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LOTS Seen to be slipping out before Ducati's Lauch on thursday,
maybe Nicky got the photo's to show Vale.
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Ducati's del Torchio On Rossi: "Why Not?"
by dean adams
Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio (right) openly talked about Valentino Rossi possibly joining the Ducati MotoGP team today in the Italian alps.
image by dean adams
Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio told the Italian press today at the Ducati team introduction that it fits for them to have an Italian rider on the Ducati MotoGP team and as for Valentino Rossi—del Torchio said, "Why not?".

This is the latest development in the Rossi/Yamaha/Ducati silly season saga. Ducati has no riders signed for the MotoGP team for the 2011 season and Valentino Rossi's Yamaha contract ends with the last race of the 2010 season, edging on predictions that Ducati and Marlboro will make a hard run at trying to sign the Italian.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jan/100112deltor.htm
 
The opening by Ducati's CEO probably reflects a sponsor's desire--Marlboro have just renewed their commitment with Ducati for another 2 years. However Claudio Domenicali, who is actually managing Ducati, declared that Stoner is beyond doubt their #1 priority, putting Del Torchio's words in the right context. He added, we wouldn't mind having both of them, if possible, but we cannot let Casey go.
Wise man, Domenicali
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jan 13 2010, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The opening by Ducati's CEO probably reflects a sponsor's desire--Marlboro have just renewed their commitment with Ducati for another 2 years. However Claudio Domenicali, who is actually managing Ducati, declared that Stoner is beyond doubt their #1 priority, putting Del Torchio's words in the right context. He added, we wouldn't mind having both of them, if possible, but we cannot let Casey go.
Wise man, Domenicali
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Don't want to guess who is playing which set of politics, but Torchio is Domencali's boss. Torchio is President, CEO of Ducati holdings and joint CEO of the subsidiary Ducati Corse (together with Domencali) which runs the racing activitities. Direction and funding come from Torchio - oh yeah and Marlboro. Enel is starting to support Duc and what may Fiat do if Rossi did move to the Red-Bike - Hope he does and then he can whip Stoner arse outright with them both on Ducs - although I'd bet there'd be a lot of difference in set-up between the 2 bikes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Jan 13 2010, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't want to guess who is playing which set of politics, but Torchio is Domencali's boss. Torchio is President, CEO of Ducati holdings and joint CEO of the subsidiary Ducati Corse (together with Domencali) which runs the racing activitities. Direction and funding come from Torchio - oh yeah and Marlboro. Enel is starting to support Duc and what may Fiat do if Rossi did move to the Red-Bike - Hope he does and then he can whip Stoner arse outright with them both on Ducs - although I'd bet there'd be a lot of difference in set-up between the 2 bikes.

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Dude... put on yer thinkin' cap. Never happen on 800s. Stoner's had all this time
to master the idiosyncrasies of the Duc and GOAT or no-GOAT Rossi, at his advanced age, coming
in with a new crew, never having ridden the Duc would need a good long period of adjustment
in order to even ride competitively - never mind, "whip his arse".

If we're talking 2011 when the bikes are 1000cc - it'd be a whole other ball game. Tho - if there were serious negotiations for Rossi to jump ship - it'd be almost certain that Honda or Yamaha would make Stoner an offer he couldn't refuse.
 
Why would they do that? They all ready have the best rider, I don't understand.
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Actually I have to agree with my high school principal on this one. On the 800 goat would have no chance. But we would be talking 2011 so, I think I know how they would be developing the bike for especially because burgess would surely coming with. However there is NO WAY! they would sign on the same team. It be like Leno and Connan all over again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jan 13 2010, 03:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He added, we wouldn't mind having both of them, if possible, but we cannot let Casey go.
Wise man, Domenicali
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And this is why Rossi will not be on a Ducati if both men were there. If he can't handle having Lorenzo on same equipment challenging him on the track, there is no way in hell he could handle Stonery undoubtedly beating him on the Ducati. Won't happen, and he and everybody who is sane knows this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jan 13 2010, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would they do that? They all ready have the best rider, I don't understand.
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Actually I have to agree with my high school principal on this one. On the 800 goat would have no chance. But we would be talking 2011 so, I think I know how they would be developing the bike for especially because burgess would surely coming with. However there is NO WAY! they would sign on the same team. It be like Leno and Connan all over again.
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Hey, Ducati do have the best rider.
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Anyway, yes totally agree. Net effect--more cash from Yamaha.

(1000cc--all bets are off and NH may again be a hot commodity).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jan 13 2010, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Dude... put on yer thinkin' cap. Never happen on 800s. Stoner's had all this time
to master the idiosyncrasies of the Duc and GOAT or no-GOAT Rossi, at his advanced age, coming
in with a new crew, never having ridden the Duc would need a good long period of adjustment
in order to even ride competitively - never mind, "whip his arse".

If we're talking 2011 when the bikes are 1000cc - it'd be a whole other ball game. Tho - if there were serious negotiations for Rossi to jump ship - it'd be almost certain that Honda or Yamaha would make Stoner an offer he couldn't refuse.

"Dude... put on yer thinkin' cap. Never happen on 800s". Thanks for telling me what everybody - including me already knows - hey I may not be the smartest dude, but I'd have to be dumber than dumb to even think it could happen on 800's - this entire thread is predicated on 2011
 
Aren't the 1000's due for arrival in 2012 not 2011? With all the fab 4 off contract end of 2010 then that would mean everyone does 1 more season on an 800 with their new team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Jan 13 2010, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOTS Seen to be slipping out before Ducati's Lauch on thursday,
maybe Nicky got the photo's to show Vale.
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Ducati's del Torchio On Rossi: "Why Not?"
by dean adams
Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio (right) openly talked about Valentino Rossi possibly joining the Ducati MotoGP team today in the Italian alps.
image by dean adams
Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio told the Italian press today at the Ducati team introduction that it fits for them to have an Italian rider on the Ducati MotoGP team and as for Valentino Rossi—del Torchio said, "Why not?".

This is the latest development in the Rossi/Yamaha/Ducati silly season saga. Ducati has no riders signed for the MotoGP team for the 2011 season and Valentino Rossi's Yamaha contract ends with the last race of the 2010 season, edging on predictions that Ducati and Marlboro will make a hard run at trying to sign the Italian.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jan/100112deltor.htm

Firstly thanks for all the great topic starters Pigeon. I just don't have time lately to keep caught up.

Secondly, Rossi can just ride the Yami until he quits and who gives a ....? Actually I curse him with the Ducati! Let's see if he has the "Stones"... ha ya the Stoner stones to tame the beast.
 
[quote name='Jumkie' date='Jan 13 2010, 04:10 PM' post='222893']
And this is why Rossi will not be on a Ducati if both men were there. If he can't handle having Lorenzo on same equipment challenging him on the track, there is no way in hell he could handle Stonery undoubtedly beating him on the Ducati. Won't happen, and he and everybody who is sane knows this.



Exactly! Rossi wont go to Ducati unless Ducati sack Stoner as part of the deal and I don.t think they will do that, for much as Ducati would love to have Rossi on their bike, the prospect of being beaten by Stoner on a Honda would be a consequence they would dread.
Like Tardozzi, team Ducati believe Stoner is the fastest guy and dream of a Rossi-Stoner dream team. The BIG question is, would Stoner stay at Ducati if Rossi accepted Stoner as a team-mate. Assuming equal treatment I believe Stoner would relish the opportunity to silence all the Rossibopper fans once and for all (but there is no guarantee that that would happen as I,m sure a new bunch of excuses would surface)
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The only snag in this scenario would be if Rossi is offered substantially more than Stoner, and that is a real possibility. Could they be so stupid? Well, if the offers made to Lorenzo were any guide, yes!
 
JB has made no secret of the fact he wants to retire.
If Rossi changed teams, I don't think there is any chance JB would follow him. JB knows he would never get the same freedoms at Ducati that he gets at Yam, and I doubt there is any chance Rossi would go to Duc without JB (too much risk).
Neither Rossi or JB will go back to Honda.
Safe to say Rossi will milk it for all its worth for contract negotiations, and then stay at Yam.
I'm guessing Lorenzo will replace Pedrosa at Honda with Oayama (assuming Oayama goes OK in 2010). Hayden will have a better year in 2010 and Duc will re-sign Stoner (2010 WC) and Hayden for 2011.
Spies to partner Rossi at Yam in 2011.

As much as I would love to see Rossi and Stoner on the same bikes, I doubt it will ever happen, unless Duc (read Philip Morris) are willing to pay Rossi a .... load of money.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Jan 14 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>JB has made no secret of the fact he wants to retire.
If Rossi changed teams, I don't think there is any chance JB would follow him. JB knows he would never get the same freedoms at Ducati that he gets at Yam, and I doubt there is any chance Rossi would go to Duc without JB (too much risk).
Neither Rossi or JB will go back to Honda.
Safe to say Rossi will milk it for all its worth for contract negotiations, and then stay at Yam.
I'm guessing Lorenzo will replace Pedrosa at Honda with Oayama (assuming Oayama goes OK in 2010). Hayden will have a better year in 2010 and Duc will re-sign Stoner (2010 WC) and Hayden for 2011.
Spies to partner Rossi at Yam in 2011.

As much as I would love to see Rossi and Stoner on the same bikes, I doubt it will ever happen, unless Duc (read Philip Morris) are willing to pay Rossi a .... load of money.

To continue, there would be a definite possibility Rossi would go to his own, stand alone, full factory supported Ducati team, with JB and unrestricted scope for development and changes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Jan 14 2010, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>- this entire thread is predicated on 2011

The entire thread !! based on a pretty of the cuff and non-commital "Why not".

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I think this shows the reality of what is expected if Rossi did go Ducati ....... which will never happen, too much of a hot potato, as it would be marketting suicide for Ducati.
Just imagine the Rossifans reaction when Rossi did not produce a race win in the 1st half of the season
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I for one would love Rossi to go to Ducati, but somehow I don't think JB would go. In fact should JB retire before Rossi, then we may see Rossi on a Ducati.

But for now I think the Ducati does not have enough "universal winability" for Rossi to even entertain the thought seriously.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Jan 14 2010, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Safe to say Rossi will milk it for all its worth for contract negotiations, and then stay at Yam.

I'm beggining to suspect that Rossi re-started the Ducati rumours to make a point to men like Stoner and Lorenzo, to remind them that he was still THE man that everyone wanted and that they would chose him if they thought it possible. Ducati's interest probably did Lorenzo's ego/confidence a lot of good and i doubt Rossi appreciates that. I still don't believe he actually wants to ride the Ducati
 
Come next contract - Ducati will have to offer Stoner a ....-load of Euros to keep
him from jumping ship to Honda. Stoner must be dying to get on an easier-to-ride
bike in order to finally silence all the dildos who said he won in "07 because of the
bike - and also so he can beat the competition with an even greater degree of ease
as a result of not having to spend so much physical and mental energy
adjusting for the Ducati idiosyncrasies.

Rossi will stay at Yamaha because Jerry B will retire before moving to another camp.

Lorenzo will stay at Yamaha because he's not crazy enough to go to Ducati.

Spies will end up being Stoner's team-mate at Honda.

You heard it here first!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jan 15 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Come next contract - Ducati will have to offer Stoner a ....-load of Euros to keep
him from jumping ship to Honda. Stoner must be dying to get on an easier-to-ride
bike in order to finally silence all the dildos who said he won in "07 because of the
bike - and also so he can beat the competition with an even greater degree of ease
as a result of not having to spend so much physical and mental energy
adjusting for the Ducati idiosyncrasies.

Rossi will stay at Yamaha because Jerry B will retire before moving to another camp.

Lorenzo will stay at Yamaha because he's not crazy enough to go to Ducati.

Spies will end up being Stoner's team-mate at Honda.

You heard it here first!
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You forgot about Ducati!!

What will they do with No Stoner or Rossi?

Easy, they have read this forum and figure out that Babel and PTK50 allready know everything there is to know about the Duc. and hire them!
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Oh and Re: the Italian rider on a Ducati thing, thats what they said was why they wanted Melandri ....... and we know how that went
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jan 14 2010, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Come next contract - Ducati will have to offer Stoner a ....-load of Euros to keep
him from jumping ship to Honda. Stoner must be dying to get on an easier-to-ride
bike in order to finally silence all the dildos who said he won in "07 because of the
bike - and also so he can beat the competition with an even greater degree of ease
as a result of not having to spend so much physical and mental energy
adjusting for the Ducati idiosyncrasies.

Rossi will stay at Yamaha because Jerry B will retire before moving to another camp.

Lorenzo will stay at Yamaha because he's not crazy enough to go to Ducati.

Spies will end up being Stoner's team-mate at Honda.

You heard it here first!
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I have said before and totally agree with you on stoner wanting to get away from the duc as soon as he can.

Does that mean you think pedders will ride the ducati?
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Thats good ....! It would look like a midget tossing contest every time he got on the thing. Can we get an inside the helmet camera so we can see the thousands of priceless looks on his face every time the bike does it twitches?

I am gonna switch it up a bit, and say lorenzo/stoner to honda rossi/spies at yamaha. Honda will out spend and yamaha will take the cheaper of the four in spies.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jan 14 2010, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm beggining to suspect that Rossi re-started the Ducati rumours to make a point to men like Stoner and Lorenzo, to remind them that he was still THE man that everyone wanted and that they would chose him if they thought it possible. Ducati's interest probably did Lorenzo's ego/confidence a lot of good and i doubt Rossi appreciates that. I still don't believe he actually wants to ride the Ducati
Agree.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jan 14 2010, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Come next contract - Ducati will have to offer Stoner a ....-load of Euros to keep
him from jumping ship to Honda. Stoner must be dying to get on an easier-to-ride
bike in order to finally silence all the dildos who said he won in "07 because of the
bike - and also so he can beat the competition with an even greater degree of ease
as a result of not having to spend so much physical and mental energy
adjusting for the Ducati idiosyncrasies.

Rossi will stay at Yamaha because Jerry B will retire before moving to another camp.

Lorenzo will stay at Yamaha because he's not crazy enough to go to Ducati.

Spies will end up being Stoner's team-mate at Honda.

You heard it here first!
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First of all, Stoner will NEVER silence all the "dildos". That would require reasonable thought and no double standard, something that is simply lacking in that equation with this particular type of fan.

Second, Stoner and Hayden are actively making the Ducati "easier-to-ride". And it seems certain people are taking note. And though this gives a bit of credence to the idea of a certain Italian on the Italian machine, it largely depends on Burgess. We know Stoner will run well, but if Hayden runs decent this season, this will up the speculation of a switch.

Correct, Jerry Burgess controls the next place Rossi will be, no doubt. In fact, it’s so obvious that its laughable to see this open & public negotiation with only 'perceived' leverage. But Yamaha will undoubtedly fall for it and up the contract.

I doubt Spies will be on a Honda.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jan 14 2010, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does that mean you think pedders will ride the ducati?
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Thats good ....! It would look like a midget tossing contest every time he got on the thing. Can we get an inside the helmet camera so we can see the thousands of priceless looks on his face every time the bike does it twitches?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jan 14 2010, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am gonna switch it up a bit, and say lorenzo/stoner to honda rossi/spies at yamaha. Honda will out spend and yamaha will take the cheaper of the four in spies.

Wow, now that would be a treat. Four guys capable of dicing ala Catalunya.

I'm really starting to look forward to those 1000cc, but knowing Dorna, they will find a way to .... this up.
 

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