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Barry Machine in doubt for the next three races

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I understand your viewpoint, but don't see malice in him myself.



Then observe Michael, as having watched the clip posted by Geo he graciously accepts his mistake, apologises after two years scorn and objection, and acknowledges that he was confused over the terminology concerning 'backing in'.



Alternatively, given that Barry is utterly incapable of anything vaguely reminiscent of humility...it could be that Scott Russell is like Michael Neeves - an ....., we are all ......... who need to get off the couch and try it and this is nothing but 'kids skids' (followed by a rapid deployment of assorted emoticons).
 
I understand your viewpoint, but don't see malice in him myself.



After some reflection, I'll agree that my 'Barry Bagging' posts have perhaps become a little too visceral. I vow adopt a somewhat kinder tone when dealing with him. (Don't expect puppies and bunnies...)



OTOH, Arrab's offer seemed genuine. Yes, there was a dose of 'needle,' but IMO his proposal, and the tone in which it was presented, reflected a spirit of good faith and fellowship. BM's sneering response may not quite qualify as 'malicious,' but it definitely went beyond casual rudeness. There is more to Barry than an innocent social ...... getting picked on.



Sorry, my 'Barry Machine Sympathy-O-Meter' is reading rather low today. [.\.........]
 
Then watch Michael, as having watched the clip posted by Geo he graciously accepts his mistake, apologises after two years scorn and objection, and acknowledges that he was confused over the terminology concerning 'backing in'.



Alternatively, given that Barry is utterly incapable of anything vaguely reminiscent of humility...it could be that Scott Russell is like Michael Neeves - an ....., we are all ......... who need to get off the couch and try it and this is nothing but 'kids skids' (followed by a rapid deployment of assorted emoticons).

It wasn't just a case of BM disagreeing with our information and experience with the technique of backing in. He continually publicly ridiculed us over it while ignoring evidence to the contrary. He continually dragged it up at every opportunity implying we were defeated on the subject in many threads that were not furnished with evidence to the contrary. This was a tactic used by him to try and make Arrab and myself look ignorant in front of members not aware of the other threads.

As for his bestiality, well what do you expect when you admit to something in a place where very few have any respect for you. Why you mickm would stoop so low as to defend bm is beyond me. Maybe its an aussie looking out for aussie thing, or maybe your just a big mouthed ill informed do-gooder?

You reap what you sow as BM is finding out. You have no issue with BM mickm but we do. If you don't like it then please feel free to butt out !
 
It wasn't just a case of BM disagreeing with our information and experience with the technique of backing in. He continually publicly ridiculed us over it while ignoring evidence to the contrary. He continually dragged it up at every opportunity implying we were defeated on the subject in many threads that were not furnished with evidence to the contrary. This was a tactic used by him to try and make Arrab and myself look ignorant in front of members not aware of the other threads.

As for his bestiality, well what do you expect when you admit to something in a place where very few have any respect for you. Why you mickm would stoop so low as to defend bm is beyond me. Maybe its an aussie looking out for aussie thing, or maybe your just a big mouthed ill informed do-gooder?

You reap what you sow as BM is finding out. You have no issue with BM mickm but we do. If you don't like it then please feel free to butt out !
He did exactly the same over gyros with me, but still, I am over the zoophilia thing etc.
 
It wasn't just a case of BM disagreeing with our information and experience with the technique of backing in. He continually publicly ridiculed us over it while ignoring evidence to the contrary. He continually dragged it up at every opportunity implying we were defeated on the subject in many threads that were not furnished with evidence to the contrary. This was a tactic used by him to try and make Arrab and myself look ignorant in front of members not aware of the other threads.

As for his bestiality, well what do you expect when you admit to something in a place where very few have any respect for you. Why you mickm would stoop so low as to defend bm is beyond me. Maybe its an aussie looking out for aussie thing, or maybe your just a big mouthed ill informed do-gooder?

You reap what you sow as BM is finding out. You have no issue with BM mickm but we do. If you don't like it then please feel free to butt out !



Poor form, Choppy!



So this is now YOUR private forum? YOUR argument with BM?

Michael is fully entitled to both hold a contrary opinion and to share it with all.

If you don't like what he has to say, too bad. You have no right to attempt to shout him down.
 
Poor form, Choppy!



So this is now YOUR private forum? YOUR argument with BM?

Michael is fully entitled to both hold a contrary opinion and to share it with all.

If you don't like what he has to say, too bad. You have no right to attempt to shout him down.

Not at all. but if you don't like something that your clearly in the minority view on, then butt out ! Why should we let up on BM who has ...... us off for so long just because mikem doesn't like it?
 
He did exactly the same over gyros with me, but still, I am over the zoophilia thing etc.

True, but with respect your not on here so much so are not subject to the ......s ........ and trolling any where near as much as arrab and myself have been.
 
Not at all. but if you don't like something that your clearly in the minority view on, then butt out ! Why should we let up on BM who has ...... us off for so long just because mikem doesn't like it?



You shouldn't chops!..............carry on! Its probably more easily explained in this case with the phrase 'birds of a feather'
 
Not at all. but if you don't like something that your clearly in the minority view on, then butt out!



Ugh. Mob logic at its finest.



I'll say it again, Michael has EVERY right to hold and share his contrary opinion. If you can't deal with that, maybe it's YOU who should take a short PS vacation. Get some perspective, dude! Maybe, just maybe, yours is not the only valid valid version of reality?
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Why should we let up on BM who has ...... us off for so long just because mikem doesn't like it?



Rog, no one is saying you aren't free to continue as before with Barry. Carry on!

Simply tell Mike, "I disagree." Telling him to 'shut up' is not cool.
 
Ugh. Mob logic at its finest.



I'll say it again, Michael has EVERY right to hold and share his contrary opinion. If you can't deal with that, maybe it's YOU who should take a short PS vacation. Get some perspective, dude! Maybe, just maybe, yours is not the only valid valid version of reality?
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Rog, no one is saying you aren't free to continue as before with Barry. Carry on!

Simply tell Mike, "I disagree." Telling him to 'shut up' is not cool.

so you dont think it's mike telling us to shut up and stop bagging barry as he calls it? doubly standards from you again.
 
are you serious chops?haven't read the part where michealm is saying anything of that sort, you on the other hand have.

don't be such a BM



"if you don't like this forum then get out. we don't take kindly to your type around here"
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Seems to me all parties in this endless .... fling have been equally obnoxious to one another. Rather than turning into a mob of angry villagers - the higher road taken might be agree to disagree and put an end to it.



To whinge about Barry not taking up any generous offers is a joke. Right or wrong, Baz has been ganged up on and been subjected to a shock and awe display of aggressive hate-spew that (IMHO) seems disproportionate to anything he's said. People ..... and moan at how often he does it but seem incapable of taking into account that the more you poke a wounded animal the more it will try to bite you. It's no mystery that at times he seem less than good-natured. To realistically think that at this juncture Barry would ever want to have a beer with the people who have ganged up to revile him at such great lengths and with such gusto is ridiculous. If he's a much a mental defective as people say he is why the .... not just put him on your ignore list. I did so with Pinky, Super-......, Nino and a few others and it works fine. If I were able to tell Charles Manson to his face what an ....... he was - I wouldn't bother because it would never affect him one way or the other. Baz is no Manson - but he has demonstrated pretty well by now that you're never going to wear him down and that he doesn't live for validation by other powersliders and if he's nothing more than a troll - he's an incredible success by troll standards and the sheer amount of time people waste on berating him is a measure of that success. I neither love nor hate the guy but give him props for at least being able to make fun of himself and not take himself as seriously as his detractors do.
 
Actually Kesh - revisit some of your exchanges with Dub because it's equally unpleasant viewing. Nonetheless it was none of my business...I declined to comment or pass judgement as I have in many of your debates which I let rage because that's your battle to wage.



Funny you should use 'shock and awe' as a convenient analogy. I quote from a recent P.M. -



'I agree about the mob mentality which I too don't particularly like - but Barry burns so many bridges and is so needlessly obnoxious to so many that he's ended up alienating or upsetting half the regular forum. Those that don't ignore him as the buffoon he clearly is, have snowballed into a 'rage against the machine'. Recently it's been like a military backlash against some mad dictator of some Third World Republic who arrogantly and ineffectually pits his limited arsenal and tin pot army in a pre-emptive strike against the might of a superpower. Yet in the face of such overwhelming odds - the resultant economic sanctions and waves of assaults by ground and air and amid massive collateral damage, stubbornly and resolutely refuses to capitulate. It's Barry against the world - in the absence of any real allies - perhaps that should be admired if he was fighting a worthy cause or had something noteworthy or original to say'.



Perhaps the allies that speak out in his defence should be admired - but there's a lot of 'holier than thou' ..... posted on here.



If you are truly aware of the history of this then you will understand ultimately, this is what matters to me. Thanks Jum, thanks Geo - end of story and hopefully nothing more to say on the subject.







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so you dont think it's mike telling us to shut up and stop bagging barry as he calls it? doubly standards from you again.



Seriously, do you not grasp the distinction? Or are you just playing dumb?



Mike suggested that you were getting a little too nasty, but never did he tell you to STFU and 'But Out!'

There's a WORLD of difference between voicing an opposing opinion and censuring someone because you feel that your perceived majority view gives you the 'right' to do so.



No sane person expects Zen-like introspection from you Choppy, but it would be nice if you could learn to accommodate an opposing opinion, and maybe even some minor critique, without turning all Big and Green and flying into a towering rage.
 
I think my response to this thread can best be accomplished by a series of jokes:



A guy walk into a bar in Tennessee (that is where Pov is from) and orders a cosmopolitan. The bartender looks at the man and says, "You're not from 'round here are ya?"



"No" replies the man, "I'm from New York." The bartender looks at him and says, "Well what do you do in New York?"



"I'm a taxidermist," says the man. The bartender looks bewildered, so the man explains, "I mount dead animals."



The bartender stands back and hollers to the whole bar, "It's OK, boys! He's one of us!"



(No, this joke wasn't about BM, its about Pov. I hope this joke doesn't get me into trouble, as I have been known to gang up on Pov... though I will admit, he deserves it more than BM, right?)



A guy walks into a bar and sees a sign that reads:



Cheese Sandwich: $1.50

Chicken Sandwich: $2.50

Hand Job: $10.00



He checks his wallet and beckons to the sexy bartender.



"Are you the one who gives the hand jobs?" he asks.



"Yes," she purrs. "I am."



"Well, wash your frickin' hands," says the man. "I want a cheese sandwich!"



(That joke is about this thread, as its clearly gone GAY....which by the way, reminds of something Troy has said repeatedly on PS...).



Speaking of which...




A guy walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "Give me a triple shot of tequila."



The barman says, "Wow, you must have had one hell of a day."



"Yeah, I just found out my oldest son is gay."



The next day, the same guy comes into the bar and asks for a triple shot of tequila. When the bartender asks what's wrong, the man says, "I just found out that my youngest son is gay, too!"



On the third day, the guy comes into the bar and orders another triple shot of tequila. The bartender says, "Jesus! Doesn't anybody in your family like women?"



The man downs the first drink and shakes his head, "Yeah, my wife!"



(No, that wasn't about gays, it was about women...sometimes members act like ..........)



A panda walk into a bar. He asks the bartender how he can get a little action for the night. The bartender motions to a young woman. She talks to the panda, and they go back to her place. After having ..., the panda abruptly leaves.



The next night, the woman goes to the panda's house. "You owe me money," she says.



"For what?"



The woman rolls her eyes and explains, "I'm a prostitute."



The panda pulls out a dictionary and looks it up: "Prostitute: Has ... for money."



The panda says, "I don't have to pay you. I'm a panda -- look it up." She is about to protest when the bear hands her the dictionary.



The woman looks up "panda" in the dictionary. It says, "Panda: Eats bush and leaves."



(Its the internet folks, don't be a .....).



A guy walks into a bar and notices a large jar filled to the brim with $10 bills. The man approaches the bartender and asks, "What's up with the jar?"



"Well, you pay $10, and if you pass three tests, then you get all the money."



"What are the three tests?" asks the man



"Gotta pay first."



So the guy gives him the $10 bucks, and the bartender adds it to the jar.



"OK, here's what you have to do. First, you have to drink that whole bottle of pepper tequila -- the WHOLE thing at once -- and you can't make a face while doing it. Second, there's a pit bull chained up out back with a sore tooth. You have to remove the tooth with your bare hands. Third, there is a 90-year-old woman upstairs who's never had an orgasm in her life. You gotta make things right for her."



"Well, I know I've paid my $10 bucks," says the man, "but I'm not an ...... No wonder you've collected so much money -- that's impossible!"



The new guy proceeds to drink several whiskeys, and eventually, he gets up his nerve.



"Wherez zat teeqeelah?" he slurs.



He grabs the bottle of pepper tequila with both hands and downs it, gulp by gulp. Tears are streaming down his cheeks, but he doesn't make a face. Next, he staggers out back. Everyone in the bar hears a huge scuffle outside -- barking, yelping and growling, then silence.



Just when they think the man must be dead, he staggers back into the bar with his shirt ripped and gashes across his body.



"NOW," he says, "wherez at ol' lady with the sore tooth?"



(That joke was about BM, sorry, still can't let go of that zoophillia thing...its just '.......' funny, no pun intended).



A guy walks into a bar with a pet alligator by his side. He puts the alligator up on the bar and turns to the astonished patrons.



"I'll make you a deal. I'll open this alligator's mouth and place my genitals inside. Then the gator will close his mouth for one minute. He'll then open his mouth, and I'll remove my unit unscathed. In return for witnessing this spectacle, each of you will buy me a drink."



The crowd murmurs their approval. The man stands up on the bar, drops his trousers, and places his privates in the alligator's open mouth. The gator closes his mouth as the crowd gasps. After a minute, the man grabs a beer bottle and raps the alligator hard on the top its head. The gator opens his mouth, and the man removes his genitals, unscathed, as promised. The crowd cheers, and he receives the first of his free drinks.



The man stands up again and makes another offer: "I'll pay anyone $100 who's willing to give it a try."



A hush falls over the crowd. A moment later, a hand goes up in the back of the bar.



"I'll try," says a guy, "but you have to promise not to hit me on the head with the beer bottle."



(Don't stick a .... in your mouth by trying to make a point regarding forum chatter. Nannies need not apply.)
 
Then observe Michael, as having watched the clip posted by Geo he graciously accepts his mistake, apologises after two years scorn and objection, and acknowledges that he was confused over the terminology concerning 'backing in'.



Alternatively, given that Barry is utterly incapable of anything vaguely reminiscent of humility...it could be that Scott Russell is like Michael Neeves - an ....., we are all ......... who need to get off the couch and try it and this is nothing but 'kids skids' (followed by a rapid deployment of assorted emoticons).

As I said, I understand your viewpoint, now including that he has genuinely seriously offended you, and acknowledge he has said many things to justify such offence if you choose to take it.



I very specifically didn't tell anyone to stop.
 
As I said, I understand your viewpoint, now including that he has genuinely seriously offended you, and acknowledge he has said many things to justify such offence if you choose to take it.



I very specifically didn't tell anyone to stop.



A duck walks into a bar and asks, "Got any grapes?"



The bartender, confused, tells the duck no. The duck thanks him and leaves.



The next day, the duck returns and asks, "Got any grapes?"



Again, the bartender tells him, "No -- the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes and, furthermore, will never serve grapes." The duck thanks him and leaves.



The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender yells, "Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!"



The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, "Got any nails?"



Confused, the bartender says no.



"Good!" says the duck. "Got any grapes?"









Clever Duck, eh? Mike, of course you didn't say it, but it was implied. How many counterpoints on an Internet forum have started with "Show me where I said..." Even though its Geo taking issue with Rog about it, your point was still implied, which of course Rog responded with the subtly of a sledge hammer (which knowing you, can handle it).
 
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