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Guess what lap DePuniet crashes thread

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats his fault though. He has had a few mechanicals, but thats what you get when yo go to a struggling team, Randy chose a satellite Honda over factory Kawasaki, and that looks like a good decision at this point in time.
There's a winner. Hopper made his $5 million bed, now he can sleep in it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 2 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There's a winner. Hopper made his $5 million bed, now he can sleep in it.
short term big bucks long term career suicide.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 3 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah right, hind sight is a wonderful thing.
Well, Stoner did finish second in the 250cc championship in 2005 to a formidable Pedrosa/Factory Movistar Honda, and showed more speed(if not the consistency) than the little Spaniard. Then, on the worst RC211V on the field(and last in the Michelin pecking order), he put it on pole for his second race(with a virus), and then came followed it up with a second place(to Melandri).

He was constantly at the front of the field, even when he crashed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Sep 6 2008, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, Stoner did finish second in the 250cc championship in 2005 to a formidable Pedrosa/Factory Movistar Honda, and showed more speed(if not the consistency) than the little Spaniard. Then, on the worst RC211V on the field(and last in the Michelin pecking order), he put it on pole for his second race(with a virus), and then came followed it up with a second place(to Melandri).

He was constantly at the front of the field, even when he crashed.
so your saying that in 06 if someone said stoner will win the championship in 07 you would have bet on it ? i doubt it. as i said to rock, hind sight is a wonderful thing after he said peeps were crazy to discount him back then. its easy to come in after the fact and say you would of said bla bla back then .
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 2 2008, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There's a winner. Hopper made his $5 million bed, now he can sleep in it.
Oh how he must be regretting cashing those checks. Poor Hopper.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 2 2008, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He'll never be a World Champion and likely won't ever win a race, but in the right situation he could be a consistent top 10 guy.
Never say never. (Crashy)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>peeps were saying the exact same about casey in 06 mate
Yup.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 2 2008, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>peeps were saying the exact same about casey in 06 mate

But yeah even though Casey did crashed alot... he showed alot of promise as a racer. In his first year he showed he had the speed to hang with the big boys. I already knew he had a promising career ahead of him when i saw him ride the snot out of that LCR honda despite the crashes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To put a different perspective on this topic which seems to be simply making fun out of a world class rider i'll point out that Randy this year is better than John Hopkins, who is being paid millions to ride a factory bike and is often considered to be promising young rider. He is also only a handful of points behind Guintoli, who is considerably more popular.
As usual Tom, your post misses the point. John was injured and was out several races. Being paid millions is totally irrelevant. What if he was paid 10 million or 1 dollar, who gives a .... except delusional people, who think that payroll dictates performance. Rossi was the highest paid rider in 06 & 07, so does this mean he was overpaid? Many decision go into paying a guy, one of which is expectation of performance, as well as marketing potential.

Randy has talent, most people concede that, but he crashes waaaaay tooooo much. There are guys that I could say have about as much talent that wouldn’t be crashing. Also, he might be excused if the races he did finish were podium spots. Comparing him to Hopkins this season is simply ......... But no surprised coming from you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 2 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll be so bold as to guess RdP finishes Indy.
Would you like a ladder to come off that limb?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 2 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats his fault though. He has had a few mechanicals, but thats what you get when yo go to a struggling team, Randy chose a satellite Honda over factory Kawasaki, and that looks like a good decision at this point in time.
Ah, what do they teach at those "special" schools you go to? Yeah, his fault for going to s struggling team. What short term memory. Apparently you forgot all the .... everybody, factory, media, commentators, etc ect where saying about Kawasaki last year. Yeah, it was Hopkin's fault for him going fro a team that promised more of the same mid pack performance to a team that said they would put forth a winner. So now its his fault that they didn't deliver on that package. You totally ...... up this comparison, and now you are trying to weasel your way out. DePuniet's DNFs have been all his fault except for that Assen crash from Rossi. The mechanicals for Hopkins totally suck. Especially that one where his chain blew up. That is very frustrating. Sure he has been injured, but then again, that bike has the power in spades but handles clearly like ..... Him pushing it bit him and got injured, but this is to be contrasted with DePuniet crashing as a habit. Hopkins is not know to be a crasher, last year he came forth in points on a Suzuki. That is a pretty good season standing. How the hell you gonna link this track record that has been disappointing this year to Depuniet, who left off exactly were he was last year? Total ....... crasher. Randy didn't "choose" ...., he was booted out for better talent. Tom, get a clue man.

I know why you always use this lame argument. It fits with your ill-conceived perspective that its the rider who is responsible for the TEAM's & Manufacture's incompetence. You use this very same argument to make a case why you amazingly think Schwantz was "over-rated" as you say, because he "chose" to stay with Suzuki (which accounted for his many runner ups linked to a .... machine). Now here you chastise Hopkins for trying to make an improvement and take a gamble on a situation where Suzuki were not going anywhere forward from the high water mark they hit? Dude, you have no ....... consistency or logic in your arguments.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 7 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Would you like a ladder to come off that limb?
I probably will.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 8 2008, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But yeah even though Casey did crashed alot... he showed alot of promise as a racer. In his first year he showed he had the speed to hang with the big boys. I already knew he had a promising career ahead of him when i saw him ride the snot out of that LCR honda despite the crashes.


I watched Misano 2006 the other day, great battle, Rossi wins all of that, poor Sete just didn’t have it that day; Casey crashes out in third chasing down the leaders. Casey was crashing but running hard when he did on a bike that had no business whatsoever being anywhere near the front.

Randy might be crashing on that bike, but he's not sitting up the front trying to wring its neck when it happens, he is just crashing for the sake of crashing and not overriding the bike anywhere near the level that Casey was when he was chucking it down the bitumen.

Edit:

Last time I said lap 1 turn 1

This time I'm going lap 7 4th turn (don't know a thing about that turn but it'll do)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Sep 9 2008, 07:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I watched Misano 2006 the other day, great battle, Rossi wins all of that, poor Sete just didn’t have it that day; Casey crashes out in third chasing down the leaders. Casey was crashing but running hard when he did on a bike that had no business whatsoever being anywhere near the front.

Randy might be crashing on that bike, but he's not sitting up the front trying to wring its neck when it happens, he is just crashing for the sake of crashing and not overriding the bike anywhere near the level that Casey was when he was chucking it down the bitumen.

Edit:

Last time I said lap 1 turn 1

This time I'm going lap 7 4th turn (don't know a thing about that turn but it'll do)

Did they race Misano in 2006?
I thought 2007 was the first race there for a very very long time?
And I'm quite sure this was Rossi's first win there.
 
I'll go with those that say he will last the distance
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equaling his best finsh so far this season with 6th place
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Sep 9 2008, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll go with those that say he will last the distance
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equaling his best finsh so far this season with 6th place
He will go on lap 3 sometime nearly missing a rider.
 

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