Dovi says if your not a clown, you get no attention

He says that its wrong that you can be one of the top riders in the world, and be ignored by the media because your a normal guy.He goes on to say that its society as a whole, not just the GP paddock that acts in this manner. Completely agree, i like this kid more all the time, he is not an attention whore, but would just like to be recognized every once in a while.



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http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jun/110629-dovi.htm





Repsol Honda rider Andrea Dovizioso is having the best year of his MotoGP career.



Now in his fourth year in the MotoGP class, and third with the Repsol Honda team, Dovi heads to his home race at Mugello third in the championship and not far from second. Consistency has been his strength this season. The Italian from Forli, one of three 25-year-old former world champions on the Repsol Honda team, has been on the podium in three of the past four races, including in the cold and wet at Silverstone and on the cold track in the Dutch TT in Assen. Other than an off day in the wet/dry Spanish Grand Prix in Jerez, Dovizioso hasn't been worse than fourth this year.



Like his team-mates, Dovizioso has benefited from upgrades to the Honda RC212V, which has dominated the podium this season. The most newsworthy enhancement is the seamless gearbox, which shifts so smoothly and so quickly that it doesn't unsettle the rear tyre. We thought that was a good place to start our talk with Andrea.



How exactly does the gearbox improve the lap time?



AD: Two things. One is the acceleration. You have faster shifting so it makes a really, really small difference in speed, but more in acceleration. But most important for the feeling of the rider is that when you're shifting on the dry, when you need to shift leaned over, the shifting is softer, faster and smoother. This makes a small difference, because there is electronic shifting and the ignition cuts out for a very small time. This time that the engine cuts out is smaller with the new transmission. The main problem in the past was when you were spinning and you needed to shift. This transmission makes it better. It's good. In some tracks, in some corners, it makes a big difference. For example in Valencia in the last corner you need to shift twice and there you can decide the line and slide a bit easier.



The transmission is just one of many improvements of the Honda RC212V.



AD: Much of the media spoke about the transmission too much, I think. I can say two things about that: When I tried that transmission it is something special for the rider, because you never try something big, a big mechanical difference. Because you never try something big, when you feel this you can say, 'Wow, it's so good.' And this is a really good point and Honda did a really good job with it, but it didn't make a big difference in lap time. I mean, very small. I don't believe it makes three, four-tenths a lap. It's not like this. But on the bike everything is important. So if you can improve three or four-tenths with all the improvements, it's really important.



You and Casey Stoner and Dani Pedrosa all have very different riding styles.



AD: Yeah, all three riders. I thought, no, but it is like this. Big, big differences everywhere. Braking, lean angle on corner entry, throttle opening, traction control. Everything.



So when you're developing the motorcycle, who has the most influence?



AD: We'll see next year. About this year it wasn't a problem, because there wasn't much development on the bike, there were improvements, but not development. The bike already was good. We changed a few things and made a small difference and this year we have a really good bike. But already the development is done. I think if you have a good bike with a good balance for all three riders, it's good. After that the teams will arrive at what they need to to follow the style of the riders. The important development is having a good base motorcycle. After that the important thing is the rider with the team and the engineers.



When Casey joined the team did that change the path of development?



AD: No, nothing. The bike was already done; just he needed to adapt the bike to his style of riding.



You believe he's the fastest rider in MotoGP?



AD: I think about the speed, yes, but it is not just the speed to win the championship. Because if you speak about the speed he would have ten championships, but it isn't like this.



You and Marco Simoncelli (San Carlo Honda Gresini) are the last of the Italian riders to come to the MotoGP class and there isn't a strong core of Italians in the 125cc class.



AD: It's difficult to answer about this question, because one reason maybe is the small championships in Italy are not so good. I think Spain works very good and we can see a lot of Spanish riders coming stronger and this makes a difference. I think there is a lot of talent in the world, but you need to give the possibility for the riders to show their talent. And maybe in Italy, like many places, it's not the best. And sometimes you need to be lucky to find talented riders.



Who do you think is the next Italian to come to MotoGP?



AD: I think (Andrea) Iannone can be the next, but at this moment, about the speed, he's so good, really, really good. About the position on the bike, he's good, but still he's not ready to come into MotoGP. I think already everybody saw him ride so fast, maybe the fastest, maybe, in Moto2, but this is not enough, and you can see many riders coming into MotoGP and it ends their career. So it's better if he wins the Moto2 championship or he is more consistent. After that he can arrive with more experience and stronger in MotoGP. This is so important when you arrive in MotoGP.



You rode a 250 and you've watched Moto2. Which class do you think better prepares you for MotoGP?



AD: There is no comparison; Moto2 is so bad about that for many reasons. The 250 two-stroke, there's nothing similar to MotoGP, but if you are fast on a 250, you are fast, because it's so difficult to be fast on a 250. So when you arrive with good speed on a 250, it means you did a good job, you can understand many things and you are really precise on the throttle. Sure, you don't have the experience of riding four-strokes, but if you see in the past all the talent came from 250 and from the first year they can fight for the podium and fight for the victory. Many people come from Superbike and it's very similar to MotoGP, but nothing happens. It means if you are fast in 250 there is a reason. In Moto2, no. I never tried the bike, so I can't say exactly, but it looks like there isn't enough power. So it's easy because it's a four-stroke and you have too much engine braking. This makes it slide on the entry and this is the opposite way of riding 250 and MotoGP, completely the opposite way. So you learn a style different from MotoGP and this style makes the talent of the riders close, because this is the limit of the bikes. You can do nothing about that.



Do you think for the next generation of riders it's going to be more difficult to adapt to MotoGP?



AD: Sure, but after the talent that is in MotoGP now, everyone will come from Moto2, so it's not a problem.



Are you looking forward to racing the 1000 next year?



AD: Yes, I'm very excited to try, because I think it'll be a nicer bike, not a big difference, because surely you will have more power on the bottom. This is what Honda doesn't have. Just this, Honda doesn't have. I think it will be one of the best bikes in the world.



If you were put in charge of MotoGP, what would you change?



AD: What I would like to change is the electronics system. It's something very important for the safety, something very important for the street bike, so this is really good. But to have fun riding the bike on the track and to have a battle on the race track, you need to cut the electronic system. Not everything, but more than 50%, because the bike without the electronics system is uncontrollable and when you need to control a difficult bike you're sliding a lot, you're making more mistakes than now, so everybody is closer; it depends, but they can be closer and you're spinning more. Everything is nicer, so this I would like to see happen, but I'm 99% sure it will not happen, but for a good reason. And what I don't like about the MotoGP world, but not just MotoGP, I think it's the world, is the TV and the media put more attention on funny riders, not on the faster rider. This I don't like. I don't like it because I'm one of them. I'm normal, and this the media doesn't like. This is funny, because I can't change my character because the media wants this. This is really bad, but it's bad for the result for how many risks you take on the track. You're fighting, fighting, fighting, you are one of the best riders in the world, but if you are not funny, not many people are speaking about you. This I don't like, but this is not just MotoGP. This is the world and this is very bad for the sport.



ENDS

+10 on Dovi



Very interesting interview, thanx for posting the link

Johnny and I were just having this conversation yesterday (before I read this thread). TOTALLY ....... AGREE! It seems you have to act like a clown with stupid hair to get noticed (or previously, artificial production antics). The thing is it’s so CONTRIVED and people swallow it whole. Stupid Sic is a great example of this. Suddenly he's the heir apparent to Rossi. Not because he's won anything, or podiummed for that matter, but because he has lots of hair. That's it.



If Dovi walked around with a clown suit or said droll comments every time they put a mic in his face, or at least took a wig to the podium, he’s get so much play.



I predict that Suc will become the new Dorna darling of marketing. Lorenzo got zero traction even after a title against ‘the standard’ (maybe that’s what has been his problem, I think so) and Stoner is seen as a whiner (and his continued bitching adds to this perception, with the added luggage that he has Rossi as a rival), Pedro, for all his backing (only second to Rossi) has the personality of a sickly fragile victim (which may not be too far from the truth), and Spies has the personality of a cardboard box (barely managed to produce a smile on his first GP win). So who is left? Stupor Suc, the look at me contrived personality of a circus clown. And the world will eat it up; .... already here on this site I've seen it, not to mention the cheers he got at Silverstone every time he passed by (which wasn't much because he ended up on the ground). Guys that are all about racing business will not get any play.





I don't really like Dovi that much, but this article has gone a long way of changing my mind about him. I'm glad somebody had the balls to say it out loud. Though I suspect the type of ilk that follows these 'look at me' riders will not hear it.

Jumkie said:

Johnny and I were just having this conversation yesterday (before I read this thread). TOTALLY ....... AGREE! It seems you have to act like a clown with stupid hair to get noticed (or previously, artificial production antics). The thing is it’s so CONTRIVED and people swallow it whole. Stupid Sic is a great example of this. Suddenly he's the heir apparent to Rossi. Not because he's won anything, or podiummed for that matter, but because he has lots of hair. That's it.



If Dovi walked around with a clown suit or said droll comments every time they put a mic in his face, or at least took a wig to the podium, he’s get so much play.



I predict that Suc will become the new Dorna darling of marketing. Lorenzo got zero traction even after a title against ‘the standard’ (maybe that’s what has been his problem, I think so) and Stoner is seen as a whiner (and his continued bitching adds to this perception, with the added luggage that he has Rossi as a rival), Pedro, for all his backing (only second to Rossi) has the personality of a sickly fragile victim (which may not be too far from the truth), and Spies has the personality of a cardboard box (barely managed to produce a smile on his first GP win). So who is left? Stupor Suc, the look at me contrived personality of a circus clown. And the world will eat it up; .... already here on this site I've seen it, not to mention the cheers he got at Silverstone every time he passed by (which wasn't much because he ended up on the ground). Guys that are all about racing business will not get any play.





I don't really like Dovi that much, but this article has gone a long way of changing my mind about him. I'm glad somebody had the balls to say it out loud. Though I suspect the type of ilk that follows these 'look at me' riders will not hear it.

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We talked a bit about this at Silverstone. Super Sic is certainly going to take over Rossi's mantle as the Dorna marketing departments favorite son. Look at the challengers for the role

Casey- super fast but perceived as a whinger

Jorge- super fast but arrogant

Pedro - super fast with the charisma of a frying pan

Ben's Pies - see above comment



I had a brief chat with Dovi at Silverstone last year and he seemed a real nice guy whose only interest was the racing, not the circus

Frying pans are interesting.

Become a threat to win the championship or show some extraordinary speed and people will take note of you, Dovi has received some press lately for his fantastic riding but no one is really going to care until he beats one of the aliens. I wonder if he thinks anyone would have cared about Rossi's antics if Rossi wasn't winning so many races. He must not be getting enough attention and feels left out in his home country. Sic is proof that all publicity is good but I doubt anyone would care if he wasn't putting up lap times close to Casey's, Dovi's on the best bike on the grid so maybe he should do something with it and inspire us to talk. I've never thought of him as a champion contender but his recent riding has been impressive, but besides that most people are wondering how long til he gets a satellite ride.

Jumkie said:

Though I suspect the type of ilk that follows these 'look at me' riders will not hear it.

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Nice attempt to prevent any further discourse.

Jumkie said:

Johnny and I were just having this conversation yesterday (before I read this thread). TOTALLY ....... AGREE! It seems you have to act like a clown with stupid hair to get noticed (or previously, artificial production antics). The thing is it’s so CONTRIVED and people swallow it whole. Stupid Sic is a great example of this. Suddenly he's the heir apparent to Rossi. Not because he's won anything, or podiummed for that matter, but because he has lots of hair. That's it.



If Dovi walked around with a clown suit or said droll comments every time they put a mic in his face, or at least took a wig to the podium, he’s get so much play.



I predict that Suc will become the new Dorna darling of marketing. Lorenzo got zero traction even after a title against ‘the standard’ (maybe that’s what has been his problem, I think so) and Stoner is seen as a whiner (and his continued bitching adds to this perception, with the added luggage that he has Rossi as a rival), Pedro, for all his backing (only second to Rossi) has the personality of a sickly fragile victim (which may not be too far from the truth), and Spies has the personality of a cardboard box (barely managed to produce a smile on his first GP win). So who is left? Stupor Suc, the look at me contrived personality of a circus clown. And the world will eat it up; .... already here on this site I've seen it, not to mention the cheers he got at Silverstone every time he passed by (which wasn't much because he ended up on the ground). Guys that are all about racing business will not get any play.





I don't really like Dovi that much, but this article has gone a long way of changing my mind about him. I'm glad somebody had the balls to say it out loud. Though I suspect the type of ilk that follows these 'look at me' riders will not hear it.

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I am the same, but why. Are we guilty of blowing him off because he does not act or look outrageous . Are we guilty of being who we hate so much, the fan who pays attention to the whores and tells the normal guy to sit in the corner, your not interesting. Of course winning will change all of that, they have no choice but to pay attention when your standing at the top of the podium.

povol said:

I am the same, but why. Are we guilty of blowing him off because he does not act or look outrageous . Are we guilty of being who we hate so much, the fan who pays attention to the whores and tells the normal guy to sit in the corner, your not interesting. Of course winning will change all of that, they have no choice but to pay attention when your standing at the top of the podium.

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I was going to make a joke and say, I don't like Dovi because he's to bland. But I'm not sure peeps would have got the joke. I should rephrase, its not that I 'don't like him' its more like I don't dislike him.









I must say Pov, you sound very introspective here, almost sane. I really wonder if you have multiple personalities.

hawkdriver said:

Become a threat to win the championship or show some extraordinary speed and people will take note of you, Dovi has received some press lately for his fantastic riding but no one is really going to care until he beats one of the aliens. I wonder if he thinks anyone would have cared about Rossi's antics if Rossi wasn't winning so many races. He must not be getting enough attention and feels left out in his home country. Sic is proof that all publicity is good but I doubt anyone would care if he wasn't putting up lap times close to Casey's, Dovi's on the best bike on the grid so maybe he should do something with it and inspire us to talk. I've never thought of him as a champion contender but his recent riding has been impressive, but besides that most people are wondering how long til he gets a satellite ride.

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Fantastic post Hawk. I think Dovi has a point though, Sic gets the lap times as you say, but that's in practice. Suc's claim to fame this year is that he ruined the championship. God only knows what the picture would look like if Lorenzo and Pedro were on Stoner's .... But lets not get off topic. Dovi has a point, GP fans love clowns. They don't call it the 'MotoGP circus' for nothing.

I'm sure I've read something like this in the past about dovi. Bottom line, if he were better and taking it to stoner/Pedrosa he would get more attention. He's proven to be consistently last out of all his teammates on the best bike on the grid while showing no indications that he could win anything other than a wet race where the front runners fall off.



I'm sorry but I don't think that he has done anything to deserve attention. Stoner isn't a clown but he is getting a lot of attention at the moment for the reason that he is getting the results. If dovi isn't getting the attention he wants, that's ego as I sure don't think he deserves a second glance the way he is riding. As he has everything pretty much going for him at the moment, he should be a contender but he is not.

Marco if he can stay on, would be a contender, stoner is leading, Lorenzo was leading, Rossi is a contender when things get sorted. They all get more press than dovi. Even when dovi has everything sorted, he is not a contender. Therefore I feel he deserves a little flaming for these comments which he has now brought up multiple times.

Maybe if he was challenging for the win they might bother him, however as with the smaller classes Dovi is the eternal bridsmaid.



Totally predictable reaction from the usuals

I think Suc gets a pass because he jasnt been a rival to Rossi, unlike Stoner (remember "Crashy") and Lorenzo (Hollywood production "Copy cat"). MotoGP has a division, Bops and sane people. Had Suc not been Rossis friend he would get .... on.

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Fantastic post Hawk. I think Dovi has a point though, Sic gets the lap times as you say, but that's in practice. Suc's claim to fame this year is that he ruined the championship. God only knows what the picture would look like if Lorenzo and Pedro were on Stoner's .... But lets not get off topic. Dovi has a point, GP fans love clowns. They don't call it the 'MotoGP circus' for nothing.

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I do like the circus and the way we debate it here lol. Even though Dovi is quiet I guess he does have some attention whore in him lmao. I agree, it's got to be hard though, like he said he is one of the best in the world and I do kind of forget that after watching the aliens. He's held off some seriously good riders this year and I do hope he can gain some confidence from it. I think it was an article in gpone about Italian riders and how Italy would have the perfect rider if they could combine Dovi who thinks to much with Sic who doesn't think at all. I like all the extreme personalities we have in GP from serious Casey to Rossi the clown and everything in between.

I am the same, but why. Are we guilty of blowing him off because he does not act or look outrageous . Are we guilty of being who we hate so much, the fan who pays attention to the whores and tells the normal guy to sit in the corner, your not interesting. Of course winning will change all of that, they have no choice but to pay attention when your standing at the top of the podium.



Stoner probably thought that when he one the championship in 2007, but all he got was "it was the bike", it was the tyres", "it was the electronics" etc. So even winning a championship these days doesn't seem to get the praise it should.

I like Dovi but his is just that tenth or two away from the very best.



He isn't & never will be an alien. That's why he doesn't get noticed and he knows this.



He won't be on a factory bike either next year, so things will get even quieter for him.......clown or not.

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looks like a clown in an ... hat to me..For the love of god throw this hat out and I might take him seriously. A sock hat with a bill and a hole in the top, he should put some sunglasses on there just to make it pimpin.

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looks like a clown in an ... hat to me..For the love of god throw this hat out and I might take him seriously. A sock hat with a bill and a hole in the top, he should put some sunglasses on there just to make it pinmpin.

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MdubSTYLIE said:

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looks like a clown in an ... hat to me..For the love of god throw this hat out and I might take him seriously. A sock hat with a bill and a hole in the top, he should put some sunglasses on there just to make it pimpin.

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Now that's some funny ...., I'm gonna steal that for my weekend trip to the bar.