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Bridgepoint to bring MotoGP and WSBK under one umbrella

Interesting. Wonder how this poll will develope.



http://www.crash.net...ed_line_be.html

I have no solution to the ills of motogp, so perhaps i should stop criticising dorna. My problem is that their "solutions" often seem arbitrary, hastily decided, and poorly thought through, even if well intentioned.



I think everyone thinks there should be less rider aids, and in particular no track position aware mapping. If there is a concerted strategy involved in a control ecu then it is perhaps a good idea. If dorna are doing it just because F1 did it, which often seems to be the case with their decisions, then I am not so keen. At the moment wsbk which is much less expensive and has close racing, supposedly Dorna's main aims, doesn't have a control ecu, and I can see why honda, however much they may have contributed to current problems in motogp, may think it is an arbitrary decision. David Emmett says all the current manufacturers don't want the control ecu, and that suzuki don't want to return if there is a control ecu. Changing the rules all the time is absolutely the worst thing for the sport, and ezy/dorna have certainly contributed very significantly to that.



Again, if ezy has a strategy for the long term future of the sport based on expert advice, and all his current posturing is to achieve that, then that might also be good. At the moment he seems to be veering from having manufacturers, not having manufacturers at all, having less satellite bikes, having more cheaper satellite bikes, having CRT bikes as the future, and having a "moto 1 " spec formula similar to moto 2. I am not sure where even his previous baby, CRT, stands at the moment. Making a top grade ecu available cheaply for the CRT teams is one thing he has done which is hard to argue with though as zootalaws has said.



All this is aside from what he is going to do with wsbk, I am told the BSB rules with minimal rider aids work well, and this might not be a bad thing as a universal formula. He obviously can't be totally independent of the manufacturers in wsbk though, as they produce the base bikes.
 
Plenty of journos are speculating Ezy holds all the cards and will get his control ecu. I cant see it happening.



The negotiation would be simple. Reminder the riders are contracted to the manufacturers not to DORNA. Ezy got nothin to bargin with. Honda and Yamaha hold the cards of Rossi, Marquez, Lorenzo and Pedro who are contracted for the next two years. They can pull out with the four of them, or minimum ban them from motogp.



Meanwhile Ezy holds the CRT card
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He'd have to wait out the next two years then offer $40 M to get these riders on CRT's in 2015. And he complains about $3M lease fees.



The SBK take over was either in desperation, or he's not completely stupid. If its the latter, I predict Ezy plays his control ecu card as a bluff, Honda and Yamaha will play the threaten to walk with said riders card, Ezy will back down, no control ecu rather from 2014 its 24L and 9 engines for all. Hopefully they can all agree to that. Then he puts the control ecu in SBK forcing the likes of BMW, Suzuki, Aprilia and Kawasaki to join motogp if they want free electronics. That would be clever negotiation. We'll find out soon enough.
 
Bird, the riders contracts are two way MGP contracts. The riders are contracted to ride AND the manufacturered are contracted to supply a motorcycle. Honda and/or Yam pull out and supply no bike, contract is broken and the riders can hire on where ever they like! There is no "rider card" for the manufacturers to play.
 
Looking forward to it,the more ive thought about it the better it sounds. For you non believers in CRT and capped electronics if nothing is done now in a few years Honda and Yamaha's accountants will force them to pull out and after that Moto gp will be dead.

One thing Ezzy isnt is stupid,he has a golden goose and in this financial climate the big two are killing it and he's not oing to let that happen,i dont see what the problem is,a grid full of relatively close CRT's (which will only get better) or no Moto gp.
 
Bird, the riders contracts are two way MGP contracts. The riders are contracted to ride AND the manufacturered are contracted to supply a motorcycle. Honda and/or Yam pull out and supply no bike, contract is broken and the riders can hire on where ever they like! There is no "rider card" for the manufacturers to play.



100% correct
 
Plenty of journos are speculating Ezy holds all the cards and will get his control ecu. I cant see it happening.



The negotiation would be simple. Reminder the riders are contracted to the manufacturers not to DORNA. Ezy got nothin to bargin with. Honda and Yamaha hold the cards of Rossi, Marquez, Lorenzo and Pedro who are contracted for the next two years. They can pull out with the four of them, or minimum ban them from motogp.



Meanwhile Ezy holds the CRT card
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He'd have to wait out the next two years then offer $40 M to get these riders on CRT's in 2015. And he complains about $3M lease fees.



The SBK take over was either in desperation, or he's not completely stupid. If its the latter, I predict Ezy plays his control ecu card as a bluff, Honda and Yamaha will play the threaten to walk with said riders card, Ezy will back down, no control ecu rather from 2014 its 24L and 9 engines for all. Hopefully they can all agree to that. Then he puts the control ecu in SBK forcing the likes of BMW, Suzuki, Aprilia and Kawasaki to join motogp if they want free electronics. That would be clever negotiation. We'll find out soon enough.



100% incorrect
 
Predictions:



1. Ezpeleta will get the control ECU. He holds all the cards, and he wants it. He has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak.



2. Honda will pull out. Nakamoto has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak. Moto2 will still be CBR600 engines, Honda will continue to compete in Moto3. This withdrawal will be for the 2014 season.



3. Honda will hold Pedrosa and Marquez to their contracts. That means they will have to pay them a lot of money not to ride, as factories have done in the past. Pedrosa will take the money and retire, Marquez will buy his way out of his contract, with money from Dorna.



4. Yamaha and Ducati will stay, Suzuki will join MotoGP in 2014. Marquez will race a Yamaha of some sort, a full factory bike with full factory backing. There is a very good chance that Dorna will drop the four-bikes-per-factory rule to make this happen, unsurprisingly.



5. In WSBK, Ezpeleta will introduce an engine allocation and a spec ECU, and a few more tweaks to the technical rules. Pirelli will be dumped (they have apparently already decided to pull out) and Michelin will take their place.



6. The world of motorcycle racing will look surprisingly similar. The fans complaining that MotoGP is going to the dogs will continue to do so, and will continue to threaten to stop watching the series. WSBK will continue to have more factory involvement than MotoGP, and might even get better online viewing options. Sponsors, riders and teams will move more freely between the two championships. But Ezpeleta will ensure that MotoGP gets top billing in everything and remains the premier series. WSBK will remain the series of choice for the hardcore racing fanatic.



7. What will change is that rider salaries will be slashed in MotoGP, especially for the top riders. Without Honda, top riders will go from earning 8 figure sums to 7 figure sums. Satellite riders' salaries will return to a couple of hundred thousand a year instead of nearly a million. Jorge Lorenzo will still be able to afford his apartment in Barcelona.
 
Predictions:



2. Honda will pull out. Nakamoto has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak. Moto2 will still be CBR600 engines, Honda will continue to compete in Moto3. This withdrawal will be for the 2014 season.



Honda shows interest in F1 for 2014, so no resource problem!!



Would Honda still compete in WSBK under TenKate's guise.
 
Motogp should fix its problems without interfering with WSBK, I don't see the pragmatic point of taking two series, 1 working and 1 struggling and fixing them by breaking the working one.



Except the word is, it is just as bad in WSBK - shrinking grids, 'haves and have-nots' getting preferential deals, costs going through the roof.



Mat Oxley just wrote a good article about it: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp/if-i-was-king-of-motogp-and-wsb/



[font=arial, sans-serif]Inevitably, there are already rumours that the two will ultimately be merged into one. I&rsquo;ve always wondered whether motorcycling is big enough to sustain MotoGP and WSB. The size of the grids in both championships would suggest that it isn&rsquo;t. WSB&rsquo;s struggles haven&rsquo;t made headlines like MotoGP&rsquo;s woes, but the series is seriously underfunded, with many private teams barely able to stay in business and no more bikes on the grid than MotoGP.[/font]





Totally separate and without google Didn't cyzcz make a beautiful transverse v4 thingy a while ago?



I am not sure - a mate of mine has invested in Csysz, but looks to have done his dough, he's all about TTXGP now.



Double Edit - Zootalaws is the Frank Zappa song right? - have I asked the obvious?



Not that I'm aware... and I've listened to a lot of Zappa. I suspect we have similarly weird senses of humour (Frank and I... not too sure about you
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It's a pun - Zut Alors! French for '.... Me!'
 
Plenty of journos are speculating Ezy holds all the cards and will get his control ecu. I cant see it happening...



Meanwhile Ezy holds the CRT card
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He'd have to wait out the next two years then offer $40 M to get these riders on CRT's in 2015. And he complains about $3M lease fees.



Dorna contributes a third of HRC's racing MotoGP budget. That's into the tens of millions of dollars. Then there's the (very profitable) Moto2 business and the (very profitable) Moto1 business. Honda sells bikes not only to Mot1 and Moto2 teams, but across the globe into home series using identical machinery. HOw much money do you think they would be making if they pulled out and Dorna put another manufacturer in their place? Who's laughing now?



The SBK take over was either in desperation, or he's not completely stupid. If its the latter, I predict Ezy plays his control ecu card as a bluff, Honda and Yamaha will play the threaten to walk with said riders card, Ezy will back down, no control ecu rather from 2014 its 24L and 9 engines for all. Hopefully they can all agree to that. Then he puts the control ecu in SBK forcing the likes of BMW, Suzuki, Aprilia and Kawasaki to join motogp if they want free electronics. That would be clever negotiation. We'll find out soon enough.



It wasn't desperation and he isn't stupid. It was a very astute move. He has been trying to get the MSMA to play ball for around three or so years, without much luck. They keep throwing the 'WSBK' card back at him.



He has, in one fell swoop, castrated the MSMA - they have nowhere left to go. He has trumped their ace. And before people make 'breakaway series' noises, they need to take into account the cost of setting up a competing series. It will need significant revenue from the get-go. No broadcaster is going to pay a bundle for something that might have no viewers, the same goes for advertisers. Then there are the tracks. The track owners make a bundle off MotoGP and WSBK, if they are after a date in the future, they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot by taking on Dorna's competitors.



The cost of getting the tracks up to spec, organising a competent tyre provider, finding riders and crews, safety staff, race direction, there is a myriad of roles they need to fill, and pay for, before they turn a wheel.



MotoGP and WSBK were decades in the making - to do that from scratch is a half-billion-dollar venture.
 
Predictions:



1. Ezpeleta will get the control ECU. He holds all the cards, and he wants it. He has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak.



2. Honda will pull out. Nakamoto has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak. Moto2 will still be CBR600 engines, Honda will continue to compete in Moto3. This withdrawal will be for the 2014 season.



3. Honda will hold Pedrosa and Marquez to their contracts. That means they will have to pay them a lot of money not to ride, as factories have done in the past. Pedrosa will take the money and retire, Marquez will buy his way out of his contract, with money from Dorna.



4. Yamaha and Ducati will stay, Suzuki will join MotoGP in 2014. Marquez will race a Yamaha of some sort, a full factory bike with full factory backing. There is a very good chance that Dorna will drop the four-bikes-per-factory rule to make this happen, unsurprisingly.



5. In WSBK, Ezpeleta will introduce an engine allocation and a spec ECU, and a few more tweaks to the technical rules. Pirelli will be dumped (they have apparently already decided to pull out) and Michelin will take their place.



6. The world of motorcycle racing will look surprisingly similar. The fans complaining that MotoGP is going to the dogs will continue to do so, and will continue to threaten to stop watching the series. WSBK will continue to have more factory involvement than MotoGP, and might even get better online viewing options. Sponsors, riders and teams will move more freely between the two championships. But Ezpeleta will ensure that MotoGP gets top billing in everything and remains the premier series. WSBK will remain the series of choice for the hardcore racing fanatic.



7. What will change is that rider salaries will be slashed in MotoGP, especially for the top riders. Without Honda, top riders will go from earning 8 figure sums to 7 figure sums. Satellite riders' salaries will return to a couple of hundred thousand a year instead of nearly a million. Jorge Lorenzo will still be able to afford his apartment in Barcelona.





One of several things I like about you Kropo, is you have the balls to put your opinions out there and on the line. Nonetheless, based on some of your previous predictions, I&rsquo;ll take these above in their proper perspective.
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A few things, Honda pulling out is one thing, hard enough to believe maybe, but hey, they did it here in the AMA, so I'll go for that one and actually welcome it. But keeping their riders from riding, uhm, not going to happen buddy. The public outrage of not allowing some of the best riders to ride would be too much.



Also, don't confuse those that supposedly "boycott" the series, with those who, with good reason, criticize the series and its blatant corruption and favoritism. The criticism for those few running the sport who continue to further contrive and diminish the series, draining it of all what should be an authentic competition, is well placed. With all do respect, you seem to take the criticism on the sport a bit personal it seems, as this is a recurring theme I&rsquo;ve seen you mention a few times. I also love the sport buddy. The bitching and complaining isn't without merit. Also keep in mind, it is of little to no consequence, as those of us who do ..... and complain about the series are a few hardcore fans. For the mass majority of the public, they don't give a .... and are for the most part unaware of the machinate. Hell, even the media burry their heads in the sand for much of it and don't call out the contrived nature of the goings on; its not like we expect the media to do so, right? (sarcasm for affect) We have little to no real investigative reporting in the regular world, much less in a niche sport. I have yet to read a piece calling out the shenanigans that landed VR back onto a factory Yamaha or the sudden elimination of the rookie rule all of which quite obviously accomplished by the league (which is suppose to be impartial) for the darlings of the sport, which in affect means the rest of the field are unfairly represented. I guess the media are also waiting for the official press release from Carmelo's office that admits backroom deals and horse-trading; I mean really, the media have never speculated, right? (sarcasm) So buddy, our complaining may amount to just a pet peeve for you; but nothing more actually. Maybe we should just shut up and let Carmelo continue to prop up his favorite sons, eh? Hahaha. I for one am well aware I&rsquo;m watching a ........ competition, but I tune for several reasons despite this reality. All you need to know about results and the idea of &ldquo;aliens&rdquo; is the results that VR is bound to get next year.



Regarding the prediction that Ducati will stay, of course Ducati will stay, they need to redeem some of the damage done by the sport&rsquo;s beloved son to their brand. They are to blame though, as they also drank the kool-aid that VR/JB were an &ldquo;alien&rdquo; combination. Which BTW, his name was absent from your predictions. I predict the series will continue to revolve around VRs name. Ducati seem not to realize that the rules have gone for the most part against them. From the short lived proposed rev limit back in 2007ish, to the loss of working exclusively with Bridgestone, to the tire development going decidedly away from their particular machine, to the engine rule given their chassis design, etc. etc. they seem not to make the connection that they were not going to be competing in a series that at very least leveled the field. They stayed anyway. I would say that if they lose their main sponsor, then may it would spell doom for their participation in the series. That, or maybe somebody has finally got smart and thought out on possible consequence if HRC does leave, then they might get some relief in terms of rules and results to follow. But lets be honest, as long as VR is on a Japanese bike the Italian manufacture, absent one CS, will never see another title.
 
Predictions:



1. Ezpeleta will get the control ECU. He holds all the cards, and he wants it. He has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak.



I truly believe that if HRC accept 24L of fuel and a lower rev limit (e.g. 15,000rpm), the spec ECU proposals will be put to bed. As Ezpeleta said himself (predictably), he's not for a spec ECU or a rev limit, he's for reducing costs. Revising the fuel limit to 24L and implementing a low rev limit would be more than enough to reduce costs; especially if MM have already agreed to give hardware away for free.



2. Honda will pull out. Nakamoto has gone too far and can't back out without being seen to be weak. Moto2 will still be CBR600 engines, Honda will continue to compete in Moto3. This withdrawal will be for the 2014 season.



3. Honda will hold Pedrosa and Marquez to their contracts. That means they will have to pay them a lot of money not to ride, as factories have done in the past. Pedrosa will take the money and retire, Marquez will buy his way out of his contract, with money from Dorna.



4. Yamaha and Ducati will stay, Suzuki will join MotoGP in 2014. Marquez will race a Yamaha of some sort, a full factory bike with full factory backing. There is a very good chance that Dorna will drop the four-bikes-per-factory rule to make this happen, unsurprisingly.



Probably all true, unless HRC come to their senses.



5. In WSBK, Ezpeleta will introduce an engine allocation and a spec ECU, and a few more tweaks to the technical rules. Pirelli will be dumped (they have apparently already decided to pull out) and Michelin will take their place.



I don't think engine allocation will happen unless Dorna/FIM cannot agree on homologation papers. MotoGP does not have strict homologation. Production racing, on the other hand, is based entirely on homologation. They can homologate compression limits or low fixed rev limits, or they can use the Supersport strategy and ban valve lift modifications. AMA SBK has already banned lift mods (IIRC), and the bikes are still close in horsepower numbers. If the engines have wide tolerances for the top end, the engines should last longer and still produce relatively normalized power. The current rules encourage prototype pistons and maximization of valve lift. When you mix these mods with chain-drive valves and high rev ceilings, the refresh rate is alarming.



6. The world of motorcycle racing will look surprisingly similar. The fans complaining that MotoGP is going to the dogs will continue to do so, and will continue to threaten to stop watching the series. WSBK will continue to have more factory involvement than MotoGP, and might even get better online viewing options. Sponsors, riders and teams will move more freely between the two championships. But Ezpeleta will ensure that MotoGP gets top billing in everything and remains the premier series. WSBK will remain the series of choice for the hardcore racing fanatic.



7. What will change is that rider salaries will be slashed in MotoGP, especially for the top riders. Without Honda, top riders will go from earning 8 figure sums to 7 figure sums. Satellite riders' salaries will return to a couple of hundred thousand a year instead of nearly a million. Jorge Lorenzo will still be able to afford his apartment in Barcelona.



As long as MotoGP doesn't deteriorate into a competition between private teams, I think complaining about MotoGP will cease. A 24L-1000cc-15,000rpm formula would create an incredibly fun series, like WSBK, assuming they can get the GP tires right. As a result, the riders should become more important. Perhaps the top riders will see their salaries dip as the amount of competitive equipment increases, revealing the true gap between riders like Stoner and Barbera (probably a few tenths, not 2 seconds). Cumulatively, I think salaries for the midpack and lower tier riders will increase b/c the rider will become a bigger part of the GP equation.
 
Hell, even the media burry their heads in the sand for much of it and don't call out the contrived nature of the goings on; its not like we expect the media to do so, right? (sarcasm for affect) We have little to no real investigative reporting in the regular world, much less in a niche sport. I have yet to read a piece calling out the shenanigans that landed VR back onto a factory Yamaha or the sudden elimination of the rookie rule all of which quite obviously accomplished by the league (which is suppose to be impartial) for the darlings of the sport, which in affect means the rest of the field are unfairly represented.



Just because an outcome is favorable for the sport does not mean that shenanigans are required. Rossi wanted out of Ducati, Yamaha needed a title sponsor, someone in Japan charged with raising sponsorship told Yamaha's executive board "the only way we will get a title sponsor is if we have Rossi." Rossi agreed to come back to Yamaha for very little money, and leave the excess baggage (i.e. everyone not working in the garage) at Ducati. It was very simple.



Ezpeleta's remarks that 'Rossi will be on a competitive bike next year' are as easy to interpret with hindsight as any of Nostrodamus' predictions. Did Ezpeleta want Rossi on a Honda or Yamaha? Definitely. Did he have anything to do with the move? He didn't have to get involved.



As for the Rookie Rule, Marquez' problem was that he came with oil sponsorship, and none of the satellite teams wanted him. Having Marquez on your books for one year means you gut your team, firing everyone you have worked with for the past 10 years, lose your oil sponsor who has been with you for 10 years, get the benefit of Marquez for 1 year, then try to rebuild what you have just destroyed. The shenanigans came when Spies was blocked in the factory team, and forced to go to Tech 3. But Spies came with much less baggage than Marquez.
 
I truly believe that if HRC accept 24L of fuel and a lower rev limit (e.g. 15,000rpm), the spec ECU proposals will be put to bed. As Ezpeleta said himself (predictably), he's not for a spec ECU or a rev limit, he's for reducing costs. Revising the fuel limit to 24L and implementing a low rev limit would be more than enough to reduce costs; especially if MM have already agreed to give hardware away for free.



The 24 liter allowance is a necessary part of spec electronics. If you give the bikes more fuel, they can tighten the spec electronics package (more than the just the ECU, it is the entire package, sensors, wiring harness, data logger, the whole nine yards) to allow just fuel maps. No more complex engine braking strategies to conserve fuel, just focus on optimizing air-fuel ratios.
 
Ezpeleta's remarks that 'Rossi will be on a competitive bike next year' are as easy to interpret with hindsight as any of Nostrodamus' predictions. Did Ezpeleta want Rossi on a Honda or Yamaha? Definitely. Did he have anything to do with the move? He didn't have to get involved.





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Dude, hindsight? Hahaha. The day Carmelo said it, that very same day people knew immediately what it meant and wrote it here on this fine forum for posterity; all that was needed was the press release by either Honda or Yamaha for us to know where VR would end up. I suppose you also believed as he strung along the public that he hadn&rsquo;t made up his mind to leave Ducati? Ducati was only an option in the unlikely event a backroom deal could not be brokered with a Japanese manufacture. Even Honda had a change of heart and offered him a factory bike under satellite colors. Did you think when Carmelo said a "competitive bike" he meant Ducati?!? Hahaha. Come on dude. No need for Nostradamus' clairvoyance, if anybody thought Ezy referred to Ducati as a &ldquo;competitive&rdquo; possibility, that person is a fool. Maybe he didn't have to get involved as you say, since a simple nod or stare might have been enough to get his point across, not to mention his damn public quote, yet that still doesn't mean he refrained from getting integrally involved. Again, don't expect for him to issue a press release. Plain and simple, when he said a "competitive bike" for VR next year, who the hell thought this meant Ducati?!?



It doesn&rsquo;t get any more obvious. The revisionist have dissected his quote and concluded, &lsquo;What? What&rsquo;s the problem? Nothing to see here?&rsquo; Hahaha Reminds me of Bill Clintons infamous quote &ldquo;It depends on what the meaning of the word &ldquo;is&rdquo; is.&rdquo; You guys have failed to read the simple meaning and context and the situation the sport found itself in with its greatest start languishing in the mid-pack. You guys have gone into hyper dissections of the sentence. By the end of your analysis, maybe he wasn&rsquo;t talking about VR after all, eh?
 
The 24 liter allowance is a necessary part of spec electronics. If you give the bikes more fuel, they can tighten the spec electronics package (more than the just the ECU, it is the entire package, sensors, wiring harness, data logger, the whole nine yards) to allow just fuel maps. No more complex engine braking strategies to conserve fuel, just focus on optimizing air-fuel ratios.



I'm not surprised to hear that the spec-ECU requires higher fuel limits; however, neither 24L rev limit nor rev-limits (according to Nakamoto) do not require a spec-ECU. I'm more interested in the latter scenario. If the MSMA sign off on 24L and a rev limit to control top speeds, I think HRC can convince Dorna to drop the spec-ECU.



The most interesting part about the necessity of 24L with a spec-ECU is that the announcement of a spec-ECU should guarantee HRC's withdrawal.
 
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Dude, hindsight? Hahaha. The day Carmelo said it, that very same day people knew immediately what it meant and wrote it here on this fine forum for posterity; all that was needed was the press release by either Honda or Yamaha for us to know where VR would end up. I suppose you also believed as he strung along the public that he hadn&rsquo;t made up his mind to leave Ducati? Ducati was only an option in the unlikely event a backroom deal could not be brokered with a Japanese manufacture. Even Honda had a change of heart and offered him a factory bike under satellite colors. Did you think when Carmelo said a "competitive bike" he meant Ducati?!? Hahaha. Come on dude. No need for Nostradamus' clairvoyance, if anybody thought Ezy referred to Ducati as a &ldquo;competitive&rdquo; possibility, that person is a fool. Maybe he didn't have to get involved as you say, since a simple nod or stare might have been enough to get his point across, not to mention his damn public quote, yet that still doesn't mean he refrained from getting integrally involved. Again, don't expect for him to issue a press release. Plain and simple, when he said a "competitive bike" for VR next year, who the hell thought this meant Ducati?!?



It doesn&rsquo;t get any more obvious. The revisionist have dissected his quote and concluded, &lsquo;What? What&rsquo;s the problem? Nothing to see here?&rsquo; Hahaha Reminds me of Bill Clintons infamous quote &ldquo;It depends on what the meaning of the word &ldquo;is&rdquo; is.&rdquo; You guys have failed to read the simple meaning and context and the situation the sport found itself in with its greatest start languishing in the mid-pack. You guys have gone into hyper dissections of the sentence. By the end of your analysis, maybe he wasn&rsquo;t talking about VR after all, eh?



Ezpeleta will say almost anything to journalists when they annoy him. An Italian journalist at an F1 race asks about Rossi, Ezpeleta, just about to sink his chops into a particularly tasty slice of Pata Negra ham, says "Oh, don't worry, he'll be on a competitive bike next year." People then take him seriously....



Here's a tip: if you want to be a pundit at absolutely anything, all you have to do is make lots and lots and lots of predictions. People will remember the ones you get right, but not the ones you get wrong.
 
I'm not surprised to hear that the spec-ECU requires higher fuel limits; however, neither 24L rev limit nor rev-limits (according to Nakamoto) do not require a spec-ECU. I'm more interested in the latter scenario. If the MSMA sign off on 24L and a rev limit to control top speeds, I think HRC can convince Dorna to drop the spec-ECU.



The spec ECU is coming. The fuel limit is there to help ease the coming of the spec ECU. Dorna have decided that they need the spec ECU more than they need Honda. Nakamoto desperately does not want a spec ECU, so he is putting forward any argument he can find to stop it. He said that Yamaha, Suzuki and Ducati are against a spec ECU. He is technically correct, but Ducati have already told Dorna they are willing to accept it. Yamaha are against the spec software, but are not so determined that they'll actually pull out. Suzuki have already been told that a spec ECU is coming, and if they don't like it, they should stay away. They are still coming. If Honda go, they go on their own.
 
The bitching and complaining isn't without merit.



What part is legitimate? I have read maybe one or two legitimate complaints about the changes to MotoGP. The remainder are just rants from fans who don't understand the sport (though some are trying). I certainly don't understand everything about the sport, but a majority of the complaints on PS and MM are baseless whining or absurdly facile arguments.



Some people complain that the definition of prototype is undermined unless all equipment is NASA specification. In reality, prototype racing only means that teams have a right to rapid prototype and develop their machines, without onerous homologation restrictions. MotoGP still adheres to that principle, even if they implement a spec-ECU. F1, on the other hand, is exploring the gray area between production and prototype racing by tightening homologation restrictions annually. If the current trend continues, F1 will merely be a rare production vehicle, manufactured by the handful of companies who have the sophistication and the willpower to make such vehicles.



Other GP fans complain that eliminating prototype electronics will stop the manufacturers from developing street electronics. In reality, there is very little connection between the two. The appearance of a connection was created when racing adopted electronics before the production market. Fans believed their was a connection b/c it puts emphasis on their beloved sport, and marketers are eager to capitalize on the misconception that winning prototype vehicles = superior production machines. Really, racing systems have little to do with production vehicles, and prototype electronics don't have to be developed in racing. A majority of the electronics prototyping happens on the manufacturer's test track, regardless of the electronics rules in GP.



The spec electronics may hurt the brand value of MotoGP, and I'm generally open to such complaints. A spec-ECU may also blur the lines between SBK and MotoGP or further confuse the identity of both series.
 

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