Ducati 2013, Audi is all in.

cliché guevara said:

in germany its quite a pain to change the sprockets etc. because you are not allowed to do it without registering you've changed something which costs quite a bit of money.

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Wow!! thats a bummer! can't remember a bike I've had that did not have non-stock sprockets. I usually have a box of various sprockets for each bike I own. Mostly non-registered bikes though I suppose, so you changed them depending on the ride coming up.



Hope its not illegal here, cos buggered if I'd ever change it back



Oh and thats actually another thing I dislike about a lot of bmers ....... shaft drive!! ( you are stuck with what you have without major work ) Might explain why I like the look of the FS? GS 800? though .... it has chain drive.

well bmw motorcycles and and cars are something completely different.

until recently the bikes were 2 wheeled mercedes we say here

i ride an f800r ,so i've got chain drive. have to say though,shaft drive offers some advantages, you never have to do anything and form what i've heard it barely ever breaks.



for sure lots of people do the sprocket thing here too, its a must do for me on my 125.

but like i said, its a bit complicated here especially on the bigger bikes and if the stock gearing is good enough (which it is on bigger road bikes 90% of the time) we just leave it alone.

cliché guevara said:

got 300.000 on my old beamer and it still runs and slides perfectly, i have rocket as a witness

little electronics,2 valves and being kind to your engine the first couple of thousand kilometers and IMO you'll get most cars near 300.000.



what exactly is the korean version of a 749?

the 999 is sort of my dream bike (please no arguments about asethetics here, its a "when i was at the right age to appreciate bikes this thing sounded best"), curious to hear cheap alternatives.

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Yep She runs sweet as a nut

BarryMachine said:

Gotta admit I have heard of a few high mileage old BMW's. But they are atrocious to ride and take a bit of maintenance.



Korean "version"??? its a similar config thats all.

Not a very exotic bike at all its a Hyosung 650. Bought it as a commuter and a "tinker with it to see what I could get from it" bike.

I decided fuel economy was my main aim for buying it and bought it over the similar sized Kawa and Suz at the time too .... just because it was rawer and I could do something with it and I hated the front forks on the other brand muter bikes ....... washy as a sponge!!

Its been a surprising little plonker, as i said daily commute with 80,000kms on it!! and I get an average 3,2L/100 out of it. Geared up to the moon though cos with the stock gearing it felt like a scooter

And it has ....... carbies!!



Its been a surprising bike ....

Not exactly light weight though .... still its stable and comfy and doesn't stop.

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It is what it is. These are pretty popular here in NYC with folks who just don't have the bucks for a Jap bike. Thus far I haven't seen

any of these rusting away under the FDR overpasses where lots of junk bikes get abandoned. Always thought they'd be decent

commuter bikes. By "don't stop" I assume you mean, keep running.

Keshav said:

By "don't stop" I assume you mean, keep running.

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It did occur to me that may have been an inopportune way to say "it keeps running"( which I did mean ) , especially as many claim the brakes feel "wooden" when stock. I have fitted thin rigid walled SS braid and it is pretty good, I'm a one finger braker and it is easy for me to stoppie the beast ( found this out whilst avoiding a rear door of an overzealous lane roving turning motorist )

BarryMachine said:

No good/dismal. Toyotas aren't even run in at that mileage!!



I have a Toyota that has towed bikes and a heavy trailer about that far. It has near 300,000km on the clock ( road/beach/offroad/farm/bush/city car parks!! ) and has never missed a beat until the other day when I gurny'd the engine and it was missfiring ..... new lead time I thought. I also decided I'd better check the plugs too, because I realised I had never changed them since new ( 300,000km!!! ) they had a gap of over 2mm and were looking "thin". new plugs in and she's not missing a beat again!

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Call yourself an engineer - more luck than judgement that it survived if you cant even be arsed to change the plugs in 300,000km. What about the oil? Filters? I presume that this was hyperbole? You do know that new plugs/filters improve the fuel economy by rather a lot ?



I've owned several very high mileage cars (several different models of Alfas and an early Honda CRX, all petrol as I don't do devil juice), but always serviced them regularly, particularly oil changes. That I found to be the key - oh and decent, correct spec, oil too.



I presume it's a Hilux, ie the same model that Top Gear UK tried to destroy by any means and failed.

are you ....... kidding me Berry? A ....... Hyosung?

what a piece of .... dealer I worked for sold those turds for 6 weeks then called the Hyo Rep to come come pick up his crap

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are you ....... kidding me Berry? A ....... Hyosung?

what a piece of ....

dealer I worked for sold those turds for 6 weeks then called the Hyo Rep to come come pick up his crap

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And yet, for what I want, I'd buy one again ......... if it fit the bill.

yamaka46 said:

Call yourself an engineer

- more luck than judgement that it survived if you cant even be arsed to change the plugs in 300,000km. What about the oil? Filters? I presume that this was hyperbole? You do know that new plugs/filters improve the fuel economy by rather a lot ?

I've owned several very high mileage cars (several different models of Alfas and an early Honda CRX, all petrol as I don't do devil juice), but always serviced them regularly, particularly oil changes. That I found to be the key - oh and decent, correct spec, oil too.

I presume it's a Hilux, ie the same model that Top Gear UK tried to destroy by any means and failed.

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Yes an engineer who subscribes to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ideal, it would seem.



Gotta admit it was an odd one for me. Good to know I'll get another 300,000 out of the new plugs though isn't it . But it just keeps plugging on so I managed to ignore it. That vehicle is not a hilux, but its pretty much the same for any Toyota I've had ....... they are bulletproof ......... ( though not if curve is around it would seem )



Oil is a different matter. I do keep it well lubed and filtered.

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are you ....... kidding me Berry? A ....... Hyosung?

what a piece of .......

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Barry likes the smell of feces. Reminds him of his pets. Might explain.

xx CURVE xx said:

are you ....... kidding me Berry? A ....... Hyosung?

what a piece of ....

dealer I worked for sold those turds for 6 weeks then called the Hyo Rep to come come pick up his crap

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BarryMachine said:

Yes an engineer who subscribes to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ideal, it would seem.



Gotta admit it was an odd one for me. Good to know I'll get another 300,000 out of the new plugs though isn't it

. But it just keeps plugging on so I managed to ignore it. That vehicle is not a hilux, but its pretty much the same for any Toyota I've had ....... they are bulletproof ......... ( though not if curve is around it would seem

)



Oil is a different matter. I do keep it well lubed and filtered.

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But like I said, your fuel economy would increase dramatically if you changed the plugs more often, so define "broke" . Besides I've always found that preventative maintenance, especially with the distances involved in Oz, tends to reduce the chance of having to wait for the RACQ to rescue you (Or if you're off road in the middle of nowhere, being fcked!) when it decides that it's had enough of not being broke...

BarryMachine said:

Gotta admit I have heard of a few high mileage old BMW's. But they are atrocious to ride and take a bit of maintenance.



Korean "version"??? its a similar config thats all.

Not a very exotic bike at all its a Hyosung 650. Bought it as a commuter and a "tinker with it to see what I could get from it" bike.

I decided fuel economy was my main aim for buying it and bought it over the similar sized Kawa and Suz at the time too .... just because it was rawer and I could do something with it and I hated the front forks on the other brand muter bikes ....... washy as a sponge!!

Its been a surprising little plonker, as i said daily commute with 80,000kms on it!! and I get an average 3,2L/100 out of it. Geared up to the moon though cos with the stock gearing it felt like a scooter

And it has ....... carbies!!



Its been a surprising bike ....

Not exactly light weight though .... still its stable and comfy and doesn't stop.

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No pictures of you backing it in Berry?

basspete said:

No pictures of you backing it in Berry?

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cant "back in" a Hyo.... The ....... wheel will break off

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cant "back in" a Hyo.... The ....... wheel will break off

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Ha Ha Ha Ha!

yamaka46 said:

But like I said, your fuel economy would increase dramatically if you changed the plugs more often, so define "broke"

. Besides I've always found that preventative maintenance, especially with the distances involved in Oz, tends to reduce the chance of having to wait for the RACQ to rescue you (Or if you're off road in the middle of nowhere, being fcked!) when it decides that it's had enough of not being broke...

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I said the gap had eroded out to 2mm ......... I tapped it back to about 1mm before I picked up new plugs the next day, and it was running fine. Inreality had I not "gurney'd" the engine I would not have noticed the plugs.

Never called a RACQ in my life!! Anyway I'm in NSW I doubt the RACQ come that far. Who is there in NSW like RACQ?



The new plugs have done nothing to fuel economy .......... where do you get that one!!?? It kinda defies logic ......... Though I suspect had I driven for long with the misfiring plugs they may have looked good. Are you suggesting that the fuel economy is proportional to the spark plug gap? I'd be at odds with that To be honest there is still nothing "wrong" wih the old plugs with respect to performance, as I said I gurney'd the engine ........ assuming you would realise that this means that I got water in somewhere ........ in this case it did identfy that my leads nee changing ....... hence some electricity loss ...... hence 2mm was just not good enough ATM



Spark plugs are a " within a range" device. Once outside that range they don't work, they misfire hence its noticeable. Within that "are operating" range there is bugger all difference. Matter of fact by your implication I'd ask that each time you fuel up with a different fuel ....... should you change the gap?

Getting the wrong type of plug will slightly change you fuel economy, but once the correct plug is in .... it should be fine for eons.

Example. In my Korean Hyo, I tried those Iridium plugs ....... worsened the fuel economy and the "snap" of the power. They were good for a smooth idle though. I went back to "K" series plugs ( magic plug if you want a tip, spark face open to fuel for real fast detonation, great in conjunction with High density fuels eg. Shell V-Power ) and voila fuel economy back by 0.2L/100 and power snap at crack of throttle back. They don't allow idle as well after a bit of age though. But still a better plug ..... at half the price.

If you read the NGK tech specs and description of plugs ........ they are pretty honest. About it too.



I'll give you a bit of insight Yamaka ......... the fuel economy gains/losses in fuel products is massive compared to any change to a plug that is in the "not misfiring range" .......... I thought you purported to be a fairly techo chap?

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cant "back in" a Hyo.... The ....... wheel will break off

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Its actually a very stable bike in "slightly over the limit" situations. It would surprise you Curve .... especially after wrestling around that beast you have.

Does you bike get 2.8L/100km at highway speeds ( pretty much sticking to state limits ) ?



Will your bike get near as dang to 600km from a 17L tank on the freeway? ( I offer any R1 and CBR owners to race me to Grafton NSW to get this one to hit home .... ) Yeah thats right no fuel stops!! .... most R1 and CBR riders stop twice for that run ......... I could trundle along and whoop their collective arses without trying. ( thats assuming they don't have a fast fill canister and a team at each servo ......

BarryMachine said:

I said the gap had eroded out to 2mm ......... I tapped it back to about 1mm before I picked up new plugs the next day, and it was running fine. Inreality had I not "gurney'd" the engine I would not have noticed the plugs. Never called a RACQ in my life!! Anyway I'm in NSW I doubt the RACQ come that far. Who is there in NSW like RACQ?

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NRMA

Gaz said:

NRMA

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Thats them!!



Well ...... Never called the NRMA in my life!!

When is Hyosung getting into racing?