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Barry Machine in doubt for the next three races

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how the .... did we get here given how funny this thread started 17 pages ago?

Community hahaha dont make me laugh mate. As jumkie says, if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks. I'm not going to sit hear and watch ......s take the high ground. Not when i know they have skeletons. Kesh declared war on me. Gloves off mother fuckers.
 
the moral of the story is... When drunk don't sit next to sober man with a moral high ground attitude. You never know what they have planned for you. just like the Catholic Priest?



No, that is not the moral of the story, but the moral did have something to do with a "priest". Think a bit longer grasshopper.



Anyway, here is another joke with a moral. This one tells you the moral so people won't have to figure it out.







A man drinks a shot of tequila every night before bed. After years of this, the wife wants him to quit; she gets two shot glasses, filling one with water and the other with tequila.



After getting him to the table that had the glasses, she brings his bait box. She says "I want you to see this." She puts a worm in the water it, and it swims around.



She puts a worm in the tequila, and the worm dies immediately. She then says, feeling that she has made her point clear, "what do you have to say about this experiment?"



He responds by saying: "If I drink tequila, I won't get worms!"
 
No, that is not the moral of the story, but the moral did have something to do with a "priest". Think a bit longer grasshopper.



Anyway, here is another joke with a moral. This one tells you the moral so people won't have to figure it out.







A man drinks a shot of tequila every night before bed. After years of this, the wife wants him to quit; she gets two shot glasses, filling one with water and the other with tequila.



After getting him to the table that had the glasses, she brings his bait box. She says "I want you to see this." She puts a worm in the water it, and it swims around.



She puts a worm in the tequila, and the worm dies immediately. She then says, feeling that she has made her point clear, "what do you have to say about this experiment?"



He responds by saying: "If I drink tequila, I won't get worms!"

He is indeed a wise man. As BM will testify , drinking tap water is not good for you.
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No, that is not the moral of the story, but the moral did have something to do with a "priest". Think a bit longer grasshopper.



Anyway, here is another joke with a moral. This one tells you the moral so people won't have to figure it out.







A man drinks a shot of tequila every night before bed. After years of this, the wife wants him to quit; she gets two shot glasses, filling one with water and the other with tequila.



After getting him to the table that had the glasses, she brings his bait box. She says "I want you to see this." She puts a worm in the water it, and it swims around.



She puts a worm in the tequila, and the worm dies immediately. She then says, feeling that she has made her point clear, "what do you have to say about this experiment?"



He responds by saying: "If I drink tequila, I won't get worms!"



My immediate thought - What about mescale? I guess I've missed the point again.
 
But i have pics, do you ? I told you i wasn't interested in talking to you kesh, but since then you have quoted damn near every post with a dig. Up until now i have ignored you. Don't push me little man !



I have not forgiven you for what you said about my kids. Yeah you come over all high and mighty but ive seen a different side of you. The man who stands in the corner at a drunken party stone cold sober, then prays on drunken men.



You clearly don't understand the meaning of friendship. Or trust. Friendship for you is only good when it's all going your way. Now you're sinking so low as to try to "blackmail" me with that stupid photo. The act of a low-life bully - which is what you are. ....... put it up - I could give a ..... It was a bet between me and CK that if Lorenzo lost and Stoner won at Laguna that I would do the one thing that would make CK's loss worse, which was to plant a giant wet Bugs Bunny kiss on him just to "humiliate" him even further. It was done in front of a zillion witnesses and everybody understood it was a gag and all of us had a good laugh. And naturally the plebeian schoolyard bully in you thought to take a photo of it because you knew at some time you might when you couldn't handle a little criticism - you could betray our friendship by threatening to post the photo and make some lame homophobic remark because that's the kind of "mate" you are. To take what was a good natured gag between two friends in a public place and to attempt to intimidate me into silence by threatening to try and make it out like some assignation in a dark alley just shows what an unethical and emotionally impoverished excuse for a human being you are.
 
You clearly don't understand the meaning of friendship. Or trust. Friendship for you is only good when it's all going your way.

Now you're sinking so low as to try to blackmail me with a stupid photo. The act of a bully which is what you are.



Since when is it a crime to be sober?



I don't pray. Don't believe in god.



The more you try to intimidate people and throw your weight around - the more unlikeable you make yourself to everyone around you.



For a guy who loves to dish it out - you sure do whine when it comes back at yah.

Your no friend of mine . You are a douch bag imo. You declared war on me with your bully pm's so don't try take the moral high ground now. I told you i neither like you nor want to participate in debate with you. You chose to continue regardless of me ignoring you. You throw a stone, i will throw a boulder ........ Now .... off before i make good of my threat.
 
So I guess Barry can't make it to the UK.



Thread closed.

Why close the thread ? A fair few ps members only post when there's drama. You all ....... love it, even if its just to moan at the drama providers. How many members actually discus interesting motogp related ..... Most just hang off words for a row. Nothing wrong with that except the moral high grounders are the worst offenders. (keshav, geonerd and to a lesser extent michaelm)
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At least for once its contained in one thread. FIGHT CLUB !
 
Why close the thread ? A fair few ps members only post when there's drama. You all ....... love it, even if its just to moan at the drama providers. How many members actually discus interesting motogp related ..... Most just hang off words for a row. Nothing wrong with that except the moral high grounders are the worst offenders. (keshav, geonerd and to a lesser extent michaelm)
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At least for once its contained in one thread. FIGHT CLUB !



I definitely can't take any moral high ground when it comes to a barney among members.



Merely trying to change the topic.

 
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no place else where i've witnessed grown men act out so much



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I would consider a beer with you cliche ........ but I'd not travel half the world for it ..... not meant offensively .... but more an indication of reality. :wink:
 
I actually watched your "video evidence" junkie!!



That pretty much accords with what I said way back when .......



so I have to ask .........



Do you feel every corner is taken in that manner?



Do you feel that commentator is right? ( adding that as I have said he agrees with me ..... ie. I would never feel this has cred enough to use in all seriousness )



Is this guy, about whom they were talking doing the same as every rider would? Does he know the techniques of every rider?







I disagree with Arab that backing it in is initiated with downshifting and rear brake.



Edit: ie. they are not common factors with the phenomena of "backing it in" .... ergo ....... they are not essential triggers or factors ....... simple .... :wink:







Just as an example I submit a corner for you to ride .......

https://maps.google....&sz=19&t=m&z=19

at over 50kph on entry and keep the rear on the deck ......... let alone downshift and or rear brake ( for whatever the good it would do whilst the rear is in the air .... or at least ......somewhat light
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) Streetview it too buttercup!!



Corners are not corners ........ even if in a plan view they look similar ....... they have elevation changes that make their approach and execution totally independent from any other corner on earth .......



I defy anybody to use the rear brake or downshift on that corner ......... in any other endeavour than to be slly.



hint; it is over a sharp apex, on the headland, dipping rapidly to almost sea level ...... ie. you are lucky the bike is not airborn at 50kph.



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I would be a bullshitter if I agreed with you that backing in is only produced by downshifting and /or rear brake Arab .......



With a giggle at your proposition, that the above is the case, I thought of you the other day as I came into that corner slightly overcooked, on my mission to acquire my regular post work "wind-down coffee and ciggy" by the sea ( I get a bit antsy on said trip from work to ..... rest area
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Anyway, I'm on a day off ..... enjoy your thread chaps!!



And Rog.!! calm down a bit you wally!!, you are alienating everyone!! I know you won't accept that SToner is the only alien but gee!!! producing more alienated folk is not the way to prove it!! And you are likely shortening your life!! De-stress Rog.!! Have a "wind-down coffee and ciggy by the sea" :wink:



In closing I say again:



Arab ...... I would be a bullshitter if I agreed with you that backing in is only produced by downshifting and /or rear brake Arab .......
 
So I guess Barry can't make it to the UK.



Thread closed.



Barry would not like to ( atm ..... could not ..... hence the after December time ) waste his time traveling a week for two days ride, with a bunch of redneck pissheads with a ...... up agenda ...... is what it boils down to.
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Edit ....... unless its somewhere "nice" ....... ie. somewhere I want to go ...... like ...

Mongolia .. or

Tierra Del Fuego

NZ .....

Alaskary ....

Canada maybe?

Antarctica ......... on a dirtbike!! now that'd be something!!

The Gobi .....



..... or the like ..
 
But i have pics, do you ? I told you i wasn't interested in talking to you kesh, but since then you have quoted damn near every post with a dig. Up until now i have ignored you. Don't push me little man !



I have not forgiven you for what you said about my kids. Yeah you come over all high and mighty but ive seen a different side of you. The man who stands in the corner at a drunken party stone cold sober, then prays on drunken men.





I heard that he said that they had all the wisdom, good grace and humility that their father had, so I don,t see what your problem is.















Wait a minute..................................I see it now. You ....... Keshav!
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I actually watched your "video evidence" junkie!!



That pretty much accords with what I said way back when .......



so I have to ask .........



Do you feel every corner is taken in that manner?



Do you feel that commentator is right? ( adding that as I have said he agrees with me ..... ie. I would never feel this has cred enough to use in all seriousness )



Is this guy, about whom they were talking doing the same as every rider would? Does he know the techniques of every rider?







I disagree with Arab that backing it in is initiated with downshifting and rear brake.



Edit: ie. they are not common factors with the phenomena of "backing it in" .... ergo ....... they are not essential triggers or factors ....... simple .... :wink:







Just as an example I submit a corner for you to ride .......

https://maps.google....&sz=19&t=m&z=19

at over 50kph on entry and keep the rear on the deck ......... let alone downshift and or rear brake ( for whatever the good it would do whilst the rear is in the air .... or at least ......somewhat light
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) Streetview it too buttercup!!



Corners are not corners ........ even if in a plan view they look similar ....... they have elevation changes that make their approach and execution totally independent from any other corner on earth .......



I defy anybody to use the rear brake or downshift on that corner ......... in any other endeavour than to be slly.



hint; it is over a sharp apex, on the headland, dipping rapidly to almost sea level ...... ie. you are lucky the bike is not airborn at 50kph.



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I would be a bullshitter if I agreed with you that backing in is only produced by downshifting and /or rear brake Arab .......



With a giggle at your proposition, that the above is the case, I thought of you the other day as I came into that corner slightly overcooked, on my mission to acquire my regular post work "wind-down coffee and ciggy" by the sea ( I get a bit antsy on said trip from work to ..... rest area
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Anyway, I'm on a day off ..... enjoy your thread chaps!!



And Rog.!! calm down a bit you wally!!, you are alienating everyone!! I know you won't accept that SToner is the only alien but gee!!! producing more alienated folk is not the way to prove it!! And you are likely shortening your life!! De-stress Rog.!! Have a "wind-down coffee and ciggy by the sea" :wink:



In closing I say again:



Arab ...... I would be a bullshitter if I agreed with you that backing in is only produced by downshifting and /or rear brake Arab .......



Fair enough - you are strong on your conviction. However this dispute is about the terminology and the term 'backing in' refers to stepping out the rear end by using the downshift and feeding the clutch - precisely as you see in the video.They are the common factors - merely common to the term 'backing in' - but they are not necessarily common factors involved in cornering or sliding.



Where I do agree with you is the contention that a slide can be produced by methods other than the downshift and/or braking on the approach to a corner. This has never been in contention. I accept that in certain unique circumstances you can slide a bike by positionioning your body, again this has never been in contention, and I also accept that application of the throttle and the controlled powerslide can be initiated into and throughout a turn - this also has never been in contention. But even if this steps out and slides the rear end - this is not 'backing in' which specifically refers to the downshift in conjunction with the brakes.



Of course every corner is different and is taken in a different manner by different riders - that much is an axiom which we all accept and is as such irrelevant. A constant radius high speed turn on a race track for example would clearly not necessitate 'backing in' where high corner speed would be paramount - and in respect of the 800cc paradigm wheels in line 250 style. Conversely, a bunch of superbikes hurtling towards a hairpin or more specifically I dunno - Honda corner at Phillip Island, would on the other hand perhaps 'back into' the corner under the downshift and heavy braking. 'Backing in' was a very popular Superbike technique last decade - it is now less commonly deployed. Just as you wouldn't see a rider 'dangle' his leg (as is so much in vogue now) into a high speed turn, it tends to happen when braking late into a tight coner or a stop start chicane...precisely the same thing with backing in. There are an abundance of racers who never harnessed the method far less even touched the rear brake as your example of Schwantz highlights.



You still seem to be under the misconception that I advocate backing in as the sole method to approach every turn, that I believe every rider/racer should and does use the rear brake and that there is no other way to slide a bike. I'm not arguing over the validity of backing in - never have - it's a racing technique - I'm merely disputing the terminology...and the terminology as highlighted/evidenced in the video involves heavy (usually late) braking in conjunction with the downshift under controlled clutch feed. I'm not prescribing it as a technique and I never have. It's merely something, an idiosyncratic style if you will, that some riders will deploy - most commonly in Superbikes.



When I ride on the road or track - where possible I like to be under throttle or on the approach to a tight turn utilise - unlike my two stroke days - engine braking - which is why I questioned your 'coasting'. In a constant radius turn I will stay on the power to keep the front end loaded and drive the bike in pursuit of the vanishing point as opposed to say going in too hot and closing the throttle say on a roundabout or tight turn which so many make the mistake of doing and can cause vauge front end feel translating throughout the bike. Learning to correctly hang off the bike under instruction and practice on the track and road was a revelation.



Also specifically, what part of this clip 'accords' with anything you said previously?



Enjoy your day off btw.
 
Barry has a day off? Who is manning NORAD? Oh, oh, I get it, he has a day "off". Surely some covert op. I'll keep my eyes on the news for obscure hints. Surely something big will be happening behind the scenes.





Sorry, to those on the side of civility, I can't help myself.
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Damn....I don't read this thread for a few days and all hell has broken loose.

Perspective gentlemen, what is this thread about? Yes, everybody is 10 foot tall and bulletproof on the internets...in reality only Pov is 10 feet tall!

Let's step back, remember why the thread was started.

Summary....Arrabi offers, BM declines offer, everything in between doesn't matter, 10 years from now who will give a damn?
 
Damn....I don't read this thread for a few days and all hell has broken loose.

Perspective gentlemen, what is this thread about? Yes, everybody is 10 foot tall and bulletproof on the internets...in reality only Pov is 10 feet tall!

Let's step back, remember why the thread was started.

Summary....Arrabi offers, BM declines offer, everything in between doesn't matter, 10 years from now who will give a damn?



+1 ...lol we all need to get off these topics after the first 5 or so pages...they all just turn into one giant off topic argument.



Its funny tho..but still haha
 
POWERSLIDE PARK- A MODERN PARABLE





A sad tale to tell, but one that must be told.

Powerslide Park is the place to be for thrill -seeking old dogs. Around the country, there are many waterslide parks; places where you can thrill seek by climbing high and then slide down the water-filled half pipe at speed. But for hard core watersliders that is not enough. And so Ben created Powerslide Park. with a waterslide boosted to high speeds by a high output pump. It became a very popular place and drew dogs of all breeds from all over the world.

And so, this is the story of Chops, a beefy British Bulldog that came to virtually live in powerslide park and began to think of the place as his own. From time to time ,amidst all the excitement, little fracas would evolve, but would usually settle down quickly after a few nips. However things have changed and Chops has gone a bit feral. Some think he is rabid. He now appears constantly aggressive. "Look at me, look at my size, look at my teeth you little poodles and run!" he said. And as well as growling constantly as well as dribbling, he has developed the bad habit of defaecating in other dogs kennels. Particularly in that of the slight and wiry Keshavian Terrier across the central pond. Why it is not certain. Certainly the reserved demeanour and analytical eyes unnerved Chops, and he was never quite sure if it was the Keshavian terrier that nipped at his heels when his back was turned. Something about him was at odds with Chops rambunctious and physical lifestyle.

But there was a change in Chops and the reason became apparent soon enough! You see Chops was in love with Portia, an exotic and sensuous Saluki. But poor old Chops owner could not afford the stud fee, and in quiet desperation Chops would stray off after dark and partake in dubious activities with a Griffon of ill-repute. And before long, the damage was done!



Chops had aquired an STI!!



It changed his life.



He had to get used to the hideousness now associated with his doghood.He now developed performance anxiety and wondered what the ....... would think of him. He tried everything and anything. First he added Ethanol to the ointment he applied to his donk. Then Methanol. Then other highly volitile substances. He started to get his performance assessed. Various graphs were created and sent around for analysis by "performance" gurus. Nothing was quite right. His big end was starting to crack and his (con) rod was getting fatigued! He knew he should have held out for Portia.



What to do??



His owner scanned the world for experts.



First they tried the famous Jim Key, a master of ancient Aztec rituals, utilizing vast quantities of tequila to induce a zen-like state of tranquility., but all poor old Chops got was a rotten head-ache and his own kennel filled with liquid poo.



Then they tried the middle-eastern mystic, the arab Biata. Biata used a concoction of secret herbs smoked through an opium pipe while reciting poems about zoophilia. It didn,t work either, only leaving chops more confused about his performance than ever before. Before he woke he even dreamt about the goddess Evo, such was his confused mind.



The last hope lay in the antipodes. Many rumours of a magical device that could centre the soul, demagnetize anger and engineer tranquility. It was rumoured to use a series of gyroscopic motors and produced a high pitched humming sound.



It was called the Bee Machine.



But was it real? It seemed too perfect, but rumours persisted and Chops had to try to find it .Legend held that it was secreted high in the Watagan Ranges, just a short trip from surfing Nirvana, Norah Head. And the stories were that the paths to the Bee Machine were steep and narrow, so narrow that it was impossible to turn your vehicle around at any stage. Many ruts, mud holes and small boulders littered the tracks to the high Watagans and the firm advice was that the return trip down the path was so treacherous that to ascend ,it was necessary to back your vehicle up the hill, to enable the trip down in a forward direction. Obviously reversing up a treacherous incline was exceedingly difficult and many techniques were suggested to master the reverse ascent. Some spoke of a steady throttle and no brakes, some suggested judicious application of the brakes at specific intervals, while others suggested it was impossible for mere mortals to master the necessary skills and that famous off-roaders Stoner, McCoy and Roberts would have the necessary skills. Such people were known as the "masters of backing it in" after people had observed their training runs for the reverse ascent up Mt Watagan.



Alas, once Chops reached Antipodea, far across the pond in powerslide park, he was not able to ascend the Watagans. The path was too steep and too treacherous for his owner to master. . And thus we have the ultimate catch-22, because part of the legend of the Bee Machine is that all will be revealed when you are under its aura, that is , the mastery of " backing it in" will be realised, but that without that knowledge the Bee Machine could not be visited.



Now all seemed lost. Ben was unhappy with Chops and was on the cusp of removing him from the park. It was then that I realised that I had to right a huge wrong, because I feel I was the person responsible for all of Chops current problems. It all goes back along way when I first met Chops, when he first appeared on my consult table as an adorable plump puppy. It was his first checkup and I had to give him a thorough going over. I examined his eyes, his ears, his sharp teeth. I ran my fingers all over him, checking for abnormallities. Then it was vaccination time. I got his owner to hold his head towards her and vaccinated him from behind. What a lovely little puppy...I could have vaccinated him again and again! But no, the microchip was next. It was a big needle, shiny, thick and very sharp. I grasped the skin over his shoulders and thrust it deep into his subcuticulraris. He squealed, and there was some blood., but then he was ok. What a good little puppy. I was quite distracted by this handsome little puppy and that was the problem. I was distracted and gave him the wrong vaccine! I gave a C5 and it should have been a C9, the one to protect against STI,s !!!!

So its my fault. Sorry Chops, one day you will no longer have an STI and things will look up. I too once had an STI but managed to eventually remove it from my system using Evolutionary medicine. You too will eventually be cured and there is good news, Ben will let you stay, but....................................................you have to get castrated!
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