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Favourite Casey Stoner Moments

Goatboy said:
But didn't he start crashing again this year? Kinda confirming what people said all along. Or are we just supposed to gloss over that?
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I think he has as much raw speed as anyone who has raced, including freddie spencer and the young valentino rossi during the time I have followed the sport.



He is doubtless flawed, as are we all and definitely does not have have as much physical and mental toughness, or more accurately perhaps as much physical and mental endurance, as the likes of doohan and rossi.



Still, 2 world championships and 35 or more premier class race wins is a great career, if not up with the very greatest, and it is carping imo to try to diminish such a career; your are entitled to your opinion as to his character.



As for his going back to being a crasher, I presume this is also what happened to valentino rossi in 2010.



I think stoner was culpable for the last corner crash racing pedrosa, not that I would criticise him, valentino or anyone else for trying to win a race rather than riding for a championship. Practice crashes happen, and many others crashed at indianapolois that week-end, a track where he had previously attracted much criticism for saying the surface was unsafe.
 
michaelm said:
Yep, 23 wins on a ducati which no-one else could ride by the unique method of almost crashing it on every corner then saving it at the last minute definitely speaks of a complete lack of courage.



You do have more insight into yourself than I had previously divined though.
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Anytime there was an high speed camera on the guy. Breathtaking.



Laguna '08, this sport needs more races like that.



China in 07 ? Rossi trying to keep up with him.



Qatar "06, Amazing debut. He was a lot of fun to watch on the LCR, knowing what we know now and myself watching those older seasons for the first time.



As I've said before, he was amazing to watch and normally I like a tight race but I'm looking forward to him clearing off in the lead in a couple of hours and leaving us all to wonder what the next 4-5 years might have been.
 
I also just remembered that Casey Stoner took out Gibernau, and then stole his factory ride.
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I think Guintoli did the same to Hoffman the following year.
 
Goatboy said:
When he punched De Puniet in the back.
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Around this time Valentino was making random and mindless press releases like "GP rider aren't tough enough".



The public was lapping it up (its like eating KFC, tastes like .... but the ads are good).



Then Casey punches RDP.



Next second everyone is crying again because Casey upsetted them and might have given RDP a hurty arm or something.



Then funnily enough RDP is getting turfed and Casey is the one guy in the paddock who says "RDP deserves a ride, he is more than good enough".



It simply highlights that fact that he never sold out, his principles are rock solid, he never ..... on his team (unlike a certain cop out yellow gutted piece of .... who has nearly destroyed Ducati - after all why not, it got Michelin thrown out?) I'm itching on his "best moment" thread



And what were the real superheroes saying in support of Randy (I hear crickets chirping).



Real men can have a blue and shake hands and have a beer the next day.



RDP's punch - supporting RDP - its a man thing.





You went fishing. I bit
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michaelm said:
I think he has as much raw speed as anyone who has raced, including freddie spencer and the young valentino rossi during the time I have followed the sport.



He is doubtless flawed, as are we all and definitely does not have have as much physical and mental toughness, or more accurately perhaps as much physical and mental endurance, as the likes of doohan and rossi.



Still, 2 world championships and 35 or more premier class race wins is a great career, if not up with the very greatest, and it is carping imo to try to diminish such a career; your are entitled to your opinion as to his character.



As for his going back to being a crasher, I presume this is also what happened to valentino rossi in 2010.



I think stoner was culpable for the last corner crash racing pedrosa, not that I would criticise him, valentino or anyone else for trying to win a race rather than riding for a championship. Practice crashes happen, and many others crashed at indianapolois that week-end, a track where he had previously attracted much criticism for saying the surface was unsafe.
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All the riders that crashed at Indy were the ones under pressure, with the knowledge that the surface was unsafe makes it a doubly bad to have hit that spot.



After Sachsenring, & his other mistake at Mugello which was very lucky not to have been a crash, it just seems like the pattern of self deafeat was repeating itself.
 
Andy Roo said:
Around this time Valentino was making random and mindless press releases like "GP rider aren't tough enough".



The public was lapping it up (its like eating KFC, tastes like .... but the ads are good).



Then Casey punches RDP.



Next second everyone is crying again because Casey upsetted them and might have given RDP a hurty arm or something.



Then funnily enough RDP is getting turfed and Casey is the one guy in the paddock who says "RDP deserves a ride, he is more than good enough".



It simply highlights that fact that he never sold out, his principles are rock solid, he never ..... on his team (unlike a certain cop out yellow gutted piece of .... who has nearly destroyed Ducati - after all why not, it got Michelin thrown out?) I'm itching on his "best moment" thread



And what were the real superheroes saying in support of Randy (I hear crickets chirping).



Real men can have a blue and shake hands and have a beer the next day.



RDP's punch - supporting RDP - its a man thing.





You went fishing. I bit
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Funny, in the real world it looks like inconsistancy. Is this what they call "Australian logic"?? I'm guessing that's the same logic you apply when calling this self-aggrandising trash talker a "straight talker?"



& Furthermore I guess you could say his whole riding style throughout his career was marked by "Australian logic."
 
Goatboy said:
When he punched De Puniet in the back.
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I was also disappointed with the punch. Randy deserved to be drop-kicked.



Anyway Goaty. On a serious note, no ........, props and kudos to you for being the lone Bopper (well, there is still J4rno around) on the forum. They've all but disappeared. though I expect them to come out of the woodwork next year. At which time I hope the Boners are still around to maintain the balance of insanity around here.
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Back onto real stuff (or is that "reel" goaty, good day to fish and well done!)



Sun Herald today. Quote from Honda President regarding Casey next year.



"We offered Casey more money to stay than we have ever offered anyone, even more than the formula 1 drivers including Jenson Button".



It was a financial package starting at a flat 15 million Euro per annum. Then there was bonuses.



They wanted him for 1 more year at minimum.



Casey turned it down.
 
Goatboy said:
All the riders that crashed at Indy were the ones under pressure, with the knowledge that the surface was unsafe makes it a doubly bad to have hit that spot.



After Sachsenring, & his other mistake at Mugello which was very lucky not to have been a crash, it just seems like the pattern of self deafeat was repeating itself.
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What, because he had already announced he was retiring, and had smashed the field in the previous race at laguna seca?



Don't really see your point. I know the same argument was used for rossi's crash leading to the leg fracture in 2010, but I thought it was erroneous then as well.They all crash in practice every year, and it requires some luck to escape without significant injury, even if you are valentino rossi, let alone stoner with his closer to the edge riding style.



Perusing this and other forums I think you will find most if not all of stoner's fans are happy with what he has achieved and happy for him to retire if that is his choice. If you think he could and should have achieved more, that is your opinion to which you are entitled; he obviously was never going to match valentino rossi's record however long he raced anyway. The argument that he should keep riding because those who dislike (in your case) or hate him think he should seems a strange one to me though.
 
EDIT: 2012 Phillip Island win.





(Btw, thanks for the service to this thread Goaty. If it wasnt for you, this thread would be just boring. Where is JohnnyKnocks? He need to chime in here. )
 
Best stoner moments for me are all from footage as I have never been to a GP race.



Putting the LCR on pole.



Ducat debut race against Rossi.



Phillip island every year. Especially taking the title on the Duck on his birthday.



That pass on Lorenzo at Laguna last year.



And like someone else said; any of that HD slo mo stuff we've been seeing the last few years.
 
Goatboy said:
Funny, in the real world it looks like inconsistancy. Is this what they call "Australian logic"?? I'm guessing that's the same logic you apply when calling this self-aggrandising trash talker a "straight talker?"



& Furthermore I guess you could say his whole riding style throughout his career was marked by "Australian logic."
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Someone has to win and someone has to lose.



I love WSBK because everyone is inconsistent (9 winners a season). Trash talking and straight talking are the same thing, depending on what side you take, to me VR's sulky little interview on channel 10 today saying motogp is boring vomiting out the Dorna/Bridgepoint propaganda was trash talk, proved he is for sale.



But others will say that he is the voice of reason and that his unquestioned support of the upcoming rule changes are made only with the best interests of the sport in mind.



Mind you he has been moaning about the rules ever since he wasn't champion, and he didn't have the moral ascendancy to turn down his paycheck and leave (although upon the threat of such exodus Michelin left unwillingly). I guess I am a prisoner of Australian logic.



I don't think the difference is that one is straight talk and one trash. I agree with one and not the other as do you. Just the different one.
 

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