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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 12 2009, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your "content" has been beaten to death more times than I care to remember, extreemly seldom any thing worth mentioning there
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Show me once!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 12 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Show me once!

I think I 've shown you and the rest of the forum enough of your own posts and your "accuracy" around facts for one week allready. Besides to pick just one would be very hard.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 12 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>time of my post 8:49 time of yours 8:53 ........ thats a very short hour!

No its just that you guys run out of content to discuss on the topic, or have no answers
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...... to the point that you then find that crap talk becomes the next two pages to post about, including the "Politics" of posts.
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You've spent 100 times more words on knocking my posting style than the actual content I posted.

Which I now am doing ............
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as usual, you missed the point by miles...
how much of your post went up at 8:49? you know, the bit i responded to at 8:53....

and when is my next post, the one commenting on your editing?

march 11th 7:20am.....

thats 10 hours by my count....

i cant believe our resident master-baker/CF engineer/ TC technician needs me to explain timelines to him..

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Mar 12 2009, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>as usual, you missed the point by miles...
how much of your post went up at 8:49? you know, the bit i responded to at 8:53....

and when is my next post, the one commenting on your editing?

march 11th 7:20am.....

thats 10 hours by my count....

i cant believe our resident master-baker/CF engineer/ TC technician needs me to explain timelines to him..

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well it shows it as 4 minutes apart for me! which must be about what it was
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but keep bitchin over nothing I'm sure its expanding your life
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 12 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well it shows it as 4 minutes apart for me! which must be about what it was
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but keep bitchin over nothing I'm sure its expanding your life
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ok Barry, here it is in its simplest form..

at 9:49pm you posted this and this only...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Well there you go ..... thats all the "fact" a "layman" would need.

couldn't you take in a bit more information before you declare "thats all you need"?

that is all i could see as you had not edited it yet so i replied at 9:53pm with..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>WTF?

all this^ ocurred on March 10th BTW.

i then opened up my browser at 7 on March 11th am and saw that you had added this to your original post ..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>It seems stupid to start going over all this again, but here's a few problems/discrepencies with the theory:

1. Its so easy to change things like rider position on a bike ( hell ducati's come with it on their road machines ) why would Haydens crew not adjust these for him?

2, Its so easy to lengthen frame ...... why would Haydens crew not get these things done for him?

3. Its so easy to change a swingarm ........ why would Haydens crew not get this done for him?


It is a motogp team ..... Repsol in fact ..... you are suggesting that Honda deliberately stopped Haydens crew putting ( or even adjusting the parts ) on his bike when needed.

One minute you are telling us that Hayden was the "test mule" and "developed the bike" ..... then you are saying the guy had no input and was riding a bike made for Pedrosa ....... thats a pretty stupid proposition right there!


Though I can think of one case where Hayden did get a new part before Pedrosa ...... and even against Honda's engineers recommendations ...... ( the pneumo engine episode )


SO who did develop the Honda? Was Pedrosa the development rider? or Hayden? I'd hate to be a Hypocrite!


I think in fact Hayden is just a victiom of the old equation

Power =( Force X Distance ) / time

(where time is what you want Hayden to be lesser than .... )

Where P remains constant ( what the bike provides )

Distance is the race length say ( or even just the start straight say but its the same for .... and Hayd. )

therefore we are left with Force:

from the above Force( P ) must = Force ( H )

and Force = mass X Acceleration

SO we also know that Hayden is say 70kg and .... 50kg. ........ thats a ....'n huge difference! ........ so Pedrosa will always have more acceleration.

We could go further Acceleration = change in speed/ time ........ but meh! if you can't see the "real" problem by now .......

maybe this will help:

How fast do you reckon he is?.
when you did that is irrelevant as i obviously was not on line and able to view it, I only saw it the next morning, which is why i then posted at 7:20am March 11th my response...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>thats one sneaky edit barry....... and fairly dishonest too.

the end.

that by my reckoning is approx 10 hours....

as for this enriching my life, it has thankyou. i now have more experience in dealing with irrational geriatrics and thats a skill that might come in handy one day...

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Mar 13 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ok Barry, here it is in its simplest form..

at 9:49pm you posted this and this only...


that is all i could see as you had not edited it yet so i replied at 9:53pm with..


all this^ ocurred on March 10th BTW.

i then opened up my browser at 7 on March 11th am and saw that you had added this to your original post ..

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when you did that is irrelevant as i obviously was not on line and able to view it, I only saw it the next morning, which is why i then posted at 7:20am March 11th my response...



that by my reckoning is approx 10 hours....

as for this enriching my life, it has thankyou. i now have more experience in dealing with irrational geriatrics and thats a skill that might come in handy one day...

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Oh you checked it hours later!
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..... but it was written as you posted ...... get over it ...... PS are you Rog's buddy? ..... theres a lot of "Rog. in your argument ..... always over pedantic useless trivial parts of posts, and deliberate misinterpretation or misrepresentations of posts ...... no wonder Rog. is "the" postwhore.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 12 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh you checked it hours later!
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..... but it was written as you posted ...... get over it ...... PS are you Rog's buddy? ..... theres a lot of "Rog. in your argument ..... always over pedantic useless trivial parts of posts, and deliberate misinterpretation or misrepresentations of posts ...... no wonder Rog. is "the" postwhore.

this is why i prefer working with animals....


oh, i will try to get over it barry, it may be tough because i am so overwrought but i will try for your sake...

and WTF has rog got to do with any of this anyway? actually, dont answer that, i probably wont read it any way..

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