. All the while, refusing to leave the states.
There are always elements of truth in what Mladin has to say, but there are always self-serving ideals in there as well. I'm sure he really, honestly is complimentary of Spies. But in doing so, he makes himself look better, and don't think he isn't fully aware of that.
Nup, again its racing ..... not Sesame Street. It ain't based on a lot of "lovin", Mladin is just there to earn money and he manages that well. He isn't MGP material and he acknowledges that. But he is qualified to give Spies praise, moreso than just about anybody
And thats all he's done .......
You do know who Mat Mladin is, right? The man spent the better part of the past decade saying he never got a fair shake in grand prix. And that although it's where he should be, he wouldn't go unless he got a good ride.
Mladin has spent his entire career putting down other riders, upping himself and making his case as one of the best riders in the world. All the while, refusing to leave the states.
There are always elements of truth in what Mladin has to say, but there are always self-serving ideals in there as well. I'm sure he really, honestly is complimentary of Spies. But in doing so, he makes himself look better, and don't think he isn't fully aware of that.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 18 2010, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Barry, you must be having a laugh. Most of your stuff I can understand the humor in and I see it's all a big joke, but this I don't get that sense. From this, all I get is that you know that Mladin tried his hand at GPs, went to the states, was massively successful, lost to two men who went on to win world championships, and the yanks hate. So obviously it has to be because he's not "one of us," right?
Thing of it is, at least in my experiences, Mladin being Australian wasn't why American fans disliked him. It had nothing to do with his riding, anyone who watched him over here can tell you how talented the man is. It really didn't have anything to do with him winning everything, either. What it had to do with, was Mladin being an ....... in the media with regards to other riders. Ben Bostrom is a nobody because he's too busy doing other .... and not focusing on his riding. Who's Nicky Hayden? I just won another title, look at me. Eric Bostrom is a crybaby, my GSXR1000 isn't the reason I win. Miguel Duhamel is an ........ Neil Hodgson is an ........ The AMA is out to get me, they tore apart my bike but not Ben's. I should punch Larry Pegram in the face.
I really enjoy listening to what riders who speak their minds have to say. That's why I'm such a Colin Edwards fan. But, in my opinion, riders should have respect for other riders. And Mladin rarely showed any respect for his competition. A lot of people have said Mladin was fueled by creating rivalries and I think that's exactly right. If he wasn't upset with anyone, he didn't have to motivation to beat anyone. If that's what it takes, so be it. But keep it to yourself. And if you can't keep it to yourself, then don't expect much fan support.
And as far as the consensus that US fans think AMA champs are world championship material and Mladin is the gauge, I'll only speak for myself but you're wrong there. In the past decade, the AMA has produced three riders of world championship caliber: Hayden, Spies and Mladin.
However Mladin was too busy enjoying his fat paycheck here in the states and never proved anything to anybody. So for him to be the yardstick is wrong, period. He got beat by two kids who went on to win world championships, true. But he also got beat by Ben Bostrom. Eric Bostrom gave him a pretty hard run in 2003 before Yates decided a dive up the inside of the Andretti Hairpin was a good idea and ended EBoz's season. Kurtis Roberts even had a reasonable go at Mladin. Mladin was a great rider in the AMA, and I think he could have been very successful in WSBK and probably could have had a legitimate go in grand prix. But he didn't. And his legacy isn't as glossy as some would lead you to believe.
Austin, if you keep writing like this I'm gonna start calling you Arrabbi.
Bares repeating.
Anyhoo, I recall Ben Spies (who if you met, is a reserved and respectful young man) refused to call Matt Mladin by his name and referred to him as "THAT MOTHAFUCKER!". This should be enough said, however...I'll add:
It has nothing to do with Matt's riding or psuedo-straight talk (many riders tell it like it is without the ego), all to do with his attitude and lack of respect for not just his colleagues, but the spectators; and this last part (for most people who follow the sport) could no longer be stomached.
Thing of it is, at least in my experiences, Mladin being Australian wasn't why American fans disliked him. It had nothing to do with his riding, anyone who watched him over here can tell you how talented the man is. It really didn't have anything to do with him winning everything, either. What it had to do with, was Mladin being an ....... in the media with regards to other riders. Ben Bostrom is a nobody because he's too busy doing other .... and not focusing on his riding. Who's Nicky Hayden? I just won another title, look at me. Eric Bostrom is a crybaby, my GSXR1000 isn't the reason I win. Miguel Duhamel is an ........ Neil Hodgson is an ........ The AMA is out to get me, they tore apart my bike but not Ben's. I should punch Larry Pegram in the face.
I really enjoy listening to what riders who speak their minds have to say. That's why I'm such a Colin Edwards fan. But, in my opinion, riders should have respect for other riders. And Mladin rarely showed any respect for his competition. A lot of people have said Mladin was fueled by creating rivalries and I think that's exactly right. If he wasn't upset with anyone, he didn't have to motivation to beat anyone. If that's what it takes, so be it. But keep it to yourself. And if you can't keep it to yourself, then don't expect much fan support.
And as far as the consensus that US fans think AMA champs are world championship material and Mladin is the gauge, I'll only speak for myself but you're wrong there. In the past decade, the AMA has produced three riders of world championship caliber: Hayden, Spies and Mladin.
However Mladin was too busy enjoying his fat paycheck here in the states and never proved anything to anybody. So for him to be the yardstick is wrong, period. He got beat by two kids who went on to win world championships, true. But he also got beat by Ben Bostrom. Eric Bostrom gave him a pretty hard run in 2003 before Yates decided a dive up the inside of the Andretti Hairpin was a good idea and ended EBoz's season. Kurtis Roberts even had a reasonable go at Mladin. Mladin was a great rider in the AMA, and I think he could have been very successful in WSBK and probably could have had a legitimate go in grand prix. But he didn't. And his legacy isn't as glossy as some would lead you to believe.
Austin, if you keep writing like this I'm gonna start calling you Arrabbi.
Anyhoo, I recall Ben Spies (who if you met, is a reserved and respectful young man) refused to call Matt Mladin by his name and referred to him as "THAT MOTHAFUCKER!". This should be enough said, however...I'll add:
It has nothing to do with Matt's riding or psuedo-straight talk (many riders tell it like it is without the ego), all to do with his attitude and lack of respect for not just his colleagues, but the spectators; and this last part (for most people who follow the sport) could no longer be stomached.
