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Time Schedule For Aragon MotoGP - Practice Reshuffled

Submitted by David Emmett



The move to drop Friday morning practice - introduced for the 2009 season as a cost-cutting measure - has never been popular among either riders or fans. The riders and teams feel they are wasting their time, sitting around on Friday morning kicking their heels waiting for the afternoon session to kick off, and the fans miss out on an opportunity to watch the bikes out on track. Rookies, such as Interwetten Honda's Hiroshi Aoyama and his crew chief Tom Jojic, also lamented the lack of an extra session of practice, as the time between the sessions allowed the riders and their crews to go over the data collected.



In response to these criticisms, the Grand Prix Commission decided to experiment with a change from three one-hour practice sessions to four forty-five-minute sessions, extending the number of sessions on the track while leaving the amount of track time - and therefore the possible mileage - unchanged. The Aragon MotoGP round was chosen to stage this experiment, as Aragon was the only track which did not already have a list of supporting events which would need to be rescheduled. And so at Aragon, each of the classes will go out for four, shorter sessions of practice starting on Friday morning, rather than the three they have run at other events.



The organizers have also seized the opportunity to experiment with another oft-requested change. Throughout the season, MotoGP riders and team managers have complained that the track surface feels different on race day to the way it felt during practice. The finger of blame for this has been pointed at the Moto2 class: with 40+ four-stroke bikes circulating on big tires, the class seems to lay down a layer of oil and rubber during the race that changes the nature of the track. During practice, MotoGP has always followed the 125cc class - 30 lightweight two-stroke singles on skinny tires - but on race day, the main class immediately follows the Moto2 race.



Several prominent figures - most vocal of whom has been Jorge Lorenzo's manager Wilco Zeelenberg - have been asking Dorna and IRTA to change the schedule around so that MotoGP always follows Moto2, so that the MotoGP bikes get a chance to practice on the surface they will be racing on. And at Aragon, the order of practice has also been changed, with the Moto2 class and 125cc classes being switched around, Moto2 going first, before the MotoGP class, with the 125s following after. The hope is that the conditions in practice for the MotoGP bikes will be much more like the conditions on race day. If this experiment is a success, the changed order could easily be continued for the rest of the year, and the order the classes go out in reshuffled at the remaining MotoGP rounds.



The new, revised schedule for the Aragon MotoGP round is shown below:



FRIDAY, 17 SEPTEMBER 2010

09:05-09:45 Moto2 Free Practice 1

10:05-10:50 MotoGP Free Practice 1

11:10-11:50 125cc Free Practice 1



13:05-13:45 Moto2 Free Practice 2

14:05-14:50 MotoGP Free Practice 2

15:10-15:50 125cc Free Practice 2



SATURDAY, 18 SEPTEMBER 2010

09:05-09:45 Moto2 Free Practice 3

10:05-10:50 MotoGP Free Practice 3

11:10-11:50 125cc Free Practice 3



12:00-12:45 VIP Village Pit Lane Walk



13:00-13:45 Moto2 Qualifying Practice

14:05-14:50 MotoGP Qualifying Practice

15:10-15:50 125cc Qualifying Practice

17:00 Qualifying Press Conference



SUNDAY, 19 SEPTEMBER 2010

08:40-09:00 125cc Warm Up

09:10-09:30 Moto2 Warm Up

09:40-10:00 MotoGP Warm Up



10:05-10:35 VIP Village Pit Lane Walk



11:00 125cc Race (19 laps)

12:15 Moto2 Race (21 laps)

14:00 MotoGP Race (23 laps)



New Track best bike will prevail

Fiat Yam Snorefest
 
pulling for Rossi to get the win...I want to see him have a coule more before the season is over and for him to win at this track (to keep that record of winning at every venue he has raced).
 
New Track, Mmmmmm, could be fun:





1. The Doctor



2. Gorgeous George



3. Pedrobot.



4. Dovi



5. Big Ben






DNF: Stacey Moaner
 
Lorenzo - because he wants to show he's still willing to take a risk

Ross - because he's still not 100%

Spies - just because (or maybe because "he has Rossi's engine")
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Pedrosa - Because he's already bagged his limit
 
New Track, Mmmmmm, could be fun:





1. The Doctor



2. Gorgeous George



3. Pedrobot.



4. Dovi



5. Big Ben






DNF: Stacey Moaner





Rossi out fighting

The Bot because Rossi is not nice to him at the start

Whoregay playing for point

Pieman is good at learning tracks

Stacy Moaner will have some excuse or other

Hayden will also race and maybe Capi will ram him for revenge

Dovi will crash or have an excuse
 
My predictions for this weekend.



1. Pedrosa

2. Rossi

3. Stoner

4. Dovi

5. Spies



Lorenzo goes down and the championship is blown wide open (I don't want it to happen, but my head says he's going down, might change though).



Hayden has another miserable weekend and his championship position plummets.



6-10 will be the usual suspects: slow white hondas, edwards, and one of the lucky bottom-dwellers (I'll go with Barbera).
 
Lorenzo rides like a puss and finds his way off the box.



1.Pedro

2.Spies

3.Dovi

4.Rossi

5.Lorenzo
 
Rossi, out to prove a point

Lorenzo, playing safe

Spies ,learns new tracks fast

Come on man, you lambasted me a month ago when i suggested that Lorenzo would start playing it safe with the huge points lead.
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Time Schedule For Aragon MotoGP - Practice Reshuffled

Submitted by David Emmett



The move to drop Friday morning practice - introduced for the 2009 season as a cost-cutting measure - has never been popular among either riders or fans. The riders and teams feel they are wasting their time, sitting around on Friday morning kicking their heels waiting for the afternoon session to kick off, and the fans miss out on an opportunity to watch the bikes out on track. Rookies, such as Interwetten Honda's Hiroshi Aoyama and his crew chief Tom Jojic, also lamented the lack of an extra session of practice, as the time between the sessions allowed the riders and their crews to go over the data collected.



In response to these criticisms, the Grand Prix Commission decided to experiment with a change from three one-hour practice sessions to four forty-five-minute sessions, extending the number of sessions on the track while leaving the amount of track time - and therefore the possible mileage - unchanged. The Aragon MotoGP round was chosen to stage this experiment, as Aragon was the only track which did not already have a list of supporting events which would need to be rescheduled. And so at Aragon, each of the classes will go out for four, shorter sessions of practice starting on Friday morning, rather than the three they have run at other events.



The organizers have also seized the opportunity to experiment with another oft-requested change. Throughout the season, MotoGP riders and team managers have complained that the track surface feels different on race day to the way it felt during practice. The finger of blame for this has been pointed at the Moto2 class: with 40+ four-stroke bikes circulating on big tires, the class seems to lay down a layer of oil and rubber during the race that changes the nature of the track. During practice, MotoGP has always followed the 125cc class - 30 lightweight two-stroke singles on skinny tires - but on race day, the main class immediately follows the Moto2 race.



Several prominent figures - most vocal of whom has been Jorge Lorenzo's manager Wilco Zeelenberg - have been asking Dorna and IRTA to change the schedule around so that MotoGP always follows Moto2, so that the MotoGP bikes get a chance to practice on the surface they will be racing on. And at Aragon, the order of practice has also been changed, with the Moto2 class and 125cc classes being switched around, Moto2 going first, before the MotoGP class, with the 125s following after. The hope is that the conditions in practice for the MotoGP bikes will be much more like the conditions on race day. If this experiment is a success, the changed order could easily be continued for the rest of the year, and the order the classes go out in reshuffled at the remaining MotoGP rounds.



The new, revised schedule for the Aragon MotoGP round is shown below:



FRIDAY, 17 SEPTEMBER 2010

09:05-09:45 Moto2 Free Practice 1

10:05-10:50 MotoGP Free Practice 1

11:10-11:50 125cc Free Practice 1



13:05-13:45 Moto2 Free Practice 2

14:05-14:50 MotoGP Free Practice 2

15:10-15:50 125cc Free Practice 2



SATURDAY, 18 SEPTEMBER 2010

09:05-09:45 Moto2 Free Practice 3

10:05-10:50 MotoGP Free Practice 3

11:10-11:50 125cc Free Practice 3



12:00-12:45 VIP Village Pit Lane Walk



13:00-13:45 Moto2 Qualifying Practice

14:05-14:50 MotoGP Qualifying Practice

15:10-15:50 125cc Qualifying Practice

17:00 Qualifying Press Conference



SUNDAY, 19 SEPTEMBER 2010

08:40-09:00 125cc Warm Up

09:10-09:30 Moto2 Warm Up

09:40-10:00 MotoGP Warm Up



10:05-10:35 VIP Village Pit Lane Walk



11:00 125cc Race (19 laps)

12:15 Moto2 Race (21 laps)

14:00 MotoGP Race (23 laps)



New Track best bike will prevail

Fiat Yam Snorefest

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1. Pedrosa -- he may be just unstoppable now, since he has understood how to exploit the power of that Honda to get out of the corners fast

2. Spies -- new track for everybody, but he's in great form and learns faster than others

3. Rossi -- another podium waiting for Sepang



pole: Lorenzo, but his overworked 4th engine will quit during the race and the championship will finally become more interesting
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1. ROSSI.................fast at learning new tracks/ early alarm call needed



2. Pedro..................because that Honda's damn quick



3. Lorenzo.............because the other 2 are going to pull away and leave everyone else behind





GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROSSI
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The track diagram you have there is the F1 course. In the GP setting the only thing that changes are the corners at the end of the back straight. Instead of going into turns 16,17,18 those are cut out and the bikes go throught the gray area making a larger last corner 16. Should be good as they are flying down hill at the end of a massive straight.



Pedrosa

Rossi

Stoner
 
The track diagram you have there is the F1 course. In the GP setting the only thing that changes are the corners at the end of the back straight. Instead of going into turns 16,17,18 those are cut out and the bikes go throught the gray area making a larger last corner 16. Should be good as they are flying down hill at the end of a massive straight.



Pedrosa

Rossi

Stoner

My bad
 
Come on man, you lambasted me a month ago when i suggested that Lorenzo would start playing it safe with the huge points lead.
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Think you will find that was your comment on rossi , not Lorenzo ! But either way, theres playing safe and then theres playing safe. 2nd on a brand new track against a man who i reckon will be going balls out for the win is not that much of a safe play is it ?
 
Think you will find that was your comment on rossi , not Lorenzo ! But either way, theres playing safe and then theres playing safe. 2nd on a brand new track against a man who i reckon will be going balls out for the win is not that much of a safe play is it ?

I can tell you what will more than likely happen. The season will get to a point where racing Rossi for the " private championship" will no longer make sense in the real championship. Rossi will win a few races towards the end of the season after Lorenzo backs it down to secure the title, Then the fun will begin, we will have a whole off season listening to why Lorenzo's title is tainted and if it wasnt for Rossi getting hurt, blah blah blah. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it.



In all fairness, it was Talpa and Bablefish that were so adamant about Lorenzo's psychological state if he were to score less points in the second half of the season. Even going as far as saying that Lorenzo would doubt his championship if Rossi scored more points after his return. They said no way Lorenzo would pull it in, thats not what a champion at this level would do.
 

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