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He is hopeless now in damp conditions, but not bad in full wet conditions.

As I said earlier in this thread, Assen is the place where he crashed and broke his clavicle 3 years ago, possibly the reason he is not a 6 time world champion as we speak.

Given he remarkably raced the same week he fractured that clavicle and had it plated, his courage being questioned on an Internet forum is rather ludicrous, and he managed a title win last year and to improve his position relative to your boy this weekend despite his understandable trepidation about the track.

It is a series run under whatever conditions prevail, and if he wins by being better in the dry he wins, just as Rossi would have deserved full credit for winning the title last year by his performances in an unusual number of wet races had that eventuated.

Looking at last year's dry race at Assen. Jorge finished 3rd, but he was 14 seconds behind Rossi & Marquez.

2014 race, Jorge finished 13th... over a minute behind Marquez.

Jorge has had bad crashes at other tracks, but the only track that really seems to torment him is Assen.
 
As I said earlier in this thread, Assen is the place where he crashed and broke his clavicle 3 years ago, possibly the reason he is not a 6 time world champion as we speak.

Given he remarkably raced the same week he fractured that clavicle and had it plated, his courage being questioned on an Internet forum is rather ludicrous, and he managed a title win last year and to improve his position relative to your boy this weekend despite his understandable trepidation about the track.

It is a series run under whatever conditions prevail, and if he wins by being better in the dry he wins, just as Rossi would have deserved full credit for winning the title last year by his performances in an unusual number of wet races had that eventuated.

We get it, you're a Vale hater. No need to imply in every post. It is comical to watch you fall apart after try to play Mr. Objective for so long.

I understand the courage of all riders. He improved his position only because of crashes, which he knows since he say that. I am not questioning his courage, I am questioning his ability in damp/wet conditions. Performance today was brutal, and you are searching for nonsense to justify. What does, 'my boy' have to do with Jorge's ride? Claims he was at the limit of crashing, yet slower than riders with inferior bikes and supposed inferior abilities. Being 6+ seconds a lap slower on a factory M1 and passed by satellite riders at this top level is not acceptable yet you and those of your ilk have him as some sort of untouchable racer, which of course is laughable...
 
We get it, you're a Vale hater. No need to imply in every post. It is comical to watch you fall apart after try to play Mr. Objective for so long.

I understand the courage of all riders. He improved his position only because of crashes, which he knows since he say that. I am not questioning his courage, I am questioning his ability in damp/wet conditions. Performance today was brutal, and you are searching for nonsense to justify. What does, 'my boy' have to do with Jorge's ride? Claims he was at the limit of crashing, yet slower than riders with inferior bikes and supposed inferior abilities. Being 6+ seconds a lap slower on a factory M1 and passed by satellite riders at this top level is not acceptable yet you and those of your ilk have him as some sort of untouchable racer, which of course is laughable...
He is also the defending world champion, and well in contention this year. Everyone knows he has a problem at Assen, for obvious reasons, and that since the accident he has lost confidence in damp conditions. Your point is?

Would you suggest Valentino should be fired because he lacks confidence at Valencia?
 
Jorge hasn't had a good finish at Assen since 2010 (2012 wasn't Jorge's fault because Bautista took him out). Rossi hasn't shown anywhere near the lack of confidence at Valencia that Jorge displays at Assen. Rossi finished 2nd at Valencia in 2014.
 
Jorge hasn't had a good finish at Assen since 2010 (2012 wasn't Jorge's fault because Bautista took him out). Rossi hasn't shown anywhere near the lack of confidence at Valencia that Jorge displays at Assen. Rossi finished 2nd at Valencia in 2014.

Assen arguably cost Jorge 1 world championship, and Valencia certainly cost VR 1 title and the prospect of a deciding race there may have influenced his attitude late season last season.

I merely turned Paps argument back on him, I readily acknowledge Jorge has not been much good at Assen . It amuses me to be called a hater for defending Jorge, which is where all this started with multiple other riders.

I absolutely dislike Rossi's behaviour, the pattern of which finally became absolutely clear to me last year, but have no problem acknowledging his quality as a rider or his achievements, and don't regard him as a dirty rider with a few exceptions. I don't think I criticised him for crashing this weekend or agreed with posts concerning the race having been red flagged for his benefit. If Papa wants to score own goals that is his choice.
 
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Jorge hasn't had a good finish at Assen since 2010 (2012 wasn't Jorge's fault because Bautista took him out). Rossi hasn't shown anywhere near the lack of confidence at Valencia that Jorge displays at Assen. Rossi finished 2nd at Valencia in 2014.

Assen arguably cost Jorge 1 world championship, and Valencia certainly cost VR 1 title and the prospect of a deciding race there may have influenced his attitude late season last season.

I merely turned Paps argument back on him, I readily acknowledge Jorge has not been much good at Assen . It amuses me to be called a hater for defending Jorge, which is where all this started with multiple other riders.

I absolutely dislike Rossi's behaviour, the pattern of which finally became absolutely clear to me last year, but have no problem acknowledging his quality as a rider or his achievements, and don't regard him as a dirty rider with a few exceptions. I don't think I criticised him for crashing this weekend or agreed with posts concerning the race having been red flagged for his benefit. If Paps wants to score own goals that is his choice.
 
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The twitter did say that Redding was invited and attended

the congratulations from MarcVDS also specifically congratulated 'former employee' and named Scott Redding specifically

He is managed by Michael Bartolomey.
 
As normal with George, no excuses, just laid it out. Road for ...., admitted to riding for .....


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But he finished with 6 points.

Thats infinitely better at managing the race than the likes of say ..... um ..... say rossi.:D::D




oh and since you guys are dead set boppers ...... did you notice how much rossi sucked today!!?

Or was that somebody elses fault?
 
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We get it, you're a Vale hater. No need to imply in every post.

Being 6+ seconds a lap slower on a factory M1 and passed by satellite riders at this top level is not acceptable yet you and those of your ilk have him as some sort of untouchable racer, which of course is laughable...
FFS do you boppers have to cry hater every post?

I don't think Lorenzo is any more untouchable racer than Rossi. Unlike Rossi I do note unacceptably slow in the wet Lorenzo is 2015 world champion.
 
oh and since you guys are dead set boppers ...... did you notice how much rossi sucked today!!?

Or was that somebody elses fault?

Yeah it's the Marshalls fault they didn't help him much. After all only 2 bothered to push him, Rossi was expecting more like 20 to push him all the way to the finish line if necessary.
 
I can't get over how they allowed Rossi to circulate in very poor visibility with no rear light?

What the .... they black flag Marquez at PI in 2014 - rules are rules even made up stupid ones.

They made Pedro start last in Mizano that year he had the issue with the tire warmer - again rules are rules even though it wasn't at all a safety issue.

But now, it's Assen, one race after a rider unfortunately died on the track, and they don't bring Rossi in to turn the light on, a most definite safety issue if he experiences some unforeseen issue and slows down only for the rider behind to smash into him - oh yes it's Rossi rules are not rules.
 
I can't get over how they allowed Rossi to circulate in very poor visibility with no rear light?

What the .... they black flag Marquez at PI in 2014 - rules are rules even made up stupid ones.

They made Pedro start last in Mizano that year he had the issue with the tire warmer - again rules are rules even though it wasn't at all a safety issue.

But now, it's Assen, one race after a rider unfortunately died on the track, and they don't bring Rossi in to turn the light on, a most definite safety issue if he experiences some unforeseen issue and slows down only for the rider behind to smash into him - oh yes it's Rossi rules are not rules.

I think paparazzo has it right ...... rossi is the ultimate disgrace.
 
After the restart Rossi put the hammer down. It was brilliant to watch and albeit briefly I thought we were in for another repeat of Donington 2005 which I witnessed trackside. Marquez said afterwards that his pace was incredible. Vale has blamed himself for going too hard and chasing the points, but this is precisely why we should watch this sport. Not to watch him fall but for riders to exploit their talent and machinery and deliver such memorable and remarkable rides. So anyway, kudos to ........

Regrettable then that Lorenzo rode such a cautious race and with Rossi crashing out, didn't give his canary brained detractors on here and trackside, something to actually celebrate and cheer this weekend by similarly losing the front.
 
Maybe a permanent "Damn-Rossi/Pro-Rossi" thread coul be created and all those who want to comment on how this despicable Rossi ruined the sport or conversely how he is the matchless and peerless GOAT could "debate" there to their hearts' content, leaving race threads free to discuss the actual merit of things and events? Just a wish. :rolleyes:
 
Wonder how long it'll be before a "Lorenzo/Marquez questions why Rossi wasn't black flagged" or similar muck raking story surfaces?
So good to see a new face on top of the MotoGP podium for once.
 

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