Joined Aug 2007
11K Posts | 3K+
Pomona NY
So this time you're sure he is not dreaming it up like the FP2 towing incident
Are you saying you find Casey dreamy?
Are you saying you find Casey dreamy?
The gap was very very obviously due to being balked by Simoncelli at the beginning. Watch the race again.
Nick Harris and Gavin Emmet commented numerous times that his lap times were almost identical during
the last third of the race. He was undoubted unnerved at the prospect of being taken out two races in a row
by yet another out-of-control Italian.By the time he'd regained his rhythm it was too late.
Factoid: Bowling was invented by the Egyptians.
But perfected by the Italians.
Do you mean his laptimes were identical to that of Pedrosa's in the last 3rd?
If yes, then you're WRONG
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Great race by Pedrosa! and JL.
Stoner showing the usual Estoril curse.
Rossi doing a good Melandri impersonation.
Dovi ........??? what was up with Dovi!!???
Stoner showing the usual Estoril curse.
Rossi doing a good Melandri impersonation.
Dovi ........??? what was up with Dovi!!???
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
The gap was very very obviously due to being balked by Simoncelli at the beginning. Watch the race again.
Nick Harris and Gavin Emmet commented numerous times that his lap times were almost identical during
the last third of the race. He was undoubted unnerved at the prospect of being taken out two races in a row
by yet another out-of-control Italian.By the time he'd regained his rhythm it was too late.
Factoid: Bowling was invented by the Egyptians.
But perfected by the Italians.
Thats simply not the case, if you look at the last 9 laps of the race, Pedrosa and Lorenzo were much quicker. The announcers also said when describing the battle up front that they were doing "well over 200 mph" when in fact, neither rider broke 200 mph the entire race. Announcers love to embellish, the numbers dont lie.
Joined Mar 2011
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London
I need to get a new hobby. Motorcycle Grand Prix is no more. Endurance car racing rules are not appropriate for a motorcycle sprint series.
Joined Oct 2007
4K Posts | 744+
Tuscany, Italy
Your are right, cameras are there on track but they could be too objective. Better to go with 'opinions'...
Or, if you have the MotoGP.Com account go have a look at the video:
1. This is Stoner's wobble; not nice, but he does not lose any ground.
2. Here is Sic's crash: Stoner's line is not disrupted. In the video you hear him closing the throttle one split second, then he opens up again and he clears away.
You are saying this was the reason Stoner arrived 3rd instead of 1st -- I say it may have costed him a few tenths, not more. Certainly the 8 seconds were not originated here.
Ah, Kesh, Kesh... it's not my fault if you are mostly wrong... but feel free to blame the Italians, we don't care!
Joined Mar 2005
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Woody Creek
Which is why there is a small, but growing, number of people wondering if Houseworth is up for it. No disrespect to the guy, but he was wrenching in the AMA four years ago. This is an entirely different animal. And it just seems as though Spies has plateaued, maybe even dropped off this season. He looks uncharacteristically uncomfortable, as if he's overriding that bike. And there's plenty more speed in that bike, which Lorenzo has proven time and again. Which leads us back to the crew.
Yes, it didn't cost him 1st as he was slower than Pedrosa. But he definitely lost more than a "few tenths". I'd say he lost around 1 second there.
Not a bad race, but not as exciting as i expected.
Lorenzo was doing a Rossi, late braking and keeping the same smal gap every lap, But fortunatly Pedrosa found a way to pass finally.
I,m affraid Simonchelli has still a few high sides to fly before finding the rythem.
Rossi didn't have a great race, but better 4th than crashing, this was the first time i saw Rossi made all his overtakings in the start. He couldn't ride away from Dovi even, but still good enough to keep him behind.
Stoner had also his own problems, but he made the most of his chance. i saw he was touching his own back side again, i dont know if it was meant for an imaginary tow sercher again or that he was talking to his team.
Spies, had a disaster race, he and Hayden had a contact, the same as Lorenzo had with Simonch in Valencia 2010. Maybe they should run to the media and ..... about it.
Edit:
I just remember Rossi finished 5th and behind Dovi at the last second.
Lorenzo was doing a Rossi, late braking and keeping the same smal gap every lap, But fortunatly Pedrosa found a way to pass finally.
I,m affraid Simonchelli has still a few high sides to fly before finding the rythem.
Rossi didn't have a great race, but better 4th than crashing, this was the first time i saw Rossi made all his overtakings in the start. He couldn't ride away from Dovi even, but still good enough to keep him behind.
Stoner had also his own problems, but he made the most of his chance. i saw he was touching his own back side again, i dont know if it was meant for an imaginary tow sercher again or that he was talking to his team.
Spies, had a disaster race, he and Hayden had a contact, the same as Lorenzo had with Simonch in Valencia 2010. Maybe they should run to the media and ..... about it.
Edit:
I just remember Rossi finished 5th and behind Dovi at the last second.
Respect to Pedrosa- briliant race. I really strat to like the guy.
Lorenzo looses concentration once he gets overtaken. No wonder he wants time attacks rather then races
We should have two threads after every race, one dedicated for the Rossi haters. This will save some time filtering the crap.
Lorenzo looses concentration once he gets overtaken. No wonder he wants time attacks rather then races
We should have two threads after every race, one dedicated for the Rossi haters. This will save some time filtering the crap.
Joined Mar 2005
7K Posts | 20+
Woody Creek
Looks like your two boys were wrong again, it's crazy that a guy with so much 'racing experience' like yourself would believe the media hacks before the time sheets. You only hear what you want to hear and parrot it around like fact. Wrong again.The gap was very very obviously due to being balked by Simoncelli at the beginning. Watch the race again.
Nick Harris and Gavin Emmet commented numerous times that his lap times were almost identical during
the last third of the race. He was undoubted unnerved at the prospect of being taken out two races in a row
by yet another out-of-control Italian.By the time he'd regained his rhythm it was too late.
Factoid: Bowling was invented by the Egyptians.
But perfected by the Italians.
I came in here to comment on how disappointed I am in Spies' performance, then I read this. Unbelievable is right.
Joined Oct 2007
4K Posts | 744+
Tuscany, Italy
Looking at the video, especially the shot from above, and checking his position vis vis the riders in front of him before and after Sic crashed, I'd say he lost almost nothing. One second is a lot, it becomes immediately visible. Which wasn't the case.
Anyway the point is that his race wasn't decided there.
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