Brno Race Thread

[Jumkie]

Jumkie, try decaf.

Taco Bell, thanks for the Google translation, I think I did a better job. Btw, this is the man that blamed Nicky for Pedro's torpedo. Ah, he's as credible as ever.

(I know I was a bit harsh on you man, don't take it to heart; but you may have had a better chance defending The Prince of Darkness, at least he was an angel in heaven at one time. That is before he ...... up.

 

[Jumkie]

So in other words, it's a Spanish article praising a Spanish person in a sport ruled by Spanish, got ya.

Almost...this isn't just any Spanish person. Puig probably called up the editor of the Spanish site and said, hey fuckers, I need to write some .... and you will print it or I'll have you guys writing stories about melting ice in Iceland (where there is no ice, right Arrabi).

Puig has the power to tell these Spanish sites that if he doesn't get his way then they will get limited access. But its not like he really has to threaten them, ...., they are all in it together. I've read GP described as a defacto Spanish cup, and it is, by design. Do they have talented riders, absolutely. But like uncle Puig so wholeheartedly helped Stoner, by going to KTM. He boldly says Pedro would have won three titles at least had he not been hurt, well, while we are imagining, lets imagine how many 250 titles Pedro would have won if Stoner had got the Honda and Pedro the KTM. Anyway, you know what, I'm done with this little exchange. In conclusion, .... PUIG. He may not have an autographed helmet of Stoner in his house, but I bet he's got a few .... stained drawers of Pedro. And while I'm at it, .... Carmelo and Honda for favoring that ....... while ....... over Nicky.

 

[dwoodhouse]

I think I'm starting to like uncle puig.

 

[dwoodhouse]

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[Geonerd]

Jumkie, try decaf.

It's not coffee he's been drinking...

There is GREAT irony in the Evil One's claim that Peddles would have 3 (THREE!??) titles if not for injury. The first half of 2008 was Dani's best streak in his entire GP career. Upon arrival at Germany, he was actually leading the points (or was within a half dozen of the leader?) Racing in the wet, Dani charged off to take an impressive lead! A win might have propelled him to an eventual title. Alas, Uncle Albert's inner control freak could not let this stand. Alberto sent Dani up the bomb bogus pit signals that indicated his lead was several seconds less than it really was. Thinking the opposition were close behind, Pedrosa kept pushing - and went off, shredding his hand on the slight curb at track's edge. Pedrosa missed the next race and took several months to fully recover. Scratch Title #1. (Where ........ thinks the other two might have come from, I've no clue.)



http://en.wikipedia....season#MotoGP_2









I don't use the word 'evil' lightly, but do apply it to sociopathic dicks like Puig. There ought to be a one-day-a-year open season on these fuckers - our society would benefit greatly!

 

[beefsupreme]

... sociopathic ...

Because he exaggerated the smallness of the gap at Sachsenring? Like I said, Puig flies off the handle, and there were really only two cases, which unfortunately for Hayden fans, both involved #69: blaming Hayden for Estoril '06 and then calling Hayden a hypocrite when Hayden was near the end of his Honda contract. But if you're a Hayden fan, I can understand those things might look like crimes against humanity, and from then on everything is evidence he's Satan.



Aside from that, Puig just seems over-eager in defending what he thinks are Pedrosa's interests, and he talks too much in the media (Pedrosa's virtual championships and laying it on too heavy on Stoner, for example).

 

[Jumkie]

Because he exaggerated the smallness of the gap at Sachsenring? Like I said, Puig flies off the handle, and there were really only two cases, which unfortunately for Hayden fans, both involved #69: blaming Hayden for Estoril '06 and then calling Hayden a hypocrite when Hayden was near the end of his Honda contract. But if you're a Hayden fan, I can understand those things might look like crimes against humanity, and from then on everything is evidence he's Satan.



Aside from that, Puig just seems over-eager in defending what he thinks are Pedrosa's interests, and he talks too much in the media (Pedrosa's virtual championships and laying it on too heavy on Stoner, for example).

Pork Supreme, I'm starting to like you (honestly). Defending Pig is quite amusing, and I'm thanking you for the entertainment value (maybe we can meet up some day for a beer, on me of course). I'm not angry dude, I'm having a real fun time reading your defense of the article and Pig's pronouncements. As Geo above pointed out, its a psycho quality mind that can in one hand say his boy would have won had he not been injured only for the sane world to know that one epic injury was caused indirectly by his (the psycho) own actions. Its funny how you just gloss the two incidents you mentioned over (and I swear to Buddah, I really am 'laughing out loud' as I'm typing this). Puig hijacked the motogp.com site because he has that kind of conniving 'heart'. I can only imagine the .... he's done outside of the public eye if he thought going public was going to 'set the record straight in his favor'. But hey, as long as he's got readers like you, why not give it a shot, eh? I hear what you are claiming, hey, its just that he misconstrued the gap, no big deal, right? Umh, yeah, well look what happened. No big deal, he just ...... his hand up costing him a title (and that's in the mind of Puig to boot).



Puig doesn't just press for the advancement of Pedro. If that were all, I'd say that's honorable. The thing is part of pressing for Pedro takes form in ....... over other's careers. Stoner going to KTM, though I'll admit, a bit of conspiracy, had the desirable effect of relegating one of Dani's main rivals to inferior equipment. Puig is not dumb, I'll give him that, though neither is Satan, eh. hehehehe. I'm not even gonna go into the effect Puig had on Hayden dude (if you think only on two occasions Puig .... on Nicky...) because you'll be asking me for the press release to confirm it. And knowing you, you may want to cite a Puig article of denial as proof that Puig was all on the up and up, hahahaha.



Geo, Puig was counting this year as a title year for Pedro too. How great is it that its Stoner who is now Pedro's nightmare for prospective titles? But then he was taken out by another factory rider....Hahaha, Karma is a mothatfucker, eh?

 

[320IDave]

Wow, and people call Stoner a cry baby.....Then what the hell is Puig?



Reading that article i get the feeling Puig is butt-hurt for making the wrong decision when he had to split these two up, what Stoner said isn't really turning his back on Puig, it's saying things as they are.



the last few lines are ridiculously funny (and harsh also) LOL. " I don't even have an autographed helmet, i owe nothing to Stoner but he and his family do owe to me"



Jumkie, that article was written in "diario deportivo As" it's real Madrid's personal sports new paper, Puig has nothing on them. That said, almost every spanish article written over Stoner needs a double check, people here translate from english like ..... and can easily take things way out of context. In example we have Stoner's last post race interview, "I had to put in something extra for the race" when what Stoner said was: "We found something extra for the race". If the article is about a Spaniard or Rossi they make them look like hero's, if it's about Stoner they will most likely try make him look like a villian.



If Stoner had really turned his back on Puig i would say how wrong it was, but now after reading this .... i could understand if he really turned his back on Puig.

 

[Geonerd]

Because he exaggerated the smallness of the gap at Sachsenring? Like I said, Puig flies off the handle, and there were really only two cases, which unfortunately for Hayden fans, both involved #69: blaming Hayden for Estoril '06 and then calling Hayden a hypocrite when Hayden was near the end of his Honda contract. But if you're a Hayden fan, I can understand those things might look like crimes against humanity, and from then on everything is evidence he's Satan.



Aside from that, Puig just seems over-eager in defending what he thinks are Pedrosa's interests, and he talks too much in the media (Pedrosa's virtual championships and laying it on too heavy on Stoner, for example).

My choice of words was not accidental.



I see Puig as a self serving control freak / power monger who has zero regard for those around him. That, in my book, is a sociopath.



You see, Sociopaths care about nothing, save 'winning.' 12781:Charlie Sheen.gif]

They will do anything to achieve their aims, and will not lose a second's sleep if they have to throw someone (Hayden) under the bus. I think anyone with a conscience would recognize that Nicky got a raw deal at Honda. Such a person would not say the things Puig did about Hayden's tenure at HRC. And to say them in public (!), on MotoGP.com (!!) is almost beyond belief. (See 'grandiosity' below.)



Puig's actions at Sachsenring ended Dani's 2008 title hopes, and could well have ended his career or even life. Puig appears to have a complete disconnect between his act (the falsified pit board) and the consequences. This is textbook sociopathic behavior. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling remorse over their acts. When something they do generates bad results, they rationalize it away - what else can they do?



I'm no shrink, but over the last decade I have encountered a number of high powered Corporate ....... types who have opened my eyes to the fact that 'Functional Sociopaths' do exist in our society. The successful ones (and they do tend to be successful, since they have no sense of morality to hold them back) tend to wind up in positions of power, just like Uncle Albie. They wheel and deal and accumulate power and prestige, since this is all that matters to them. In their wake, they leave a tornado-like swath of damage.



Please watch:



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Hon3AzMO6vs



Robert Hare lists these traits as being core components of sociopathic behavior.



Factor 1: Personality "Aggressive narcissism."

Glibness/superficial charm.

Grandiose sense of self-worth.

Pathological lying.

Cunning/manipulative.

Lack of remorse or guilt.

Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric).

Callousness; lack of empathy.

Failure to accept responsibility for own actions.



Sound familiar?



Hare goes on with a second list of behaviors that are blatantly anti-social. He seems to think that 'true sociopaths' need to be socially dysfuntional (Hannibal time!) to qualify. I'm inclined to see extreme narcissism (the first set of factors) as fully sociopathic. These people are fully capable of extraordinarily destructive yet 'legal' behavior. Fortunately, most extreme narcissists aren't into eating brains; but if they developed or discovered a latent taste, they would have ZERO problem indulging. Just because Puig isn't carving up people for dinner, doesn't mean he's not a real-world sociopath. Jumkie nailed it when saying, "[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I can only imagine the .... he's done outside of the public eye if he thought going public was going to 'set the record straight in his favor'." Like him, I have little doubt that <1% of Alberto's evil is publicly visible. It's the 99% unseen that represents the true damage this man has caused.[/font]



[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]IMO[/font], natch!

 

[Talpa]

It's getting easier to like puig by the minute!!!

Just stirring boners, just stirring.

 

[SuperShinya56]

Pedros sucks...... if he didn't crash, sooner or later he would've drop down the order, that I'm sure of. He just doesn't have 'it'. He's an incomplete rider..... lacks aggressiveness and the fighting spirit. Stoner's been making him look very silly this year, hopping on a new team with a bike build for him, then handing his ... to him.

 

[Jumkie]

My choice of words was not accidental.



I see Puig as a self serving control freak / power monger who has zero regard for those around him. That, in my book, is a sociopath.



You see, Sociopaths care about nothing, save 'winning.' 12781:Charlie Sheen.gif]

They will do anything to achieve their aims, and will not lose a second's sleep if they have to throw someone (Hayden) under the bus. I think anyone with a conscience would recognize that Nicky got a raw deal at Honda. Such a person would not say the things Puig did about Hayden's tenure at HRC. And to say them in public (!), on MotoGP.com (!!) is almost beyond belief. (See 'grandiosity' below.)



Puig's actions at Sachsenring ended Dani's 2008 title hopes, and could well have ended his career or even life. Puig appears to have a complete disconnect between his act (the falsified pit board) and the consequences. This is textbook sociopathic behavior. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling remorse over their acts. When something they do generates bad results, they rationalize it away - what else can they do?



I'm no shrink, but over the last decade I have encountered a number of high powered Corporate ....... types who have opened my eyes to the fact that 'Functional Sociopaths' do exist in our society. The successful ones (and they do tend to be successful, since they have no sense of morality to hold them back) tend to wind up in positions of power, just like Uncle Albie. They wheel and deal and accumulate power and prestige, since this is all that matters to them. In their wake, they leave a tornado-like swath of damage.



Please watch:



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Hon3AzMO6vs



Robert Hare lists these traits as being core components of sociopathic behavior.



Factor 1: Personality "Aggressive narcissism."

Glibness/superficial charm.

Grandiose sense of self-worth.

Pathological lying.

Cunning/manipulative.

Lack of remorse or guilt.

Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric).

Callousness; lack of empathy.

Failure to accept responsibility for own actions.



Sound familiar?



Hare goes on with a second list of behaviors that are blatantly anti-social. He seems to think that 'true sociopaths' need to be socially dysfuntional (Hannibal time!) to qualify. I'm inclined to see extreme narcissism (the first set of factors) as fully sociopathic. These people are fully capable of extraordinarily destructive yet 'legal' behavior. Fortunately, most extreme narcissists aren't into eating brains; but if they developed or discovered a latent taste, they would have ZERO problem indulging. Just because Puig isn't carving up people for dinner, doesn't mean he's not a real-world sociopath. Jumkie nailed it when saying, "[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I can only imagine the .... he's done outside of the public eye if he thought going public was going to 'set the record straight in his favor'." Like him, I have little doubt that <1% of Alberto's evil is publicly visible. It's the 99% unseen that represents the true damage this man has caused.[/font]



[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]IMO[/font], natch!

Wow, dude, fantastic post!



Man, I love PS. You learn something every day.



(now, can you explain what's wrong with 'supershit'? what kind of rare sickness does he have?)

 

[vladut50]

Pedros sucks...... if he didn't crash, sooner or later he would've drop down the order, that I'm sure of. He just doesn't have 'it'. He's an incomplete rider..... lacks aggressiveness and the fighting spirit. Stoner's been making him look very silly this year, hopping on a new team with a bike build for him, then handing his ... to him.

Before the Le Mans crash, Pedrosa was pretty close to Casey in the standings and in the time sheets.....he was very strong and the only reason he would have dropped down the order is because you don't like it, not because he is incomplete and stuff

By the way, Casey likes and admires Pedro and always say goods thinks about him.

 

[FTE217]

Being polite to your team mate doesn't mean you like him - and to date Pedbot hasn't been a threat for a total season now or in the past hehe

 

[dwoodhouse]

Being polite to your team mate doesn't mean you like him - and to date Pedbot hasn't been a threat for a total season now or in the past hehe

So you are laughing at pedro getting hurt.

 

[corinthian]

In 2007 and 2008 Stoner was still singing Puig's praises in interviews. If his opinion has changed since then I guess he'll have his reasons. Puig isn't exactly the most endearing person in the MotoGP circus - his recent comments about Simoncelli spring to mind, and I remember he blamed Hayden for the Estoril incident with Pedrosa. But comparing him with Satan is not fair on either of them - I'm sure the horned one would've garnered a world championship for his efforts by now. Maybe 3.



If we're speculating, I'd like to imagine a world with a Dani Pedrosa whose bones were made out of bone instead of papier-mache. I'll have to look out that recent Puig quote where he said that they had always known Dani had fragile bones. Which reminds me, with regard to his 2008 crash while leading in the wet, blaming that entirely on Puig is a bit cheeky. Pedrosa, by his own admission, was terrible in the wet back then, hated wet races and tended to do poorly. If he pushed on that day it was because he chose to. The board's just a board, even if Puig is holding it.

 

[basspete]

In 2007 and 2008 Stoner was still singing Puig's praises in interviews. If his opinion has changed since then I guess he'll have his reasons. Puig isn't exactly the most endearing person in the MotoGP circus - his recent comments about Simoncelli spring to mind, and I remember he blamed Hayden for the Estoril incident with Pedrosa. But comparing him with Satan is not fair on either of them - I'm sure the horned one would've garnered a world championship for his efforts by now. Maybe 3.



If we're speculating, I'd like to imagine a world with a Dani Pedrosa whose bones were made out of bone instead of papier-mache. I'll have to look out that recent Puig quote where he said that they had always known Dani had fragile bones. Which reminds me, with regard to his 2008 crash while leading in the wet, blaming that entirely on Puig is a bit cheeky. Pedrosa, by his own admission, was terrible in the wet back then, hated wet races and tended to do poorly. If he pushed on that day it was because he chose to. The board's just a board, even if Puig is holding it.

Hey I kinda like you..........do you like penguins?



Pete

 

[Keshav]

Wow, dude, fantastic post!



Man, I love PS. You learn something every day.



(now, can you explain what's wrong with 'supershit'? what kind of rare sickness does he have?)

Head droppings.... as in, too many during early childhood.

 

[corinthian]

Hey I kinda like you..........do you like penguins?



Pete

Weeeell... I like Phillip Island, which was built by penguins. Does that count?

 

[Jumkie]

So you are laughing at pedro getting hurt.

Thats what u got out if his comment. (notice im stating it not asking u). Where is the rolling eyes emoticon? (that is a question).