Donington

check out the names of the riders i support.. both rossi and dani. you know what i dont care who out of them wins the championship as long as they keep giving me the same entertainment as they have done all season. as far as i'm concerned the more people in the running the better.. will make the racing so much better!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vespix @ Jul 4 2006, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>richo, does Stoner annoy you or it is his fans only? Also, does Vermuelen have a strong fan base in Oz?

Stoner himself really annoys me. Everything he says seems to be arrogant, self centered ........ to me. I can admit he`s a talented rider, but he`s got a lot of growing up to do before I find him tolerable. I don`t really have anything against his fans, because a lot of them are just supporting an Aussie. But (Like Rossi) It`s not the normal fans that annoy you. It`s the Caseyboppers. The ones who belive Crashey should have Dani`s HRC ride, the ones who belive Pedrosa is crap and he won`t last in GP`s. Come off it. yeah the guy is missing the 20 or however many muscles it takes to smile but come on, he`s is a fking hot rookie. He`s damn fast and has already won two races. You gotta give him some credit. And these Crasheyboppers who think Stoner is a far better rider because he looks better or is more outgoing get on my nerves. I hate the guy, but I can admit he`s a good rider. These people can`t admit Dani`s a good rider, that annoys me. And I`d just like to say that I'm not talking about anyone on this forum, the Casey fans here are a very reasonable bunch. But make no mistake the crasheyboppers are out there, and ready strike as soon as the Doc goes into retirement and Valentiniboppers become obselete.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jul 4 2006, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ben it would be nice to hace an "ignore user" option so I don't have to read all the crap this ....... ..... writes.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jul 4 2006, 04:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It seems the Valentiniboppers are quite touchy about the fact that Dani beat Rossi and has done what Rossi couldn't in his rookie season, all this insults and lies I think it's a pathetic way of trying to defend Rossi, because they are .... scared about Dani beating Rossi to the title.

This must be really frustrating for you Teo. Just remember Dani is just copping .... because he`s beating Rossi. And the Valentinibopper`s can`t handle it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i suppose im gunna start a war now hey cus im a valetinnybopper,
ok its easy and quite straight forward, ickle dani, well he was fast all weekend so he was gunna be there to the flag, rossi, as i c it we r watching sumthink special, injured, bike back end nearly chucking him off every time he gets on the gas, 12th place on grid and he cums in 2nd,
im sure we would have seen a great race if he started on row 1,,
marco well if hed a started on row 4? 3rd place no i dont think so..
if the people who slate rossi cant c wots happening infront off u then why watch gp? again for little dani, hes gunna win lots of races and titles and yes i felt sori for him being out chanted by us vale fans, but hey thats not rossis fault is it,, im sure dani will beat rossi when they r on the same grid in a real fight to the line but how can sum one be thrashed from 12th on grid and gets 2nd really baffles me,,
just to keep teo quiet,, id like to say well done dani u was a well deservd winner..,,, oh one more thing dani isnt rossi and rossi isnt dani, in styles they r worlds apart..

winner, I think you musta missed the valentinibopper bit. There`s a big difference between GP loving Rossi fans (Like you) and brainwashed Valentiniboppers who only love Rossi, not the sport, just the guy. The fans who worship him like a pop star, not the fans who respect him as the best rider of the decade. The ones who hate Dani just because he`s not as charismatic as Rossi. The ones who hate Gibernau just because Rossi does. The ones who couldn`t name Rossi`s teammate. The ones who think Max Biaggi is Darth Vader. The ones who actually think Rossi`s haircuts are cool. You`re not a valentinibopper, mate.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jul 3 2006, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It seems the Valentiniboppers are quite touchy about the fact that Dani beat Rossi and has done what Rossi couldn't in his rookie season, all this insults and lies I think it's a pathetic way of trying to defend Rossi, because they are .... scared about Dani beating Rossi to the title.

Teo..what's pathetic is that you buy the hype of the "rivalry"...Dani couldn't beat Rossi with two hands and a flashlight..he can however beat Melandri and Stoner...and then build a lead on them while Rossi fights up from 12th with a broken hand....like in Donnington...there is absolutely noooo comparison between Vale and Dani.....two completely different levels......the point is...no one will care if Dani wins..I would love to see Nicky win...or Melandri....just not captain ....... boredom......because hes an arrogant prick......by the way....DO NOT...imply that simply because someone backs Rossi.....that they are "Valeniniboppers"....that's a load of bs.....


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 3 2006, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad he has a passion to ride and he truely enjoys it but let the kid have his moment.

not that Dani enjoyed it anyway....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 4 2006, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Teo..what's pathetic is that you buy the hype of the "rivalry"...Dani couldn't beat Rossi with two hands and a flashlight..he can however beat Melandri and Stoner...and then build a lead on them while Rossi fights up from 12th with a broken hand....like in Donnington...there is absolutely noooo comparison between Vale and Dani.....two completely different levels......the point is...no one will care if Dani wins..I would love to see Nicky win...or Melandri....just not captain ....... boredom......because hes an arrogant prick......by the way....DO NOT...imply that simply because someone backs Rossi.....that they are "Valeniniboppers"....that's a load of bs.....

I think Teo`s point is that Dani is copping more than his fair share of crap over what is really a pretty trivial point. You gotta look at it from his eyes. Post after post of Dani bashing from Rossi fans, it must be annyoing the .... outta him. Just think if Dani was on top and this site was full of Pedrosa fans extracting gallons of piss from Rossi, how would you feel? I think Teo`s just getting aggrivated with the whole thing. I mean, people have always laughed at Pedrosa for being short, and more recently for being uncharismatic. Now people have started taking serious shots at him over trivial (and arguably invalid) points, like not helping riders out after the Catalunya crash when there was little he could do, or accusing him of snobbing fans en mass when theres photo proof of him signing autographs at Donny. Dani is copping it pretty hard in this forum of late. Think of how the Pedrosa fans must feel

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 3 2006, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And personally, I felt it was a bit disrespectful for Rossi to be doing burnouts in parc ferme when he didn't even win. Strikes me as a bit "Look at me!! Look at me!! I finished second with a broken wrist! I can do a burnout! Dani doesn't even smile. Look at me!!!!" Get over yourself Vale. I'm glad he has a passion to ride and he truely enjoys it but let the kid have his moment. Yeah, I noticed that too. Rossi was genuinely relieved to remain on top after a bit of pain and a pinch of chattering in the previous days. But I felt that his show in the parc ferme was over the top even by his own standards. His burnout was disrespectful and plain bad manners. It was a clear sympton of anxiety, not celebration, and I think that you imply that too. Rossi should know by know that his bullying techniques and boutades will not impress the new kid in the block. Not this one. I don't know, it makes me sad. It reminded me of Schumacher and his incident in Monaco earlier this year.
Rossi is a huge champion, a fantastic rider, a shrewd racer and a very entertaining star. He doesn't need to display his cocky showmanship skills that way at all.

Well, I thought the burn out rocked!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Jul 3 2006, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, I thought the burn out rocked!!



+1

I thought it was great! And typical Rossi.

Well the things got kind of a crazy around here.

Rossi is enjoying every good result because is in a difficult situation he's running for points, chasing the leader...he's not the leader anymore...he wants more he's more motivated then last years.
"I finished second but today it felt like a win.” Rossi said.. and he celebrated like it was a win


http://www.eurosport.com/motorcycling/brit...sto919215.shtml

And yes I loved that burn out...


Dani is the guy that speaks by means of his actions... so give this him a break…


Every rider has his defects... their psychical defects should not be a topic of a disscusion...

Great performance form Rossi, one point though! is the M1 as under-powered as people make it out to be? I've seen seen that bike blitz past the Honda's on many a straights.

i'am sorry ok pedrosa signed autographs but ow many kids r in that picture, i don't see many, that is on pitlane. He treated the kids in the paddock like ...., pushin them out the way, Some little kids think the world of him and to be treated like that, i sure they were pretty upset. I not sayin he isn't a good rider because he is class but i think casey is just as good in his own way. People might be big rossi supporters, but we are only the same as the big pedrosa supporters, we hate .... bein said bout rossi and pedrosa fans hate it when things are said bout dani. Dani is arrogant little .....

Rossi's burnout was class, i don't understand ow that is bad manners, as least he showed he was havin fun and they is was very ahppy with his second place.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi_rules_46 @ Jul 4 2006, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi's burnout was class, i don't understand ow that is bad manners, as least he showed he was havin fun and they is was very ahppy with his second place. Do you understand the difference between smoking your fans in the wind-down lap and smoking the parc-ferme? He trolled someone else's party for a reason. You don't only win champsionships in the circuit, you know.

A few points, first of all, I completely agree with Vespix. Rossi smoking the tyres in Parc Ferme was just a blatant snub to Pedrosa, you want to celebrate a hard earned second place? Celebrate with your fans, not opposite your rival. Thats just arrogance.

Second, with regards to Dani smiling. I'm a karting driver here in Israel, although the scale of it is different, when I won my first race, I was elated, I really was. My response? A thumbs up to the guy waving the chequered flag as I went past. That was it.
I, and I'm sure Dani too, race for the thrill of racing, he races to win, and I'm sure he enjoys winning, but he doesn't feel the need to show off about it to everyone. He doesn't feel the need to put on this pose for the camera, if people don't respect him for being a phenomenal rider, but instead use the fact that he doesn't go batshit crazy just because he's won a race as something terrible and use it against him, those people aren't real MotoGP fans. Sorry. He doesn't show emotions when he wins, does that mean he doesn't enjoy winning, being on the top step of the podium?

As for the snubbing kids asking for autographs, maybe Dani wants to be a great rider, not a great celebrity? I can quite understand him, and lets not forget that Rossi did the same thing on a much larger scale. Moving from Italy to London so that people wouldn't recognise him and wouldn't stop him to ask for an autograph? He wants to live quietly, without the celebrity lifestyle, and I for one can't blame him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jul 4 2006, 03:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Teo`s point is that Dani is copping more than his fair share of crap over what is really a pretty trivial point. You gotta look at it from his eyes. Post after post of Dani bashing from Rossi fans, it must be annyoing the .... outta him. Just think if Dani was on top and this site was full of Pedrosa fans extracting gallons of piss from Rossi, how would you feel? I think Teo`s just getting aggrivated with the whole thing. I mean, people have always laughed at Pedrosa for being short, and more recently for being uncharismatic. Now people have started taking serious shots at him over trivial (and arguably invalid) points, like not helping riders out after the Catalunya crash when there was little he could do, or accusing him of snobbing fans en mass when theres photo proof of him signing autographs at Donny. Dani is copping it pretty hard in this forum of late. Think of how the Pedrosa fans must feel

I hear you Richo....but if you read my previous posts......I think Dani is amazing....I just don't like his attitude....unfortunately, he isn't a people person....and that's fine, but it is a valid point.....the part that agravates me about Teo is he groups all the Valentino fans into this blind march of robots, following a rider for no reason.
I've been watching MotoGP for over 10 years and riding for an equal amount of time.....I like this forum because people have a lot of interesting points and opinions.....my point is....who cares if "post after post" is annoying him....its just a forum......
And by the way.....I have thought of how the Pedrosa fans felt....that's why I said congrats in my first post.....


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 2 2006, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>VERY COOL RACE....Good for Dani!......He isn't my favorite, but he was strong all weekend.....I thought he was all done when his bike wobbled and he ran it wide but he got back in.....I just think to get the reaction he needs, he has to work the fans a bit....he's not very charismatic...but kudos...

see?

in most sports we need and have the wild ones, botham, higgins, o sullivan, u cannot be serious mighty mac, and the list is endless, now im for all that cus that sells the sport most times now im not having a dig a dani honest, but would u like 20 rossis or 20 pedrosas?
rossi has a image which lifts the sport thats why at times he does these things,, on the burn out yes it was good but better places to do it to b honest,,,



thanks richo..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Jul 4 2006, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>in most sports we need and have the wild ones, botham, higgins, o sullivan, u cannot be serious mighty mac, and the list is endless, now im for all that cus that sells the sport most times now im not having a dig a dani honest, but would u like 20 rossis or 20 pedrosas?
rossi has a image which lifts the sport thats why at times he does these things,, on the burn out yes it was good but better places to do it to b honest,,,
thanks richo..

I'd rather have only one rossi...he's enough for me.... Rossi does enough shows on his own ....
BUT...
Rossi, Pedrosa, Marco, Hayden or Capirossi, all the riders are unique...everyone has their style..their own characters... so give everybody a brake....
No one like to hear mean thingh abouy their fav rider...

The Doc 79- here is a forum but like in life u have to respect rules and respect others members and that means that everyone should respect everybody's opinions and options, no? Please corect me if i'm wrong!

I'd rather have one Rossi, any more and you get something like what happened between Biaggi and Rossi. And me personally, I'd choose 20 Pedrosa's, that way you get the people who like the sport for what it is, not because there's some guy who pulls off insane celebrations after winning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jul 4 2006, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Doc 79- here is a forum but like in life u have to respect rules and respect others members and that means that everyone should respect everybody's opinions and options, no? Please corect me if i'm wrong!

You're right....i've voiced my opinion.....Teo voiced his....and that's what this is all about. I took issue with how he applied a unilateral "valentinobopper mentallity to my comment.....so....like in life....I stood my ground.....that's all....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jul 4 2006, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"I finished second but today it felt like a win.” Rossi said.. and he celebrated like it was a win

You can tell Rossi said that because ofwhere Hayden finished, and how he only just got past Melandri in a really close, exciting battle. Like some of the stuff he used to do with Sete in 2004. Pedrosa has climbed up the points further away from Rossi, but it`s only what? 7 points between them? (I dunno I`m just estimating) Rossi knows he can easliy close a gap like that in a few races. The real victory of the day is finishing so far ahead of Hayden, which has brought the overall lead down. If he has weekends similar to this for the rest of the year, the title is very much within reach. That's what Rossi is happy about. It's probably the biggest confidence boost he'll get in his career for "only" finishing second.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Jul 4 2006, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is the M1 as under-powered as people make it out to be? I've seen seen that bike blitz past the Honda's on many a straights.

People like to exaggerate to make things sound better. Journos will tell you "Rossi wins on an underpowered bike!" to get you excited, that`s their job. They`re not bending the truth, the M1 is underpowered, but not by much. on the 250 hp 990s, I`m guessing the gap between the RCV and the M1 is somwhere between 10 hp. Obviously I don`t know because specific horsepower levels are never given, and would vary from track to track depending on tune. But still, the gap is not really too much. An M1 could still get past an RCV with the right mapping and gearing with a difference that small.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi_rules_46 @ Jul 4 2006, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>People might be big rossi supporters, but we are only the same as the big pedrosa supporters, we hate .... bein said bout rossi and pedrosa fans hate it when things are said bout dani. Dani is arrogant little .....

Yet you still pour .... on Pedrosa. Maybe we should ask Teo to write an essay about what he thinks about Rossi, just so you can feel what it`s like to have the boot on the other foot. Knowing Teo it would be a lot more convincing than "Dani is an arrogant little .... because he didn`t have time to sign some autographs while he was woking his ... off for a perfect result at Donny"

Honestly, where is the respect?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Jul 5 2006, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for the snubbing kids asking for autographs, maybe Dani wants to be a great rider, not a great celebrity? I can quite understand him, and lets not forget that Rossi did the same thing on a much larger scale. Moving from Italy to London so that people wouldn't recognise him and wouldn't stop him to ask for an autograph? He wants to live quietly, without the celebrity lifestyle, and I for one can't blame him.

Good point. Another thing to consider is some poeple are born like that. Some people wont even climb a ladder because they`re .... scared of heights, some people have ADHD, some people are obsessive-compulsive. Theres all sorts of minor mental problems people can have, and it dosen`t stop them from being the best they can be. And is Dani does have some minor psycological problem, when people take shots at him for not being charismatic or as friendly as Rossi, what theyre doing is the eqivalent of calling Wheelchair bound people lazy .......s because they can`t walk.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Jul 5 2006, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thanks richo..

No worries. I just wanted to make it clear that not all Rossi`s fans are Valentiniboppers, and we don`t group you all in the same category.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 5 2006, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're right....i've voiced my opinion.....Teo voiced his....and that's what this is all about. I took issue with how he applied a unilateral "valentinobopper mentallity to my comment.....so....like in life....I stood my ground.....that's all....

Sorry Doc, My comment wasn`t specifically directed at you, I was just trying to defend Teo`s actions. You could tell he was getting majorly pissed off with all the things that were being said. It`s great to get your opinion and even better that you can rationally accept others opinoins. No one can get up you for standing your ground.

My opinion? Pedrosa is :

A rookie

Why why why would ANYONE say that Pedrosa is on Rossi's Level...? What are you guys under the whole MotoGP.com hype where they make this fake rivalry between pedrosa and Rossi?

OK, Lets get real.

Pedrosa has won 2 races, and has had 2 poles 5 podiums and 0 MotoGP Championship wins... understandable right? cause it is his first season , Oh and lets not forget hes on a bike that rossi HIMSELF developed.... the RCV211v basically hes on one of the most advanced machines in MotoGP racing today... how could he NOT be winning? What does Pedrosa do besides blame the bike or his team?

Compare that to Rossi who has had 7 championship wins 5 CONSECUTIVE MotoGP wins (including 500cc), 31 Pole Positions second to Mick Doohans 58 pole positions, 85 Podium finishes third to Mick Doohan (95) and Giacomo (88), and a Total of 56 MotoGP wins Second to Giacomo Agostini and to add, hes only been racing in 500cc/MotoGP for 6 Years. AND, He has developed two bikes including his M1. He has Broken Countless records and continues to break records that make Pedrosa look like he just jumped out of his Amniotic Sack.

Rossi is a true champ.

Pedrosa will pass on like Kenny Roberts Jr.

Donington was a great race. Rossi Celebrated like that because he knows thats what his home crowd wants. they WANT to see his crazy wheeles, they WANT to see his awsome burnouts..

A true champ is one who deals with the people

Pedrosa does not do that, He seems like an arrogant little pissant who thinks he is the best thing since corn flakes.

Honestly, in 20 years.. who will people remember?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jul 3 2006, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ben it would be nice to hace an "ignore user" option so I don't have to read all the crap this ....... ..... writes.

there is an ignore user button in here somewhere ..... but how does it work? and what does it 'ignore'?