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Hack MotoGP journalist David Emmett/Kropo of Motomatters discussion

Also, I'd like to revisit something you said in a post somewhere recently. You said Rossi didn't impeded Casey at LS08, but rather described it as merely "racing for position." I can't be bothered to go back and find the quotes, but I recall well enough what Rossi said about his strategy, which was in fact to employ the tactic of slowing Stoner down and disrupting his rhythm, because he explained Stoner was much faster than him and it would be the only way he could challenge. This is a tactics that if employed in the next round at Jerez by Marc (where the M1 is as expected to be strong) he would be blacked flagged. No way would we accept today by Marc against Rossi what Rossi did to disrupt Stoner in that race. I was actually in attendance, and it was clear and obvious, which was later confirmed by Rossi post race explanation, that his only chance was to obstruct and interfere with Stoner who had an obvious far superior pace. In the current era which I'd like to coin as the CUNTT RRossi era of racing: 'Cannot Use Normal Tactics To Race Rossi', what Rossi did at Laguna Seca 08 would bring about an immediate disqualification to Marc.

Consider this, had Marc employed the tactic Rossi used against Stoner at LS08, Rossi would by his own formulation of Sepang, conclude that crashing out Marc deliberately to be entirely justified. Where the overwhelmingly sentiment would be in agreement. That IS what so perverse about the new era we have now entered. Make no mistake, we have just witnessed a paradigm shift of the sport as of Argentina to COTA.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
That was the whole point of LS08 for Stoner, when he calmed down a little.

It was then he realised Rossi operated by different rules, both because of how he was treated by officialdom and because he was prepared to push things further than others and take advantage of the professionalism and ethics of others.

You can be very sure Rossi would not have contemplated the Jerez 2005 and LS 08 moves if he was racing Tony Elias. Stoner actually said he could have crashed into Rossi rather than putting his bike in the sand in the incident which put him out of contention in that race which would have helped his title chances and for which no-one could really have blamed him, but that he could not contemplate not avoiding an avoidable collision.

This is what makes Rossi’s recent stuff so hypocritical, both the LS08 Corkscrew thing and the Jerez 2011 thing, to say nothing of Sepang 2015 which was deliberate, were orders of magnitude more reckless than MM’s move on him in the recent Argentinian race.
 
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That was the whole point of LS08 for Stoner, when he calmed down a little.

It was then he realised Rossi operated by different rules, both because of how he was treated by officialdom and because he was prepared to push things further than others and take advantage of the professionalism and ethics of others.

You can be very sure Rossi would not have contemplated the Jerez 2005 and LS 08 moves if he was racing Tony Elias. Stoner actually said he could have crashed into Rossi rather than putting his bike in the sand in the incident which put him out of contention in that race which would have helped his title chances and for which no-one could really have blamed him, but that he could not contemplate not avoiding an avoidable collision.

This is what makes Rossi’s recent stuff so hypocritical, both the LS08 Corkscrew thing and the Jerez 2011 thing, to say nothing of Sepang 2015 which was deliberate, were orders of magnitude more reckless than MM’s move on him in the recent Argentinian race.

Your boy will never be a 9 time world champ of anything other than trips to the bathroom.

Stop crying.
 
MotoGP is like the WWE of the bike racing world, it's rigged in favour of the ones with the big money sponsorship and factory teams backing them. Most of the journalists don't care about anyone who isn't on a bike saying Repsol, Movistar or Ducati on it, hence the no show in the press conference at Argentina, which Cal rightly ripped them for, if I were him I'd refuse to give a single answer to any of those who never turned up ever again.
 
MotoGP is like the WWE of the bike racing world, it's rigged in favour of the ones with the big money sponsorship and factory teams backing them. Most of the journalists don't care about anyone who isn't on a bike saying Repsol, Movistar or Ducati on it, hence the no show in the press conference at Argentina, which Cal rightly ripped them for, if I were him I'd refuse to give a single answer to any of those who never turned up ever again.

It's just the natural order of things though.
Success gets the big money sponsorship, factories have the money and resources to get that.
 
Say what you will, Carmelo humbled the manufacturers.
HRC threatened to quit if spec electronics were introduced, Carmelo filled the grid with CRT bikes. HRC complied.

The amount of financial support the independent teams receive in MotoGP from Dorna is also unlike most other sports. A lot of people hate Dorna here, but they have put in a genuine effor to make this sport about the riders and giving the independents a fair chance. MotoGP could have easily gone F1 when the latter had a horrible period with barely any independent constructors and a whole bunch of ho hum manufacturers in it for marketing and not competing.
 
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Six. Incidents. In. One. Weekend.
Show me another rider who has the same record, Rossi or otherwise.

One is a mistake. Two is probably lack of concentration. Six is a pattern.

Not necessarily as each needs to firstly be looked at in isolation to review all aspects from track conditions, traffic conditions, tyre conditions, telemetry and the big one .......... who else was involved.

Sure, a number of similar incidents can look like a pattern, but they can also be a series of similar looking incidents caused by an underlying issue with bike, rider, track or any combination.

As an example, a rider consistently losing the front end into a corner (as we saw only a few years back) does not necessarily mean a rider issue but could well be a setup issue that is causing a lack of feel as to limits.

Only when one looks at each and every incident individually can patterns emerge and of course, sometimes one weekend does not mean anything short of a .... weekend for that rider (likewise a good performance does not mean a return to form).

IMO and I know the talk is Marquez but the incident of biggest concern for carelessness over his recent weekends as Asparagus not any of the others that have drawn discussion
 
If the reports are true, Asparagus tore Petrux a new one in the safety commission meeting.
Probably why the latter had a rather quiet race at Austin.
 
Your boy will never be a 9 time world champ of anything other than trips to the bathroom.

Stop crying.

I am happy with what he achieved as is he. It was a pleasure to watch him ride, even a single lap on his own.

Meanwhile your boy is consumed by bitterness in regard to not winning a 10th title he never required in the first place and revealed to anyone who has the eyes to see as manipulative hypocrite unable to give up his fame/retire in a dignified manner at age 39, and living in a bubble informed by Uccio.

As I have said, he is still a remarkably good rider given he is 39, no doubt testimony to his greatness at his peak, but he doesn’t seem to be enjoying himself overly.
 
I disagree. Although I don’t agree with him about the Argentinian incident RCV is usually prepared to argue his position rationally rather than declaring articles of faith as is characteristic of the breed to which you refer.

Disagree, he makes a claim and then expects the person he is debating with to look for the source. He also fails to quote posts where he claims things were said, because they weren't.
 
Title of thread... "Hack MotoGP journalist David Emmett/Kropo of Motomatters discussion"

18 straight pages discussing yet again Rossi/Marquez Sepang 2015. Some thing never changed here, no wonder this forum has 8 regular members..

I still wait for Livio Stuppo and Honda damming evidence of data support proof of kick...:spin:

Naturally. After all we can't reasonably expect you to believe what's right there in front of your face on the flatscreen. After all when you are watching it - it keeps showing a podium with no Rossi on it. And worse yet - the commentator no longer refers to him every 20 seconds as "Nine Time World Champion". So there must be something wrong with your telly.
 
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Again JK, the main response in this thread, conceivably by people who hate Rossi admittedly, is to MM being vilified including by Rossi, and receiving an in-race penalty which Rossi has never received despite several similar incidents, admittedly spread over many years.

As I always say, except on this forum vilification of Rossi is a tiny percentage of the total vilification in respect of MotoGP racing, which is and has been historically almost entirely of Rossi’s rivals, which is why the posters on this forum who are or were mainly fans of other riders developed the attitudes they have.

You have been around long enough to remember when this forum was 90% pro-Rossi and anti—Stoner or whomever else and it was the likes of Jumkie and I who were putting up the dissenting arguments as RCV does now.

No doubt not a very entertaining forum if you are a Rossi fan though.

Rossi villifies Marc and Marc continues to dominate the field. This vilification has had no effect on the racing. Its just overblown drama for the desperate house slides.
Stoner wasn’t effected either. He just continued to beat Rossi until retirement.
At what point will the I hate Rossi contingent realize their winning and just gloat about his continued failure to win a championship
 
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At what point will the Rossifarians stop coming here for the sole purpose of spreading the gospel? You don't see me going over to Crashnet to sing the glories of Stoner.
 
Rossi villifies Marc and Marc continues to dominate the field. This vilification has had no effect on the racing. Its just overblown drama for the desperate house slides.
Stoner wasn’t effected either. He just continued to beat Rossi until retirement.
At what point will the I hate Rossi contingent realize their winning and just gloat about his continued failure to win a championship

Fair point I guess, although I have no particular desire to gloat personally and it would be stupid for me to do so, the bloke did much more than enough in his heyday.

My wish is for him to stop manipulating/warping the sport, which seems stuck in some weird loop where it is forever 2004 as far as the focus of the sport goes, including those who run it, those who report it, and those who own the teams in Yamaha's case.
 
Fair point I guess, although I have no particular desire to gloat personally and it would be stupid for me to do so, the bloke did much more than enough in his heyday.

My wish is for him to stop manipulating/warping the sport, which seems stuck in some weird loop where it is forever 2004 as far as the focus of the sport goes, including those who run it, those who report it, and those who own the teams in Yamaha's case.

If one were to only watch the races, and not read or listen to any forum, news outlet or social media, would they come to the conclusion that the sport is being manipulated or skued towards Rossi’s favor?
The answer is no, which is why all this kvetching about Rossi is ........ because what matters is what happens for 50 minutes every other Sunday
 
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If one were to only watch the races, and not read or listen to any forum, news outlet or social media, would they come to the conclusion that the sport is being manipulated or skued towards Rossi’s favor?
The answer is no, which is why all this kvetching about Rossi is ........ because what matters is what happens for 50 minutes every other Sunday

The announcers talked about it.
 
At what point will the Rossifarians stop coming here for the sole purpose of spreading the gospel? You don't see me going over to Crashnet to sing the glories of Stoner.

Are you upset that your precious bubble is being invaded?
Suck it up, buttercup. Or in your case, buttermilkcup.
 
Are you upset that your precious bubble is being invaded?

Not at all Maggie. Just wondering what kind of vapid existence is experienced by a guy in his 30s, ostensibly an adult, whose idea of living the dream is behaving like a nine-year-old school yard bully on the internet. I've seen some trolls pass through here and in terms of one-dimensional tediousness you're at the pointy end. You, will go far in life.
 
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