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Bridgestone, Stoner, Rossi

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 19 2008, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nevertheless, whenever he talks it just reminds me of how young he is.
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So what's Rossi's excuse?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 20 2008, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what's Rossi's excuse?
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The official line is "Jesus made me say it" but he could be talking about his dad
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crvlvr @ Mar 20 2008, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All I can say is, poor Rossi..

hmmmmmm are they snubbing him?


http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new..._road_tyre.html


but I guess this guy perhaps sums it up best:

from:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/hav..._road_tyre.html

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Rember this is purely PR. Valentino has developed hardly anything yet at Bridgestone. The other riders mentioned have, so they can take some pride that this is a MotoGP derived tyre. Bridgestone's PR department know that Rossi's attendance does not add to the 'derived from MotoGP technology' thing. It just wouldn't be credible. This is PR only and has little to do with MotoGP. Bridgestone must be happy crash.net posted this...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 19 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The official line is "Jesus made me say it" but he could be talking about his dad
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Nice one, well done. haha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crvlvr @ Mar 19 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All I can say is, poor Rossi..

I think they should just get rid of the qualifying tire.
I don't understand what you mean, please explain. Are you being sarcastic? If so, oops, I need to upgrade my sarcasto-meter. If not, why poor Rossi? Did he not get the Bstones as he so desired?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 19 2008, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but I guess this guy perhaps sums it up best:
What points do you agree with that were summed up? Please elaborate.
 
jeez guys it ain't no big deal. rags like mcn spew out this tabloid crap and everybody buys it. There's every liklihood that rossi and stoner said what we're told but i wouldn't worry about it or read into just so much.
casey is saying what he said all last year, first two rows will do. what's the big deal? rossi said he'd like a front qualifier, testing showed he needs it, nothing wrong with asking. if bridgsetone want to accomodate him, fair dinkum.

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"the game is on"...j4rn0, do you write for MCN?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 19 2008, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand what you mean, please explain. Are you being sarcastic? If so, oops, I need to upgrade my sarcasto-meter. If not, why poor Rossi? Did he not get the Bstones as he so desired? Yes, Rossi got what he wanted. But, now if they don't work out for him, he has no one to blame but himself.

"Poor Rossi", comment was made becuase Stoner was making him seem like a whiner by implying that rossi was asking for stuff that was irrelevant. In otherwords, if Stoner could qualify with a RACE front on the second row and win the race from that position, why can't Rossi?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Mar 20 2008, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>His spelling is far too good
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ha yes i take that back, j4rn0 buddy you are obviously way too intelligent to write for said 'rag'.
 
I have an idea that could work. First have only one qualifying session at the beginning of the season which will determine the starting positions for the first race only. Secondly simply reverse the finishing order for the next races starting grid (whoever finishes last gets pole position, whoever wins starts dead last. This will eliminates the need for qualifying tires. It will also create the best races and create a sort of "forced parity". The races will be full of excitement as the fast boys try to charge their way to the front. Bonus points will be given to riders who start the races from the back of the pack. What do you guys think?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Mar 21 2008, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have an idea that could work. First have only one qualifying session at the beginning of the season which will determine the starting positions for the first race only. Secondly simply reverse the finishing order for the next races starting grid (whoever finishes last gets pole position, whoever wins starts dead last. This will eliminates the need for qualifying tires. It will also create the best races and create a sort of "forced parity". The races will be full of excitement as the fast boys try to charge their way to the front. Bonus points will be given to riders who start the races from the back of the pack. What do you guys think?

Sounds just like the Ponies!!

Isn't motogp about finding the best rider/machine/team/development?

Its not a "fair play" by handicapping formula
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Mar 20 2008, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have an idea that could work. First have only one qualifying session at the beginning of the season which will determine the starting positions for the first race only. Secondly simply reverse the finishing order for the next races starting grid (whoever finishes last gets pole position, whoever wins starts dead last. This will eliminates the need for qualifying tires. It will also create the best races and create a sort of "forced parity". The races will be full of excitement as the fast boys try to charge their way to the front. Bonus points will be given to riders who start the races from the back of the pack. What do you guys think?
Sorry Ogunski, I can't really say I think it’s a good idea. It would take the competitiveness out of qualifying and it might also be more dangerous for the faster guys coming up the field because they were relegated to the back--to make it more “interesting” for us or a perception that Q tires should be taken out of the equation. Good try though; at least you are thinking buddy.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Mar 21 2008, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have an idea that could work. First have only one qualifying session at the beginning of the season which will determine the starting positions for the first race only. Secondly simply reverse the finishing order for the next races starting grid (whoever finishes last gets pole position, whoever wins starts dead last. This will eliminates the need for qualifying tires. It will also create the best races and create a sort of "forced parity". The races will be full of excitement as the fast boys try to charge their way to the front. Bonus points will be given to riders who start the races from the back of the pack. What do you guys think?for the spectator that would indeed be hugely entertaining. riders would never go for it on safety grounds. it's an interesting idea though.
 
It's rather simple, Stoner has done it his whole career, even on dirt bikes. He thinks and he knows that the machine and equipment can only do so much.......the rider has to ride around the packages deficiencys, unlike Rossi he isnt going to cry out for a new Q tyre for every track. He's going to learn how to race the package he's got now and learn to race it well, Bayliss does the same in SBK, dont keep fiddling with the stuff, learn how to ride what you've got.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Caseyfan @ Mar 21 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's rather simple, Stoner has done it his whole career, even on dirt bikes. He thinks and he knows that the machine and equipment can only do so much.......the rider has to ride around the packages deficiencys, unlike Rossi he isnt going to cry out for a new Q tyre for every track. He's going to learn how to race the package he's got now and learn to race it well, Bayliss does the same in SBK, dont keep fiddling with the stuff, learn how to ride what you've got.

Thats a fair point Caseyfan, though i think it might be in Bridgestones best interest to create a front qualifier as apart from Stoner himself, everyone else on Bridgestones seems to struggle...

Though they could alleviate the whole problem by just doing away with qualifying!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Mar 20 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>jeez guys it ain't no big deal. rags like mcn spew out this tabloid crap and everybody buys it. There's every liklihood that rossi and stoner said what we're told but i wouldn't worry about it or read into just so much.
casey is saying what he said all last year, first two rows will do. what's the big deal? rossi said he'd like a front qualifier, testing showed he needs it, nothing wrong with asking. if bridgsetone want to accomodate him, fair dinkum.

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"the game is on"...j4rn0, do you write for MCN?

Nope, I do not even read MCN. I prefer GPone.com...
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I would not dismiss the significance of Rossi asking for a specific development and Stoner immediately intervening to dismiss that as unimportant. This is not only mind games, it is battling for determining the direction of Bridgestone development efforts. It is naif to think that Bridgestone can accomodate all different requests, even if their resources are not stretched their focus will be either one way or the other.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 21 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nope, I do not even read MCN. I prefer GPone.com...
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I would not dismiss the significance of Rossi asking for a specific development and Stoner immediately intervening to dismiss that as unimportant. This is not only mind games, it is battling for determining the direction of Bridgestone development efforts. It is naif to think that Bridgestone can accomodate all different requests, even if their resources are not stretched their focus will be either one way or the other.

Certainly would distract them when they would not want it .....

Boy I bet Bridgestone must be pissed at there current situation

But to their credit they are acknowledging that they are having difficulty with everyone but Stoner.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Caseyfan @ Mar 21 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's rather simple, Stoner has done it his whole career, even on dirt bikes. He thinks and he knows that the machine and equipment can only do so much.......the rider has to ride around the packages deficiencys, unlike Rossi he isnt going to cry out for a new Q tyre for every track. He's going to learn how to race the package he's got now and learn to race it well, Bayliss does the same in SBK, dont keep fiddling with the stuff, learn how to ride what you've got.
you dont remember as far back as 06 then mate.
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