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So are you like The Sharks or The Jets? Can you show me how to make a zip gun? Do you have Fonzie with you?
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So are you like The Sharks or The Jets? Can you show me how to make a zip gun? Do you have Fonzie with you?
So I'm guessing it's down to his "mystery illness" which was diagnosed as being caused by lactose intolerance. Now I remember the internet forums being awash with people mocking him over that by people who didn't have a clue. I myself suffer from lactose intolerance, it was diagnosed around 2007 when all of a sudden for several weeks I was being sick, having stomach cramps, needing the toilet suddenly and generally as a result of all that felt utterly lifeless. Now it was bad enough for me as a car mechanic so .... knows what it must have felt like trying to hang on to a 230hp MotoGP bike in southern europe in late spring, early summer.
Yeah he sat out a few races because by his admission he felt like he was a danger to other riders on track while he was suffering from this then undiagnosed condition, that's not being a ....., that's being responsible. Imagine the shitstorm he would have copped had he carried on racing through this and caused an accident that left somebody injured or worse?
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Perhaps one of these days you'll quit living in the delusion that I will do anything you suggest just because you see yourself as the alpha male.
In the meantime you stick to your story. If a couple of sheep want to buy into it, it's no skin off my teeth.
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Regarding disposition, I mean with how Lorenzo has actual regards with not riding in a way that puts those on the circuit at risk. He made mistakes earlier in his career with it, but he certainly understood a few years later the virtue of not doing potentially stupid ..... Mind you what Simoncelli did might not qualify as stupid for some, but it's one of those things that I guess I feel if you are in a lowside, just let go of the ....... handlebars. Hanging on can bring a whole new set of issues into play. I'd rather get as far away from the bike as possible, which is difficult when you are sliding across the circuit, but I don't want the bike's momentum dragging me with it. Yeah accidents happen, and Simoncelli's intent wasn't to get injured or killed by hanging on...but I just feel based on his temperament, he tried to maintain an untenable position.
I agree it is a racer's reaction to try and ride it out...meh I don't know, I just wish it had turned out differently for him. No right or wrong belief here, and I respect anyone's opinion if they think otherwise from me about the choice he made at that moment.
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Good points Lotus. I think Lorenzo turned in to one of the most level headed racers. So for the sake of discussion, I think it would be more fair and realistic to ask say: what if Sic had eventually turned out like...Bautista, Barberra, Espargaro. Would he still be alive? (Shelving his freak accident). I would say yes. Kropo mentioned Crazy Joe in contrast reference to Sic, though I respectfully disagree, I was of the opinion Iannone and Sic were very similar, yet regardless here is my point, look at Andrea today. Almost level headed. Would you (or others who noticed Maniac Joe) had dreamed of saying that 3 years ago?
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JPS we are in a gang together I wasn't going to comment til I saw you liked this. So I'm guessing you're entertained.
Some riders would gladly .... their pants a few races just to score some points. They ride through injuries we would take work off for all the time. How many weeks off work did you take when you were diagnosed? Broken ankles collar bones aint .... to some of these guys.
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Mdub, I took 3 days off work for getting a sunburn once. No really, darkies like me can get sun burned. (True story, I fell asleep at the beach. In my defense, I was dreaming of boning fine chicks in bikinis, hence why I wasn't in a hurry to wake up). I wont even get in to how many times I took days off for hangovers.
Had I been in Stoners boots, barffin in the helmet, shitting my leathers, etc. Only to be booed at races, .... I would have taken a year off.
Had I been in Stoners boots, barffin in the helmet, shitting my leathers, etc. Only to be booed at races, .... I would have taken a year off.
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JPS we are in a gang together I wasn't going to comment til I saw you liked this. So I'm guessing you're entertained.
Some riders would gladly .... their pants a few races just to score some points. They ride through injuries we would take work off for all the time. How many weeks off work did you take when you were diagnosed? Broken ankles collar bones aint .... to some of these guys.
None, couldn't afford it.
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Jums, for 8th grade spring break my parent took me to Cancun. By the 3rd day I had both sun poison and Montezumas revenge. (also a completely true story.) I still had to go to school when I got home. White problems.
I got sunburnt at the TT this year, on the thursday with no races on I passed out from drinking the night before with my uncovered legs sticking out of the tent. Spent the next few days walking like I'd .... myself.
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Certainly he could and may very well have changed. At least I'd like to think he would have become a more circumspect rider. Who knows, if he had walked away from that crash, that could have served as the impetus for changing his approach to riding at that level.
Crazy Joe is a lot of fun to watch, but I don't get the feeling of concern for everyone on the circuit that I have when I watch MurderMac out there where you're praying that this isn't the race where he finally makes the Willairot incident look like gentle contact.
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You had a good mom. My son's mom let my boy stay home from school because he had a fever of 98.9 (digital thermometer). Back in my day, if I wasnt spontaneously combusting I didn't have a fever. I don't think we even owned a stupid thermometer. My mom was like, get the hell up and go pick those grapes. (But in Spanish of course).
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JPS we are in a gang together I wasn't going to comment til I saw you liked this. So I'm guessing you're entertained.
Some riders would gladly .... their pants a few races just to score some points. They ride through injuries we would take work off for all the time. How many weeks off work did you take when you were diagnosed? Broken ankles collar bones aint .... to some of these guys.
A few years back I had to be taken to the ER for what turned out to be a kidney stone. I woke up with the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my life, in my side. I believe that being stabbed with a knife would have been less painful.
I woke up in full agony, I dressed for work, and was going to go to work like normal till it was impressed on me that maybe I should call 911 in case there was something significant wrong.
Then on the flipside I've called out of work for not liking the way the sun was shining through the blinds in the morning.
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Read your post again it sounds stupid. Plus you missed the debate it was over with. We covered all bases though we didn't all agree we were all satisfied in the end. Ever had and argument end like that before keshav? Just delete your post like you do about half the time.
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What happens is Kesh writes his stream of consciousness as it appears in his psychopathic mind. Then 20 minutes later, that one last neuron that survived the LSD years kicks in realizing how mean spirited and self-righteous his words were, then thank God there is a do over button. While the rest of us use the Edit feature to correct grammatical mistakes or add or clarify racing points for discussion, Keshav uses it to convince himself that by deleting 'some' condescending words he has magically repaired his damaged character.
This would make an interesting topic but you are right, to many broken bones mean squat (...., even this fat ....... has continued playing sport with broken thumbs and fingers) and they will race and so forth, but there are also times when they don't (Pedrosa many times, Rossi leg and so on) due to not having 'trust' in the injury or as the result of medical advice..
I recall someone saying (and maybe Mike can jump in here sometime), but essentially bones are relatively predictable in terms of pain level as well as how they will react under pressure (of the type these guys go through), so in some ways a broken bone is relatively minor. However I would expect that the more unpredictable illness more than injury would be a different matter altogether for these guys to handle or manage as the very nature of how your body will cope or react is a serious unknown.
BTW, not trying to continue ................ just serious with regards to the types of injuries that are out there and the relevant effects on riders (ie. what stops, what inhibits and what hardly bothers)
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I've done it too. Broke the arch of my foot and continued to race. One time I went to the hospital to get stitches in my chin but the wait was to long I would have messed my moto so I peaced out to catch my race. I think fear not pain makes riders miss races. The fear of the injury, the fear of other factors.
