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You two are pretty funny. Didn't he call Iannone a .... before calling Stoner a ....? This from a guy that has won one race in eight years, even though he has ridden a factory Honda and a factory Ducati. Maybe he is full of ...., and like a lot of people, just trying to make himself more important by denigrating others.
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Ljubljana
Dovi will be the only factory Ducati in Japan, Iannone still not fit and will not be replaced. There is still chance/hope for PI and M races.
Perfect opportunity for stoner. Don't get it, he wants to be in the paddock to test, get harassed by media which he supposedly hates, yet doesn't want to be a super sub for ianone and actually experience the thrill of racing again. Who gives a .... where he finishes really, the only bloke who seems to care is himself.
Respect for him for retiring cos he could but he must be a boring ....
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Stratosphere
Like pulling a splinter out of one's toe and believing one's self by that light, to be have a superior insight into brain surgery.
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I am the ...... police. If a ...... gets out of hand I'll grab it by the clit.
I laugh every time you or anyone else tried to discredits my cod psyc'ing without knowing much about me. I offered to inlighten Michael about why I may be credible but he chose not to engage the conversation anymore proving he was just try to bash me. I don't care about my credibility to you though. I don't even know who you are. You new?
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So nobody else in the field had dirt track experience. Interesting.
I read an interesting interview with Stoner in AMCN earlier this year that was quite lengthy but cannot find the full story online only small parts of it. It was an interesting read, he spoke of techniques he would use on the bike to work around its weaknesses coming into and out of corners as fuel and tyre conditions changed throughout a race. He seemed to really enjoy changing technique throughout a race to exploit aspects of the bikes performance.
https://rideapart.com/articles/stoner-electronics-robbed-motogp-finesse
http://www.redbull.com.au/us/en/mot...p-electronics-and-the-art-of-throttle-control
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Easy for stoner to sit there and say the bikes he ridden needed more finesse, and that it's easier to set a quick lap in qualifying now. He wasn't saying that after he fell off in Austria trying to set a fast time.
He sounds like one of those grumpy old men "back in my day" "when I was a lad", he should just shut the .... up.
Anyone who thinks the lads on the current MotoGP grid couldn't ride a bike fast without electronic aids is stupid. Likewise the whole practising on dirt thing, yes stoner was awesome on dirt, but so was kenny Roberts way back when, so is Marquez Marquez, yonny hernandez is a national mx and super moto champ for ..... sake
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Queensland Australia
I agree, Stoner does sound very "kids these days" and has been saying it more and more frequently. I'm not at all of the opinion or would ever suggest he was the only rider that can ride well on dirt or without electronics either. I don't have any emotion tied up in, Just found it an interesting article. Annoyed I could find the full lengthy more detailed read online to share.
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Sorry if it sounded like directed at you it wasn't intended at all.
Until stoner actually races with these electronics, his derogatory opinions mean nothing imo
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Queensland Australia
All good mate, I'm annoyed he knocked back PI, would have great to see him on a track he is good with battle it out with MM, JL and VR. See if he still has what it takes, and prove/disprove that he is all talk when critising bikes and electronics.
Would have been a good race, he is deadly fast at PI even when on an under par bike still able to win races there.
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Out of Nowhere
I don't believe that it's wilfully derogatory in the slightest - I think it's more an indication of his disapproval of the direction that the series headed as opposed to contempt for the riders.
If he did actually race with 'these electronics', as limited as they are in comparison to last season, he'd probably bypass them anyway...and in fact end up as one of the fastest out there as a result of the less sophisticated share-ware.
He is basically saying riders nowadays lack finesse.
I doubt he would by pass the electronics now. The level has gone up since 4 yrs ago mainly due to Marquez. The riders styles have changed, they are now faster with electronics, they have to have them to be that fast. Electronics were my more basic in 2007, now if riders were quicker without them why do companies spend millions developing them....to go faster. Riders still can switch them off if they want.
He hasn't raced, so 'ifs' are irrelevant so much as his racing opinion.
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Pomona NY
Well... since you asked.
The reason so many "ex" posters don't come around much anymore is because this forum has become so dull. It's, largely, the same handful of guys mostly patting themselves on the back because they mostly think alike in plain vanilla fashion, viewing themselves as a round table of all knowing illuminati, frittering their time away replying to the same come and go menagerie of low-value dimwits (a rather large "basket of deplorables" if you will) who employ the same tired misinformation and fanboy biases. The "sage" old-timers get to feel all superior because they tear apart the dimwits, rather than engaging in a more rounded conversation with serious fans of racing. Dismissing the nonsense coming out of the mouths of the ill-informed, logic and fact-challenged Moto Vudus and their ilk is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Nine years ago this forum had a much wider diversity of opinion and while some of those members were at times far out in some of their theories - they were by and large, very well informed, articulate, lucid and much more intellectually challenging to debate with, a vast contrast to the Crash-Net refugees that come here to test their skills against the old PS "vets".
I notice many veiled references to myself as being an "ex" poster. Not true. I'm here. I just resist posting unless there's something new and interesting to post about. What with valued members like J4rno, Bunyip, Little Sparrows, Bass Pete, Babelfish, Austin, Pidge, Curve, Lex, Cali Kid, Burky, Andy Roo, Stiefel, Mr Sqiggle, Kropo (to name a few) and so many of the most interesting members having fled this place - it just isn't the draw that it once was.
Every time I visit here it's like being in an echo chamber listening to the same 6 or 7 voices saying the same old stuff from 8 years ago. PS has just gotten stale. But I drop in from time to time to see if there's any signs of life or fresh air or new blood. I'm happy to see a few new Powersliders that are even tempered and amazingly objective - but they are few indeed.
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