No way man, he is telling the truth according to the gospel of 'ThosewhohateRossi' verse 1 chapter 400000000....and counting
No way man, he is telling the truth according to the gospel of 'ThosewhohateRossi' verse 1 chapter 400000000....and counting
people that get attention, and come out on top, are people with balls
casey is no clown .. or dani
ben also .. but they get attention cause they are faster than dovi and able to win a motogp race, a dry race i mean
dovi would be no2 in every factory team
casey is no clown .. or dani
ben also .. but they get attention cause they are faster than dovi and able to win a motogp race, a dry race i mean
dovi would be no2 in every factory team
"And what I don't like about the MotoGP world, but not just MotoGP, I think it's the world, is the TV and the media put more attention on funny riders, not on the faster rider. This I don't like. I don't like it because I'm one of them. I'm normal, and this the media doesn't like. This is funny, because I can't change my character because the media wants this. This is really bad, but it's bad for the result for how many risks you take on the track. You're fighting, fighting, fighting, you are one of the best riders in the world, but if you are not funny, not many people are speaking about you. This I don't like, but this is not just MotoGP. This is the world and this is very bad for the sport."
As much as i think he is right about most of this part, i should say that doesn't apply to himself at all, he calls himself a fast rider, while he never has shown any especial thing in motogp. It's true that media pays too much attention on unimportant things, but Dovisiozo isn't ignored because of that, he just never have been able to steal the Real show which is winning the races. He is riding one of the best bikes for the last 3 years and he hasn't won a .... on it yet. It's true that Rossi and Lorenzo even recieve a lot of attention for their clown acts, but that's not the reason they have won so many races and championships. At the same time Pedrosa and Stoner haven't acted like them but still they have won a lot. Dovi is just not as good as them. I see this year he is recieving a lot of attention for his podiums, which is been more due to absence of Pedrosa and Rossi in front, and look now he is calling himself a Faster rider, to me this isn't any different than one of the poor clown acts by Rossi and Lorenzo with the difference that they do it when they win a race, and Dovi has done it for a few podiums.
He likes to recieve the same attention as the guys who have won some 15 times (at least) more than him, and that wont happen, That makes me even more angry at Simoncelli who haven't been able to race calmly and deny him even those podiums.
As much as i think he is right about most of this part, i should say that doesn't apply to himself at all, he calls himself a fast rider, while he never has shown any especial thing in motogp. It's true that media pays too much attention on unimportant things, but Dovisiozo isn't ignored because of that, he just never have been able to steal the Real show which is winning the races. He is riding one of the best bikes for the last 3 years and he hasn't won a .... on it yet. It's true that Rossi and Lorenzo even recieve a lot of attention for their clown acts, but that's not the reason they have won so many races and championships. At the same time Pedrosa and Stoner haven't acted like them but still they have won a lot. Dovi is just not as good as them. I see this year he is recieving a lot of attention for his podiums, which is been more due to absence of Pedrosa and Rossi in front, and look now he is calling himself a Faster rider, to me this isn't any different than one of the poor clown acts by Rossi and Lorenzo with the difference that they do it when they win a race, and Dovi has done it for a few podiums.
He likes to recieve the same attention as the guys who have won some 15 times (at least) more than him, and that wont happen, That makes me even more angry at Simoncelli who haven't been able to race calmly and deny him even those podiums.
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Dovi is dead right.
The clowns ruined it for many GP fans so they walked to SBK.
But we do have the situation whereby the lack of winning is stifling the "shows" from the clown riders. So at least its getting better.
The clowns ruined it for many GP fans so they walked to SBK.
But we do have the situation whereby the lack of winning is stifling the "shows" from the clown riders. So at least its getting better.
Dozi is a nice guy. And he's smart, but unfortunately not fast enough. It's a shame, cause I like him probably most these days.
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Well he's the fastest Italian we have out there by quite a few seconds.
Just putting it out there.
Dani has been injured for the last three rounds, and from history when he comes back from injury it takes him a few rounds before he gets back to running at the front (for a whole race) If dovi finishes the season ahead of said injury prone dani.
Will Honda keep him close, maybe a team in between satellite and factory, (there was talk of the red bull team before this season started)
I only think this as Dovi is proving to be a reliable rider this season, does Honda appreciate a rider who is out right quick but hurts himself every time he falls? Or a rider who brings the bike home regularly and scores points?
Also, If stoner wins this season, logic would dictate (yes i know logic doesnt have much sway in MotoGP) that he will be #1 rider, willDani Puig be able to stomach being #2?
Dani has been injured for the last three rounds, and from history when he comes back from injury it takes him a few rounds before he gets back to running at the front (for a whole race) If dovi finishes the season ahead of said injury prone dani.
Will Honda keep him close, maybe a team in between satellite and factory, (there was talk of the red bull team before this season started)
I only think this as Dovi is proving to be a reliable rider this season, does Honda appreciate a rider who is out right quick but hurts himself every time he falls? Or a rider who brings the bike home regularly and scores points?
Also, If stoner wins this season, logic would dictate (yes i know logic doesnt have much sway in MotoGP) that he will be #1 rider, will
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As much as I hate to say it if a rider is to go, Dani may be it, because 990's may suit Dovi as well.
Though if Honda were clever they would put Stoner and Dovi on the 990 and continue running the 800's with Dani.
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Because Pedrosa is a leprechaun!!
No but seriously ........ I am not of the opinion that 1000's are faster than 800's, and I know JB thinks 800 could be reduced to actually end up faster.
the whole 1000 thing seems just a market ploy to satisfy the US market ( and attract more fans ), it will make the racing boring to go back there especially when they are superceded.
750 two strokes died .......... for a reason .......
I just think Honda should hedge their bets and keep an 800 ......
from the beginning the concept of the 800 was wrong .. 990s shouldnt have changed. sportbikes are 600 and 1000 .. makes no sense the top level of racing to be in the middle, at least 1000cc or 1200 as stoner had said
simo that is. and he aint a clown
dani could go, since stoner would be champion at first attempt and dani has failed for years, but i dont see repsol letting him go
dovi is a perfect teammate for stoner. i dont see why 1000cc would suit him though
Well he's the fastest Italian we have out there by quite a few seconds.And he ain't a clown.
simo that is. and he aint a clown
dani could go, since stoner would be champion at first attempt and dani has failed for years, but i dont see repsol letting him go
dovi is a perfect teammate for stoner. i dont see why 1000cc would suit him though
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Simo reminds me of a fellow who used to race with us years ago. He would get to a straight and just gun it ....... and he would be in front of me at the end of the straight, but that because he didn't slow down enough for the next corner ....... so you would see him sail off the track as you continued on your way
At first when he did it it was daunting and you thought "christ how is that guy overtaken me like that!!??" .... then after a few races it just became the normal for you to have to dodge Mr X as he messed up somewhere in the next few laps.
Cos Dovi isn't a leprechaun .......... and he is a "moderated" rider.
On your 600's and 1000's sports bikes comment ..........
Thats is sooooo "wannabe"
So all cars are the same capacity as F1 cars are they
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also i think it was roberts jr. who suggested going to 1200s.
what i absolutly do not get is dovis criticism of moto2. that there is now less of a difference between a front running machine and a back marker is good thing,right ?
i roughly understand what he means when he describes the riding style, but then again this explains a lot about dovis success in motogp so far.
he was the guy who said a 250 is more difficult to ride because on his honda he could simply fully open the throttle and the electronics sort it out.overuse of tc?
what i absolutly do not get is dovis criticism of moto2. that there is now less of a difference between a front running machine and a back marker is good thing,right ?
i roughly understand what he means when he describes the riding style, but then again this explains a lot about dovis success in motogp so far.
what dovi says about 250s is correct of course
its simple, more power,more speed, requires more skill from the rider to be able to reach the limits of the bike
laptimes are closer in moto2 cause everyone can reach the limits. the bikes are slow and easy compared to 250s
as for the engine braking, this is a characteristic of the 4stroke engine that the moto2 have
the 2strokes that dont, enable you to reach higher speed during corner entry
the slipper clutches that most modern sportbikes have, is to try to prevent this from happening
if you notice in old sbk races riders tend to open instanlty the throttle while downshifting in order not to have engine braking
On your 600's and 1000's sports bikes comment ..........
Thats is sooooo "wannabe"
So all cars are the same capacity as F1 cars are they
cars are a different thing, cant be compared
what do you think is the reason moto2 is 600 and motogp going 1000?
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what i absolutly do not get is dovis criticism of moto2. that there is now less of a difference between a front running machine and a back marker is good thing,right ?
Dovi is on the inside of the fence ( a racer ) not a spectator, why would a race participant ever want "closer racing". All that the contetstants in a race want is to be at front ....... with the others behind somewhere ...... the further out in front they are the better too.
Never heard of a racer who wanted "closer racing"
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i know about the differences between 2 and 4 stroke.had a 2 stroke myself, made me develop the bad habbit of using the rear brake all the time
not so sure about what you say about the power etc.
a top 250 had around 100hp and no torque except for a very very narrow rev range ,the moto2 has at least +20hp and a very broad usable rev range
i see how the big rev range and the smooth power makes it easier for the riders but i don't see how engine braking makes it easier.of course they get it sideways more than normal because of that , but i always thought i was able to control my back wheel much much easier with a brake pedal alone instead of added engine braking
and for the reasons why its 600 and 1000 cc : just a marketing thing, if road going superbikes were still 750cc that number would still be relevant
not so sure about what you say about the power etc.
a top 250 had around 100hp and no torque except for a very very narrow rev range ,the moto2 has at least +20hp and a very broad usable rev range
i see how the big rev range and the smooth power makes it easier for the riders but i don't see how engine braking makes it easier.of course they get it sideways more than normal because of that , but i always thought i was able to control my back wheel much much easier with a brake pedal alone instead of added engine braking
and for the reasons why its 600 and 1000 cc : just a marketing thing, if road going superbikes were still 750cc that number would still be relevant
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Dovi is on the inside of the fence ( a racer ) not a spectator, why would a race participant ever want "closer racing". All that the contetstants in a race want is to be at front ....... with the others behind somewhere ...... the further out in front they are the better too.
Never heard of a racer who wanted "closer racing"You make it sound like they are in a staged show or something.
he participates in premier class and watches moto2
or are you saying hes doomed to go back to the middle class,because if that was the case i'd understand his concern
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he participates in premier class and watches moto2
or are you saying hes doomed to go back to the middle class,because if that was the case i'd understand his concern
I don't get at all what you are saying?
are you suggesting he wants to have closer racing?
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I don't get at all what you are saying?
are you suggesting he wants to have closer racing?cos thats pretty wacko
sorry if language is the barrier here
no i'm NOT suggesting he wants closer racing. i tried to point out that he was just a spectator,as we are. and that he should only be worried about moto2 bikes if he will be forced to ride there in the near future. just a little joke gone bad, ever since stoner's onboard a honda theres always this talk dovi will be forced to go to a satellite team,suzuki,moto2,hell,whatever
