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Casey Stoner booed by British Boys??? What’s ur thoughts???

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CSCVAW @ Jun 24 2007, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What...is F1, What is...NASCAR?...Orrmate...lol
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...Now, I am being ignorant....come on I didn’t say that all Brits are like that what I was trying to point out is that hooliganism, primitive behaviour has NO PLACE in motoGP and as you have pointed out and I agree with you whole heartedly...“The dedication required to succeed in motorsport is, in my opinion, far higher than any other sport, and fans should respect how much effort goes into it from any racer before being so disrespectful. We most defenately don’t want that sort of behaviour to spill into this excellent sport!!!
the thing is i think, if you support a rider over all the others it makes the season more exciting as opposed to supporting everyone,it lets you enjoy all the highs and lows of your favorite rider through the season,all sports have this type of support and i think you will find its worldwide.
i would never boo a rider out load but i may in my head,not because he is not good or i disrespect him but purly because i want the other guy/team to win,if you have not experienced this then stick a bet on a rider and see how you watch the sport.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CSCVAW @ Jun 24 2007, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What...is F1, What is...NASCAR?...Orrmate...lol
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...Now, I am being ignorant....come on I didn’t say that all Brits are like that what I was trying to point out is that hooliganism, primitive behaviour has NO PLACE in motoGP and as you have pointed out and I agree with you whole heartedly...“The dedication required to succeed in motorsport is, in my opinion, far higher than any other sport, and fans should respect how much effort goes into it from any racer before being so disrespectful. We most defenately don’t want that sort of behaviour to spill into this excellent sport!!!
Ok then mate, no harm done
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Just remember that its only a small minority who do things like that. The vast majority of British fans are very passionate yet respectful to riders.
 
roger-m... I agree and I do support Val but I predicted that CS will be where he is last year and if you go to another forum (crash.net) you will see a post that I made last year pointing out everything that has happened with Casey this year!!!...plus being an Australian I support my countrymen and I know that the Brits haven’t had a GP winner in 27 years, but that is just tough luck, there is no excuse for such behaviour.

I do and am passionate about riders but as you I would never boo, disrespect or denigrate anyone specially in public like these morons did (it’s the typical sign of too much alcohol, peer & group thuggery, making themselves think that there so tough!!! )

Orrmate... thanks and if there was a Brit rider in motoGP and there wernt any Aussies then I would most definitely support the Brit, as matter of a fact I think that Bradely Smith is doing such a great job and deserves all the support, I always watch the 125cc and his podium was a really wonderful thing to see, hope he goes well and I am sure that he will one day be right up there in motoGP.
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I dislike Casey Stoner not because hes got a great team and tyre setup but because of his arrogance and over confidence. Its just annoying to see in someone at such a young age with plenty to prove.

Hes also 20 and married, so its clear the kid thinks hes beyond his years and a 7 times world champion!

If he was actually humble and suprised i would be gladly cheering him on.

His victories this season have all been done to at least one factor, bike/tyres... bike only or tyres only.

I will have to see how the season plays out before i can say Stoner is worth as much as he thinks he is.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 24 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dislike Casey Stoner not because hes got a great team and tyre setup but because of his arrogance and over confidence. Its just annoying to see in someone at such a young age with plenty to prove.

Hes also 20 and married, so its clear the kid thinks hes beyond his years and a 7 times world champion!

If he was actually humble and suprised i would be gladly cheering him on.

His victories this season have all been done to at least one factor, bike/tyres... bike only or tyres only.

I will have to see how the season plays out before i can say Stoner is worth as much as he thinks he is.
i no what you mean mate,
although i think over confidence and a little arrogance are whats needed to be be a great racer,just look at past champ's
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the only reason i dont like him is because i support rossi,i didnt like hayden last year and gibbers before him and biaggi before him
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bvut i disliked them in a nice way and miss them now there not there. we all love to hate someone and love to support someone,it's how you show it that makes all the difference imo.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 24 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dislike Casey Stoner not because hes got a great team and tyre setup but because of his arrogance and over confidence. Its just annoying to see in someone at such a young age with plenty to prove.

Hes also 20 and married, so its clear the kid thinks hes beyond his years and a 7 times world champion!

So he is level headed, mature and believes in himself, these are all very good qualities. Also i feel his confidence is justified by his riding, i know i'd think a lot of myself if i was beating Rossi.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 24 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IHis victories this season have all been done to at least one factor, bike/tyres... bike only or tyres only.

More realisticaly Ducati's victories this season have all been down to one factor, its name is Casey.
 
an4rew & roger-m... FFS...To Val’s fans...We don’t want to read any excuses...the Michelins this, the Yammy this and that vAL'S WAS THIS AND THAT or whatever excuses...

Just give credit where it’s due and just admit that the great VR’s days are OVER!!!
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To all of VAL's FANS...NOTE: Casey will NOT GO AWAY...
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...and by the end of the 2007 motoGP season “HE WILL BE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE”

GET OVER IT!!!
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CASEY IS THE BEST!!!
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May be motoGP should have a GP in Sweden in the snow with spiky tires?....but then again Stoner will win that too...lol
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Hes also 20 and married, so its clear the kid thinks hes beyond his years and a 7 times world champion!

Hey an4rew btw...has Val got a girlfriend? or is he still fondling the Claudia Schiffer doll...lol
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 25 2007, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>His victories this season have all been done to at least one factor, bike/tyres... bike only or tyres only.

I will have to see how the season plays out before i can say Stoner is worth as much as he thinks he is.

How can anybody body still be claiming this? Even the riders are trying to dispell these comments. Did you here Edwards? I have said it before in posts but if you want to claim this theory then you must discount many many of Rossi's victories because much of his career has been aboard the best bike by far and the best tyres by far.

Ever heard of the statement "you are only as good as your last ...." Well 2005 was Rossi last Championship and he ain't leading this one either. Casey Stoner is the best rider in the paddock in 2007. Get used to it!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 24 2007, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>More realisticaly Ducati's victories this season have all been down to one factor, its name is Casey.

LoL, now things get inverted.

Tell us serious, c'mon.

What is in Casey's hand is nothing else than a jewel.

Ducati alone = just the best bike without a rider
Stoner alone = just a talented rider without a bike

Ducati + Stoner = a winning team.

The best engine, the best eletronics, the best handling, the best package out there! "Only" this is in Casey's hand and he is winning cause he is just an excelent rider?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Did you here Edwards?

Yes I did hear the interview and the first thing that came to my mind was that Edwards wasn’t a very happy camper as far as Val was concerned and I also think that his statement was related to Val getting the best tyres and equipment in the Fiat Yamaha team, as always....good point TP70
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Jun 25 2007, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LoL, now things get inverted.

Tell us serious, c'mon.

What is in Casey's hand is nothing else than a jewel.

Ducati alone = just the best bike without a rider
Stoner alone = just a talented rider without a bike

Ducati + Stoner = a winning team.

The best engine, the best eletronics, the best handling, the best package out there! "Only" this is in Casey's hand and he is winning cause he is just an excelent rider?

gui22a what about Capirex? He has the same equipment but it’s NOT...

Ducati alone = just the best bike without a rider
Capirex alone = experience of 20 years
Donington & other gp's = perfect example of a racer by NOT a good Ducati rider

A bike alone means zero and the Ducati is not the best bike out there, the Yamaha is just as good if not better in certain aspects and what with the so called best rider of all time second to Giacomo Agostini who btw I don’t consider to have been better then Valentino Rossi!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CSCVAW @ Jun 24 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>gui22a what about Capirex? He has the same equipment but it’s NOT...

Capirossi passed 4 long years driving a twin pulse 990cc mapped engine, and that chassis cost him a lot of work to put in his cerebellum instinctives solutions to keep that horse stand up. Now, the bike is completely other. Also, now Capirossi has a family to watch out.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CSCVAW @ Jun 24 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A bike alone means zero and the Ducati is not the best bike out there, the Yamaha is just as good if not better in certain aspects and what with the so called best rider of all time second to Giacomo Agostini who btw I don’t consider to have been better then Valentino Rossi!

So, look at your own favorite rider's words about Desmo16 GP7 today:

"(...)and now it doesn't have a weak point. (...) Obviously it is the best bike out there at the moment and I cannot complain. "

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 23 2007, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But the crowd has been a disappointment so far, the overwealming majority are smoking, binge drinking pikeys who don't realize that there are riders other than rossi.
What's wrong with smoking and binge drinking?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 23 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i dunno, i think the word fit's perfectly. after all if they had knowledge or training they would no the effort skill and dedication motogp rider have including casey stoner,if they did they would not boo or heckle these riders, so that by definition is ignorant, also the word arrogant fits to.
Spot on Roger.
 
I watched the big brother eviction (dont ask) the other week for the one over there and they booed the person evicted like crazy as well. when i was in aus they did nothing but cheer like crazy. maybe it just what they do?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CSCVAW @ Jun 24 2007, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>an4rew & roger-m... FFS...To Val’s fans...We don’t want to read any excuses...the Michelins this, the Yammy this and that vAL'S WAS THIS AND THAT or whatever excuses...

Just give credit where it’s due and just admit that the great VR’s days are OVER!!!
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To all of VAL's FANS...NOTE: Casey will NOT GO AWAY...
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...and by the end of the 2007 motoGP season “HE WILL BE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE”

GET OVER IT!!!
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CASEY IS THE BEST!!!
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May be motoGP should have a GP in Sweden in the snow with spiky tires?....but then again Stoner will win that too...lol
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what excuses have i made for rossi and where have i not given casey credit, come on mate if your going to name me you could at least have the courtesy to quote my words.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 25 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what excuses have i made for rossi and where have i not given casey credit, come on mate if your going to name me you could at least have the courtesy to quote my words.
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Sorry roger-m... I should have added this....FFS...To Val’s fans and Casey haters or disbelievers... my mistake, then you would have been included.

roger-m that was a ridiculous statement that only proves your knowledge of motoGP! To dislike a rider for everything except his abilities as a motoGP rider is absolutely absurd and ridiculous!!!

Cheers mate
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jun 25 2007, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How can anybody body still be claiming this? Even the riders are trying to dispell these comments. Did you here Edwards? I have said it before in posts but if you want to claim this theory then you must discount many many of Rossi's victories because much of his career has been aboard the best bike by far and the best tyres by far.

Ever heard of the statement "you are only as good as your last ...." Well 2005 was Rossi last Championship and he ain't leading this one either. Casey Stoner is the best rider in the paddock in 2007. Get used to it!

Perfect!

I had got it into my mindset that Donington would, or could be, a turning point in the season. If Valentino had won, the next few weeks could have been critical for the confidence and self belief of Casey.
I couldn't have been more wrong. A totally dominant display from Casey, as dominant as Valentino in 2005 but less out of control!

As for Casey showing signs of arrogance.....where the heck do we get that idea from? The kid is totally humble, and to me that makes a welcome change.

As for the booing.......well that is a sad sign of idiocy. Perhaps it is the football fan element creeping into Moto GP due to its growing popularity, and the showmanship of Valentino having attracted most new fans. In 2006, the British F1 GP was on at the same time as the World Cup. It attracted a completely different attitude from people, and as a trader was the most unpleasant weekend I have ever experienced. Of course, this is also true of our town and city pubs during such an event. Having not seen this type of attitude to a rider for no apparent reason other than jealousy, I can only presume it is down to the changing character of the Valentino fan base.
 
[/quote]the only reason i dont like him is because i support rossi,
roger-m the excuses are right here above “because I support Rossi” what a flimsy excuse, you mightn’t want Stoner to win but why would you dislike him? And agree with such a ridiculous statement as made by an4rew!!! It's sad:(
 
ah so i see you dont have a sense of humor and dont understand sarcasm.
i still cant see where i made excuses for rossi or took credit away from stoner but now you call me a stoner hater !!

ever heard the expression "pot calling the kettle black"
 

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