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povol
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Nonsense, what do you suggest, let the race play out then deduct 5 seconds from his time. What if he wins the race by 5.1 seconds, you going to give him a win. He was desperate to get out front so he could try and take away the competitions advantages, just like everyother rider wants to be out  front to try and take away advantages and exploit there own..How many times have we heard that Lorenzo cant afford to let the Honda out front because they can  "park it" in the corner and take away the Yamaha's biggest advanyage, cornerspeed. What if Lorenzo just so happens to take out one of the front runners while they are trying to get back his illegal advantage. Rules tend to spoil everything for your kind dont they.


Its like calling a pass interference call first play of the game and giving the opposing team 28 points on the scoreboard. Game over before it started. There are other ways to punish him that make sense. Unlike your post that makes none. Lorenzo jumped the start to get a head start over everyone???? haha. Yea your right. Maybe noone would notice. You should change your user name to DornaFan because all you ever do is tout the merits of everything they feed you.

Strange that you ok with penalizing "mistakes" but putting someone in the dirt to win a race without penalty is fair play and should never be penalized. I guess that because your always jumping on the winners bandwagon. Your the biggest fanboy of the flavor of the moment and their usually the ones doing the punting.

I think I saw you this year on the Daytona broadcast. Weren't you the one wearing the Michael Jordan Bulls jersey
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Its like calling a pass interference call first play of the game and giving the opposing team 28 points on the scoreboard. Game over before it started. There are other ways to punish him that make sense. Unlike your post that makes none. Lorenzo jumped the start to get a head start over everyone???? haha. Yea your right. Maybe noone would notice. You should change your user name to DornaFan because all you ever do is tout the merits of everything they feed you.

Strange that you ok with penalizing "mistakes" but putting someone in the dirt to win a race without penalty is fair play and should never be penalized. I guess that because your always jumping on the winners bandwagon. Your the biggest fanboy of the flavor of the moment and their usually the ones doing the punting.

I think I saw you this year on the Daytona broadcast. Weren't you the one wearing the Michael Jordan Bulls jersey


  Jumping the start,   is very dangerous, there is a reason the penalty is severe . Its amazing someone behind Lorenzo didnt follow his lead and take out the front row when he bowed up and stopped before deciding to go on.  So no, its not like calling a pass interference call first play of the game and giving the opposing team 28 points on the scoreboard. Its not even close. Try again
 
povol
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Did Crazy Joe use the soft option and Dovi the medium ?


 


No, he simply was faster. at least until he could. Can't blame a rider for that.
 
povol
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Everyone needs to keep in mind that Bridgestone is supplying tires for free. If the teams want to pitch in a couple million each, im sure they could get more choices.


 


Free? LOL. Ask Dorna. Problem is they are paid on a contract basis, in such a way that what they get doesn't change whether they bring more choices or less (so they bring as little as possible, and even less than possible, to the point of ridicule as happened in Australia last year). When Dorna re-negotiates their contract, I hope they negotiate harder and make a better deal. The single supplier doesn't need to be the same forever, if they create all these problems.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Lets not forget that every one of Pedrosas teammates was too good and too fast for him. Hes been a rolling Repsol billboard for 9 years now. GP is starting to look like the AMA of years past. Its a grid stocked with journeymen that are good at selling bikes but past their prime of competitive racing and the rest are the best to come out of the Spanish feeder system. Marquez appears to be a special talent but its hard to tell when your on a Honda.

Lorenzo is without a doubt special. I dont buy that hes folding under pressure. Hes had his back against the wall before and never cracked. Mistakes happen but were all fooling ourself that he was going to beat a Honda this year.

Nice ride by dovi in the mystery class. Now that hes had some success its time for Dorna to flog Ducati for the achievement.

Ride thru penalties are stupid and ruin the sport. Jorge gained a 2 second advantage on a mistake and was penalized at least 20 seconds for it. It was not premediated so why should a rider get a death penalty for a mistake. Give him a 5 second penalty and the race gets infinitely more interesting. Instead Marquez checks out and tv's get turned off.

FREE COTA


You're giving Honda way to much credit and we're only two races into the season, are you saying that Jlo won't win a race this year?  MM is getting everything he can out of that bike and that's why he's so damn fast, I don't know what to tell you if you think it's the Honda and not him. 
 
J4rn0
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Free? LOL. Ask Dorna. Problem is they are paid on a contract basis, in such a way that what they get doesn't change whether they bring more choices or less (so they bring as little as possible, and even less than possible, to the point of ridicule as happened in Australia last year). When Dorna re-negotiates their contract, I hope they negotiate harder and make a better deal. The single supplier doesn't need to be the same forever, if they create all these problems.


Not sure about the latest contract, but the original single tire contract was that Bridgestone would supply the teams rubber for free.


 


After a long and protracted

political battle behind the scenes Michelin has finally been forced out

of the championship and Bridgestone will be the spec tire for at least

the next 3 seasons. Each rider's tire allotment has been cut in half to

20 tires (8 fronts and 12 rears) and there will be no more qualifying

tires. Bridgestone will be providing the tire supply to the teams for

free, which should be a boon to the satellite teams.
 
rezonator636
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How is Crutchlow crashing a surprise? But Bautista is proving to be more useless by the race. He may as well hop on the RCV now, it's probably the bike he'll wind up on next year anyway.


 


It wasn't I was being sarcastic... I think Bautista and Redding should swap bikes. Give Redding a shot at a real mans bike. I doubt he will win any races on it, but I think he will at the very least be challenging for the top 5 every race.
 
povol
3718651397536850

Not sure about the latest contract, but the original single tire contract was that Bridgestone would supply the teams rubber for free.


 


After a long and protracted

political battle behind the scenes Michelin has finally been forced out

of the championship and Bridgestone will be the spec tire for at least

the next 3 seasons. Each rider's tire allotment has been cut in half to

20 tires (8 fronts and 12 rears) and there will be no more qualifying

tires. Bridgestone will be providing the tire supply to the teams for

free, which should be a boon to the satellite teams.


 


The teams pay their part with publicity stickers on the bikes, Dorna sees to the rest.


It's probably correct that teams should not buy directly, but then Dorna have to negotiate better terms and enforce stricter conditions on the single supplier.


 


Things should never come to this:


 


6b1u.jpg
 
the powers that be really need to sort out the rubber issue 


 


off the top of my head I can think of Australian ruined by tires  Qatar 5-6 riders all out in the same way race ruined , COTA 5-6 riders saying tire destroyed .


 


shows to me that they are not fit for purpose if you bought these tires from a garage you would demand a refund as they do not do what they are supposed too. so breach of contract.  so threaten Bridgestone to sort it or get kicked and I'm sure there are tire suppliers lining up to take over and show they can produce a range of tires that can cut the mustard as this is shocking state of affairs and giving the championship and distorted look (well apart from mm of course who looks like it could take it home on the rims at the moment)
 
J4rn0
3718681397539609

The teams pay their part with publicity stickers on the bikes, Dorna sees to the rest.


It's probably correct that teams should not buy directly, but then Dorna have to negotiate better terms and enforce stricter conditions on the single supplier.


 


Things should never come to this:


 


6b1u.jpg


Looks like cold tear. Maybe Yamaha is over compensating air pressure on the medium compound because they cant make the harder compound work. Again, im not sure about the current contract, but the original, according to this is that the tire will be supplied for free, and of course they will be required to run a Bridgestone sticker.


 


Ezpeleta made it clear, however, that the winner is very likely to be a company with experience in the category.



"I don't know who it will be, so I can't say," he added. "I can

however say that it should be a manufacturer with many years of

experience in this class.




"The tender is public, so it's open to everyone. The proposal will

not specify money, because the supply must be free of charge.
Instead it

must specify how many tyres you are willing to supply, what kind, and

stuff like that."
 
povol
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  Jumping the start,   is very dangerous, there is a reason the penalty is severe . Its amazing someone behind Lorenzo didnt follow his lead and take out the front row when he bowed up and stopped before deciding to go on.  So no, its not like calling a pass interference call first play of the game and giving the opposing team 28 points on the scoreboard. Its not even close. Try again


My guesstimation of a 20 second deficit was off by 29 seconds. Jorge finished 49 seconds behind Marquez. That's utterly ridiculous. I turned off the race a few laps in. There's nothing remotely compelling or interesting about GP anymore
 
elitemafia
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It wasn't I was being sarcastic... I think Bautista and Redding should swap bikes. Give Redding a shot at a real mans bike. I doubt he will win any races on it, but I think he will at the very least be challenging for the top 5 every race.


 


Ah, ok. It's sometimes hard to catch sarcasm in text. But as I said earlier, Alvaro and Scott may as well swap bikes. Redding is getting the big bike next year anyway, and I don't see Alvaro getting on another satellite bike, unless the rest of the paddock have completely lost their minds.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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My guesstimation of a 20 second deficit was off by 29 seconds. Jorge finished 49 seconds behind Marquez. That's utterly ridiculous. I turned off the race a few laps in. There's nothing remotely compelling or interesting about GP anymore


Waaa Waaa Waaa,  my guy isnt winning so im going to take my ball and go home. Go back to your secret whinefest, and dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. 
 
JohnnyKnockdown
3718861397570654

My guesstimation of a 20 second deficit was off by 29 seconds. Jorge finished 49 seconds behind Marquez. That's utterly ridiculous


It was pretty crazy. Watching from offsite at Haywood's Hill between T10 & 11, toward the end of the race Marquez was entering 12 at the end of the long back straight just as Lorenzo was exiting 11.


 


Moto 2 was good fun though.
 
povol
3718881397571933

Waaa Waaa Waaa,  my guy isnt winning so im going to take my ball and go home. Go back to your secret whinefest, and dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. 


I don't have a guy too win.

That's the problem. When only a certain select group of people are allowed in the club its hard to believe most of them are there on merit. Outside of Marquez not much talent has trickled out of Moto 2, But since that's the only feeder series were only going to get the best of what's left, not necessarily the best talent available
 
J4rn0
3718681397539609

The teams pay their part with publicity stickers on the bikes, Dorna sees to the rest.


It's probably correct that teams should not buy directly, but then Dorna have to negotiate better terms and enforce stricter conditions on the single supplier.


 


Things should never come to this:


 


6b1u.jpg


Turns out, that is Hector Barbera's tire, not Rossi's.
 
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