Formula 1 2008

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dylan @ Mar 17 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That was a crazy race, everyone and thing was destroyed on my fantasy team haha

me too...none of my riders score...which is i expect so i got a team that would score real good during races...


...and guess what happened? Both ferraris retired...


I'm doomed!

digging old posts...i found these two....flashback time guys...


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Nov 9 2007, 05:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Kimi love in here:



I hope next years Ferrari is ...., and Kimi has a hard time, whilst Macca dominate to give the FIA a big 'F U'.



i really really hope you didn't jinx them mate...i hope the Oz gp is a one-off...or you'll be hearing a lot



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Nov 10 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We'll see, if Alonso does go to Renault I expect full apologies from you lot to my crystal ball!!

we never got to discuss this after it was confirmed...or did you? nyahaha

but see, i don't need to apologize...i offered a drink

come by here and pick it up teo

haha he jinxed it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dylan @ Mar 17 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>haha he jinxed it

covers ears

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i'm not hearing it!!!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 16 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh yeah. Does anyone know about or understand the justification for the rules regarding the safetey car? Why can't they re-fuel and why wasn't rubens allowed out onto the circuit when he went?
As soon as SC is deployed pit lane is closed. This rule was introduced last year to avoid the situation were everyone pitted when SC came out and some drivers got advantage because others had to queue. But it created another problem, people that planned to pit in those laps have to do it or they will run out of fuel. It happened first time last season in Canada when Alonso and Rosberg pitted during SC and were handed a drive through penalty, sending them to the back of the grid.
But I don't know why in their case the lights were green, unlike in Rubens case.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Mar 16 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I for one definitely call kicking a door down ridiculous antics.

As if Alonso wasn't at fault. Last season just proves that he can't handle competition from a competitive team mate.
Please enlighten me because I've no idea what you're talking about doors.

And he can and did handle competition not only from a competitive teammate but also from a team boss that raced "against him".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Mar 17 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>digging old posts...i found these two....flashback time guys...

we never got to discuss this after it was confirmed...or did you? nyahaha

but see, i don't need to apologize...i offered a drink

come by here and pick it up teo
Well now that I'm in Italy I'm about 1500km closer to you, but that's still around 10500km away ... so I think for now I will stay here ... but someday I might show up in Manila and request my beer!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Mar 17 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well now that I'm in Italy I'm about 1500km closer to you, but that's still around 10500km away ... so I think for now I will stay here ... but someday I might show up in Manila and request my beer!!

oh fook! you're in italy?! gad, i wanna go there... why are you there?

haha, you can have all the beers you want, just make sure you can handle them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Mar 17 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Please enlighten me because I've no idea what you're talking about doors.

And he can and did handle competition not only from a competitive teammate but also from a team boss that raced "against him".

Don't worry i'll enlighten you. After qualifying at Fuji he was pissed off so he proceeded to taking out his frustation on a door and kicked it down.

Well he didn't handle it in a very professional manner did he?

Last season just proves he isn't a good team mate, unless i'm proven otherwise that's the way I feel.

I have to say absolutely cracking start to the season. The removal of traction control certainly threw a spanner in the works there! Verdicts on the finishers (and remaining points scorers):

Hamilton: Just about the only driver on the grid who had an uneventful race! Kept the lead from start to finish and demonstrated the most professional drive on the day. Great stuff.

Heidfeld: Tussled with the best throughout, crossed the line a few seconds behind Hamilton, once again so near yet so far. He'll definitely get the win one day, but very good opening to the season.

Rosberg: His loyalty to the Williams team is finally paying off. A strong drive kept him in the top 8 throughout, the various incidents ahead sealed his first podium finish. Well deserved.

Alonso: Performance was mediocre, didn't expect Alonso to perform so badly even with a slower team. Was very lucky to finish fourth IMO, but needs to up his game all the same. Good pass on Kov.

Kovalainen: On course for much of the race to make it a McLaren one-two but lost out behind the safety car and Alonso. A promising start to the season.

Nakajima: Despite a points finish, performance was decidedly lacklustre, collision with Kubica was definitely Sato-esque. Needs to learn to keep a cool head in the future.

Bourdais: Gutted that he didn't finish fourth on his debut. Made a brilliant effort to keep himself ahead of the top F1 drivers in a little car. Retirement purely down to unreliability.

Raikkonen: Something got to him here, he made critical wrong decisions which cost him the race, and engine failure put paid to a catchup. Solitary point is a consolation.

Barrichello: Broke the rules, but still a stunning race drive in the Honda to prove he's still got the talent after all these races. Hope his abilities hold out for future Grands Prix.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psychic Potato @ Mar 17 2008, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have to say absolutely cracking start to the season. The removal of traction control certainly threw a spanner in the works there! Verdicts on the finishers (and remaining points scorers):
What I saw was 5 pace car periods , more like the V8 supercars which preceded the F1 race in australia, or nascar, than F1 as I knew it formerly. I am all for removing tc etc if they had done it in concert with changing the aeodynamics so that overtaking on the track is possible; with the aerodynamics still in place my view which is supported by the happenings in the first race is that the main result will be more crashes, which I guess makes things more random if that is what you like particularly if qualifying is also made into a lottery but is not what I want to see the best drivers in the world doing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psychic Potato @ Mar 17 2008, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Heidfeld: Tussled with the best throughout, crossed the line a few seconds behind Hamilton, once again so near yet so far. He'll definitely get the win one day, but very good opening to the season.

Alonso: Performance was mediocre, didn't expect Alonso to perform so badly even with a slower team. Was very lucky to finish fourth IMO, but needs to up his game all the same. Good pass on Kov.

Kovalainen: On course for much of the race to make it a McLaren one-two but lost out behind the safety car and Alonso. A promising start to the season.

Raikkonen: Something got to him here, he made critical wrong decisions which cost him the race, and engine failure put paid to a catchup. Solitary point is a consolation.
1. He finished almost 6 seconds behind Lewis. For sure he did a great job, I agree, but Lewis knew he would win, he wasn't pushing to the maximum (if he would have done that, Nick wouldn't have been ''so close'').

2. I don't think he performed badly at all!! How can you say that? It seems that Renault is not that good (Macca, Ferrari and BMW all better). He fought really hard, and he drove a good race imo. If more people would have finished and didnt have the problems they had, he wouldn't have been in 4th place of course. It will be a hard season for Fernando.

3. Kovi did a very good job I think. The SC didn't play in his favour at all. He could have finished 2nd for sure.

4. He was playing cath up, but it seems he wasn't that focused. He better stop making those mistakes in the up coming races.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Mar 17 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't worry i'll enlighten you. After qualifying at Fuji he was pissed off so he proceeded to taking out his frustation on a door and kicked it down.

Well he didn't handle it in a very professional manner did he?

Last season just proves he isn't a good team mate, unless i'm proven otherwise that's the way I feel.

It's the first time I hear that. Do you by chance have any reliable source link?. And anyway even if it's true it's quite a pretty understable considering McLaren had ...... up the tyre pressures in his car (I wanna believe it was a honest mistake), though the FIA considered it was worth to keep an eye on what McLaren were doing to FA's car form the next race onwards.

About being a good teammate, well considering what Hamilton did to him in Hungary quali, I think he was extremely kind to LH and McLaren keeping his end of the quali agreement. So you might feel that way, but last year doesn't prove anything other than Ron is a mediocre teamboss in terms of managing personal situations.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Mar 17 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh fook! you're in italy?! gad, i wanna go there... why are you there?

haha, you can have all the beers you want, just make sure you can handle them.

I work here. In a EU research centre near Milano.

A rant now: I have an article, which was printed in Saturday's edition of the Daily Mirror (UK newspaper) by "F1 correspondent" Byron Young prior to the season opener. He gives fair verdicts on the drivers who've been here for a while, but ignorantly slags off the new drivers, and it infuriated me to say the least. In order to the worst, here they are:

4. On Piquet: Employed to do what Hamilton refused to do last year: play second fiddle to Alonso. Playboy looks."
True, but that bit at the end implies he isn't a serious driver, uncalled for. But more or less right.

3. On Nakajima: "Must have been hired for the size of his wallet rather than his talent."
No he wasn't! Nakajima earned his place in F1 through Toyota's young driver programme. And AFAIK Williams are not in any financial difficulty. This is 2008, not 1994, and I doubt a team like Williams would need paydrivers.

2. On Bourdais: "The Michael Schumacher of US Racing with 4 Champ Car titles will soon regret his decision to switch to F1."
Totally misinformed. Bourdais has wanted to switch to F1 for a long time, and was relishing the challenge of battling with a slower team! Very quick to write off a great racing talent and enthusiasm.

1. On Glock: "How can a team have so much money and so little success?"
What the ....? How the hell did you come to that? Glock WON last year's GP2 championship, and has been a leading contender there for the PAST 3 YEARS! Little success, my arse.

What an ignorant and ill-informed analysis of up and coming talents. The guy's not fit to call himself an F1 correspondent if he doesn't even display the effort to do a little bit of research on the new talents. Even more so if he considers GP2 drivers to be talentless.

Rant over now.

Potato, best thing to do is just stop reading British newspapers. They're all the bloody same. Ignorant pricks who overdo anything and everything. Unfortunately, they're ignorance tends to feed the British public at large.

The way people write off Nakajima annoys me too. He was rookie of the year in GP2 last year, ahead of Bruno Senna. Everyone seems to think Bruno will waltz into F1 and destroy everyone (because of his surname ), whereas all Nakajima gets is stick. I don't think Bruno is any less talented than Nakajima, but I just find it a huge double standard.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psychic Potato @ Mar 17 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On Glock: "How can a team have so much money and so little success?"
What the ....? How the hell did you come to that? Glock WON last year's GP2 championship, and has been a leading contender there for the PAST 3 YEARS! Little success, my arse.

What an ignorant and ill-informed analysis of up and coming talents. The guy's not fit to call himself an F1 correspondent if he doesn't even display the effort to do a little bit of research on the new talents. Even more so if he considers GP2 drivers to be talentless.
Having not read the Mirror I'm unsure as to whether the comment was supposed to be about Glock as opposed to the team itself. However, if you view the comment as being about Toyota then it definitely rings true - they have more money in the bank than any other manufacturer and they have been in F1 since 2002 but have had very little success.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 17 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Having not read the Mirror I'm unsure as to whether the comment was supposed to be about Glock as opposed to the team itself. However, if you view the comment as being about Toyota then it definitely rings true - they have more money in the bank than any other manufacturer and they have been in F1 since 2002 but have had very little success.

If it was referring to Toyota, then yes, but it was specifically written as a comment about Glock, and that's what annoyed me. They were doing a rundown of the drivers, not the teams, so it shouldn't have been there anyway.

And Orrmate has it spot on - incidentally the same newspaper had dedicated a whole article to Senna 2 just days before. Personally I hope it takes a while for him to get into F1, they need to learn that drivers get into the top tier on talent, not on whose surname they have. Even if there are a lot of them lately: Nico Rosberg, Nelson Piquet jr, Kazuki Nakajima, and those who haven't made the grade yet such as Matthias Lauda etc.

Great race to get the season started, and Nico getting on the podium was the icing on the cake.
Coulthard's response after his retirement was great.

What do people think of Ecclestone wanting to change the rules to make sure the driver with the most wins, wins the championship?
Linky

Don't agree with it. Consistency is a skill. I think wins needed to be rewarded more (i.e. back to the old points system, or a modified one) but it's still part of what makes a champion. Basing the championship only on wins, would imo remove a big part of the equation it should take to be champion.

I thought it would be boring, but I still tuned in. It turned out to be an excellent race. Nice vindication from Hamilton. Great podium.

Sébastien Bourdais!

I guess the American open-wheel series does NOT suck, eh.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought it would be boring, but I still tuned in. It turned out to be an excellent race. Nice vindication from Hamilton. Great podium.

Sébastien Bourdais!

I guess all the American open-wheel series does NOT suck, eh.

Well now it does, but Champ Car and Bourdais was just crazy. I was not a fan of Seabass in CCWS, but I was jumping up and down watching Bourdais race very fast (5th fastest on the speed traps) and held his own in front of Alonso (who was running as hard as he could). Retirements helped, but still he kept his own and raced just as hard as he did in Champ Car. I think too, that the absense of traction control helped him over many other drivers (i.e. Massa).