Bridgepoint to bring MotoGP and WSBK under one umbrella

Jumkie said:

The way i see it, Wsbk has simply done a better job in their series. Some of u guys want to claim they were outside their mission, disagree. Its all still production derived. Unlike GP that was suppose to be full prototype. GP are the more at fault in terms of going away from their mission. And i contend they got in the hole by .... cost advancing rules and their relentless promotion of one man. These two things has made GP unsustainable, so it was them that lost sight of mission. Given CRT is ...., but even their "prototypes" are a strickly dictated formula (something Pov & Bird fail still to understand) making the bikes less than "prototype". Then add the fact the last unique design (GP11) was killed again by stupid rules combined with their need to promote that one man again.



Its the work of businessmen who have killed the more successful product, but as usual through dastardly means. This happens frequently in big business. Look up all the efficiency auto patens oil companies have bought or forced to cease so they can continue peddling oil to the world, etc. Yes, its the way of the world, thats why we have ...... governments. And whats most dastardly is like 1984, they are telling us this is for the greater good of the sport of "motorcycling". Ive read very little opposition in the sport media, even on Kropos site who incorrectly predicted this wouldnt happen back when the take-over , claiming it was only a soccer thing, bla bla (while some of us non experts, street savvy, read the writing on the wall); and even here on the forum peeps are sheepishly accepting it as some good thing. I guess people are content with the fraud that has been this last year in GP to continue and now killing the alternative we 'had'.

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J4rn0 said:

In all this, it is probably FIM that is to be blamed the most because of their inaction: they are the motorcycle racing international body and should take care of the sport, but they have been sitting on the wall leaving every decision to Dorna and Jap manufacturers. This makes the future look grim. I was hoping that Ippolito would show some strength, but unfortunately that has not been the case.

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Jumkie said:

The way i see it, Wsbk has simply done a better job in their series. Some of u guys want to claim they were outside their mission, disagree. Its all still production derived. Unlike GP that was suppose to be full prototype. GP are the more at fault in terms of going away from their mission. And i contend they got in the hole by .... cost advancing rules and their relentless promotion of one man. These two things has made GP unsustainable, so it was them that lost sight of mission. Given CRT is ...., but even their "prototypes" are a strickly dictated formula (something Pov & Bird fail still to understand) making the bikes less than "prototype". Then add the fact the last unique design (GP11) was killed again by stupid rules combined with their need to promote that one man again.



Its the work of businessmen who have killed the more successful product, but as usual through dastardly means. This happens frequently in big business. Look up all the efficiency auto patens oil companies have bought or forced to cease so they can continue peddling oil to the world, etc. Yes, its the way of the world, thats why we have ...... governments. And whats most dastardly is like 1984, they are telling us this is for the greater good of the sport of "motorcycling". Ive read very little opposition in the sport media, even on Kropos site who incorrectly predicted this wouldnt happen back when the take-over , claiming it was only a soccer thing, bla bla (while some of us non experts, street savvy, read the writing on the wall); and even here on the forum peeps are sheepishly accepting it as some good thing. I guess people are content with the fraud that has been this last year in GP to continue and now killing the alternative we 'had'.

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thedeal said:

You just dont get it,the FIM sold the rights of MX gp and Moto gp a long time ago,they dont care what or how the formula is or works as long as they get paid for the rights to host the show,Ezzy and Luongo have put away millions of the back of our sport and it will never stop,The FIM cant do anything without uncovering there own back door deals.

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Jumkie said:

Lex, so does this mean GP will go full "prototype"? I bet u'll miss my point.

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Submitted by gsx750f on Sun, 2012-10-07 05:13.



Carmelo Ezpeleta, the CEO of Dorna©, the new regulatory body for the World Superbikes® championship, has announced a set of rule changes in the World Superbikes© championship for the upcoming 2013 season. These rules are supposed to remove entry barriers for teams wishing to enter the championship, and will thus ensure a healthy and competitive grid.

The first of the rule changes will impose a fuel-limit of 18 liters per bike for each race. This fuel limit is supposed to cut costs for the teams. The ever rising costs of petrol has meant that a substantial amount of money had to be spent for fuel in the past, a cost that will now be severely reduced. In addition, this measure will show that Dorna™ and motorcycle manufacturers take protection of the environment very seriously. Excempt from the fuel limit are only the bikes fielded by the manufacturer Kawasaki, because according to Dorna™ CEO Ezpeleta, these bikes with their characteristic color are "already green".

To further cut costs and make the series more appealing to potential competitors, a new class of bikes is to be introduced. These bikes will have the working title "WRT©". It is not yet clear what WRT® will stand for, but the acronym has promptly been dubbed as "Weird Rules Teams" by the press.

WRT™ bikes will have to use engines from the Superstock® class, but are only allowed to use 5 engines per season. While this means that the engines will actually have to last longer than they have to do now in the Superstock™ class, which will probably only be possible with a quite conservative state of tune, a number of performance balancing measures will be in place to make the WRT® bikes competitive. For example, the WRT™ bikes are excempt from the obligation to use fake headlights, and are allowed to use performance enhancing stickers instead, like tribals and racing stripes. A number of other measures are already being worked out, the rest will be made up on the fly by Dorna® CEO Ezpeleta™ as the season progresses.

While the suspense and entertainment in the World Superbikes™ series will probably never be able to reach that of MotoGP©, the pinnacle of motorcycle racing, Dorna™ CEO Ezpeleta© has announced a number of measures that will aim to match the entertainment value of the two series more closely.

To make the racing more entertaining, the World Superbikes® grid will see the introduction of mandatory pit stops. For each half of the race, only 9 liters of fuel will be allowed. WRT® teams will start with 7 liters of fuel, and will have two pit-stops, which means that they will be allowed to use 21 liters of fuel in total.

Pit stops will have to take at least 5 seconds, and the tires will have to be changed twice. The rear tire will have to be mounted to the front first, while the front tire is to be mounted to the rear, before the tires are allowed to be assembled in the correct order. Correct application of these rules will be monitored by the FIM™. Failure to abide by the rules will lead to severe punishments, at the moment penalties like having to ride circles in the parc ferme are discussed. These pit stops will introduce a much needed element of strategy into the World Superbikes® races.

To adopt the success of the spec tires used in the MotoGP© championship to World Superbikes®, the teams will be able to choose from two different compounds by the new spec tire supplier Bridgestone™ for each race weekend. These two compounds will be either wet tires, or so called "smooth tires®", which are basically wet tires with the thread pattern removed. With these new tires, Bridgestone© and Dorna® are hoping that the racing will be much more entertaining, because especially in hot conditions these tires can fail at any given moment.

Dorna© CEO Ezpeleta: "While it is clear that the racing in the World Superbikes™ championship will never be as close and entertaining than in MotoGP©, we hope that the new rules will make the racing in World Superbikes© much better and greatly enhance the entertainment value. We are sure that the new regulations will attract a great number of new sponsors, and will establish World Superbikes® as the second best series after MotoGP©".

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Geonerd said:

Roo, Arrab, Willis, Jumkie?



Any of you smart-..... want to take credit for this gem?

http://motomatters.c...l#comment-39782

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cliché guevara said:

first logical step to kill off one of the series.



to be honest i wouldn't mind wsbk with more stock-style rules,that one of the series has got to go is obvious given how sophisticated wsbk is getting and motogp taking a step back in performance in the near future (which i don't mind as long as it serves to make it more of a riders championship)

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DRILL said:

Thats what I was thinking.Said it before,long time ago.

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J4rn0 said:

Solution: let's buy Dorna! Then we can run the show ourselves.

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Geonerd said:

Roo, Arrab, Willis, Jumkie?



Any of you smart-..... want to take credit for this gem?

http://motomatters.c...l#comment-39782

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cliché guevara said:

cause when i'm all sober and have something smart to say i go to motomatters.

when i have some brews and ace herbage i prefer to be a ....... here. no need to give away my second, clever and more likeable identity

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