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Cal Crutchlow???? WTF

Joined Apr 2013
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I am getting tired of everyone commenting on "poor Crutchlow"  the guy is fast but he hasn't done anything to ever show me that he can be a consistent race winner.  Just because he is from the UK he gets a lot of love but has never proven anything.  One podium does not impress me!! He always seems to make a mistake at the worst possible time!!! Every time he is battling with someone he makes a mistake.  I knew he was going to run off yesterday and he did.  Some might argue his engine...blah blah blah, the problem is he makes mistakes when he is in a fight.  He is a good rider and fast but I think the media gives him too much credit because he is from the UK.  He is the same racer as Ben Spies, good and fast but not consistent and makes mistakes. 
 
whooo losing sleep are we thats "Cuckoo"


didnt you see the races yesterday theres more than Cal


i say that as a Cal supporter
 
I don't understand your argument. You are saying he is underserving because he doesn't podium when he is on a Satellite ride. Did you even watch the Qatar race when MM just walked him on the straights on the factory Honda? The only fault I find in Crutchlow is that he does tend to get over eager and make some mistakes but so did Rossi that night. 


 


If Crutchlow was getting podiums on a Satellite ride then the factory riders would be out of a ride. On a satellite ride Crutchlow is shooting for 4-5th place, not podium. He kept pace with MM for more than half the race. If Dovi had a shot at a factory ride (on a Honda no less) then I think Crutchlow has busted his ... enough for a shot. Unfortunately we only have 4 competitive factory rides and too many riders. 
 
The data from qatar would disagree with you - so does Jorge Lorenzo. Both pointed at Cal being the strongest of the Yam riders on the brakes.
 
Kronikinsomniak
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I don't understand your argument. You are saying he is underserving because he doesn't podium when he is on a Satellite ride. Did you even watch the Qatar race when MM just walked him on the straights on the factory Honda? The only fault I find in Crutchlow is that he does tend to get over eager and make some mistakes but so did Rossi that night. 


 


If Crutchlow was getting podiums on a Satellite ride then the factory riders would be out of a ride. On a satellite ride Crutchlow is shooting for 4-5th place, not podium. He kept pace with MM for more than half the race. If Dovi had a shot at a factory ride (on a Honda no less) then I think Crutchlow has busted his ... enough for a shot. Unfortunately we only have competitive factory rides and too many riders. 


I am not arguing that he doesn't deserve a factory ride... I am saying that even if he got one he wouldn't get consistent podiums.  Again, like Ben Spies not consistent and makes mistakes.  I just get tired of hearing the media always saying "poor Crutchlow"  Dovi rode better than him last year and more consistent and Dovi has only one 1 race in the wet!  Crutchlow is not an alien and never will be.  Give him a factory ride and he will podium once or twice....Just tired of the UK media bias towards him when even Ben Spies did more than him on the satellite yamaha
 
Arrabbiata1
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The data from qatar would disagree with you - so does Jorge Lorenzo. Both pointed at Cal being the strongest of the Yam riders on the brakes.


Tell that to Rossi when he outbroke Cal and Cal went off the track!!
 
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Tell that to Rossi when he outbroke Cal and Cal went off the track!!
You need to see the 'Big Picture'.
 
As armchair viewers it's easy to pick holes in how someone rides or doesn't ride, the mistakes they make that they shouldn't have. I know they're supposed to be the best, they shouldn't be there if they're not and yes, Cal has made mistakes. But he's not the only one, Rossi made a clanger near the start of the race, yes he made up for it, but given his team mates pace on the sister bike, he damn well should have ended up where he did!


 


Cal was on last years bike, not an upgraded factory bike, he did a damn good job to hold onto those Honda's the way he did for so long in my opinion. Great riding by him.
 
Lyria
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As armchair viewers it's easy to pick holes in how someone rides or doesn't ride, the mistakes they make that they shouldn't have. I know they're supposed to be the best, they shouldn't be there if they're not and yes, Cal has made mistakes. But he's not the only one, Rossi made a clanger near the start of the race, yes he made up for it, but given his team mates pace on the sister bike, he damn well should have ended up where he did!


 


Cal was on last years bike, not an upgraded factory bike, he did a damn good job to hold onto those Honda's the way he did for so long in my opinion. Great riding by him.


I agree...he rode well.  All I am saying is that he is not a "dark horse" this year and he has never shown me anything to prove otherwise.  He is a good rider comparable to Spies, but has never won a championships and have never been a consistent podium finisher....just sayin
 
bigpicha
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I agree...he rode well.  All I am saying is that he is not a "dark horse" this year and he has never shown me anything to prove otherwise.  He is a good rider comparable to Spies, but has never won a championships and have never been a consistent podium finisher....just sayin


 


He did win the World Supersport Title in his rookie year in the class in 2009.....
 
MigsAngel
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He did win the World Supersport Title in his rookie year in the class in 2009.....


Um, that's like winning the AMA title. After you leave the amateur series, you stop highlighting your accolades.


Cal makes too many mistakes. He has to ride beyond his talent to keep up in the race. If this changes, he'll have some results, otherwise, he'll be as notable as Ben Spies who won a more prestigious title in his first attempt yet delivered nothing in GP.
 
levigarrett
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Um, that's like winning the AMA title. After you leave the amateur series, you stop highlighting your accolades.


Cal makes too many mistakes. He has to ride beyond his talent to keep up in the race. If this changes, he'll have some results, otherwise, he'll be as notable as Ben Spies who won a more prestigious title in his first attempt yet delivered nothing in GP.


 


True enough.....so from now on only GP titles count as real titles....
 
bigpicha
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I agree...he rode well.  All I am saying is that he is not a "dark horse" this year and he has never shown me anything to prove otherwise.  He is a good rider comparable to Spies, but has never won a championships and have never been a consistent podium finisher....just sayin


I think it depends on what kind of rider you are looking for. Dovi and Pedrosa have all had factory rides but they have always been more 2-3 places finishers. I feel like Crutchlow has the more killer instinct like the late Simo and Stoner to go for the win it or bin it race. Remember Stoner did crash on the Duc but he also won races. 


 


 


So yea, he may not be that consistent but he has the potential to actually win it more than Dovi IMO and to many tat deserves a factory shot as the 2nd rider. Given factory backing and another year under his belt his consistency can definitely improve. 
 
levigarrett
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Um, that's like winning the AMA title. After you leave the amateur series, you stop highlighting your accolades.


Cal makes too many mistakes. He has to ride beyond his talent to keep up in the race. If this changes, he'll have some results, otherwise, he'll be as notable as Ben Spies who won a more prestigious title in his first attempt yet delivered nothing in GP.


He has to ride beyond his talent to keep up with the factory bikes on a satellite...I find it hard to fault a guy for willing to put it on a line to win compared to others content to just do laps like many of the other satellites. 


 


Edit: Riders like that are what keep the sport exciting. People like Rossi, Simo, Cal, Stoner, etc because they always go for the kill. Meanwhile fantastic riders like Pedro and Lorenzo fail to gain popularity because they are more calculating to a point of being boring and willing to sit it at 3rd if need be. I know I root for Espargaro more than Randy since that guy pushes that CRT every race and doesn't let the fact that he rides a CRT make him not hungry to keep pushing harder.
 
Kronikinsomniak
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He has to ride beyond his talent to keep up with the factory bikes on a satellite...I find it hard to fault a guy for willing to put it on a line to win compared to others content to just do laps like many of the other satellites. 
Well, if for your entertainment you'd prefer to see the current mistake prone but hard charging Cal, I don't think you'll see him on the factory bike any time soon. Results is what gets you on the works bike, not fast QP sessions punctuated by run off's and DNF's.


If Cal put that bike behind the 4 factory bikes ever single weekend without fail, he'd have a clear claim to better equipment. Instead, last season he was typically bested by Dovi who never appeared to have the same speed. Why?


Lorenzo always places his bike where the setup allows. That my be first or third. Wherever it is, it's what could be obtained with max effort while remaining within the limits. That's why he wins championships. How entertaining is he? Less than Cal perhaps...
 

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