2023 IndiaOil Grand Prix of India
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I'm excited for this race. Glad to see a new track in MotoGP, there have been a lot of failed projects recently .
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Practice 1 results:
| Pos | Rider | Nat | Team | Time/Diff | Lap | Max |
| 1 | Marco Bezzecchi | ITA | Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) | 1'45.990s | 23/26 | 346k |
| 2 | Marc Marquez | SPA | Repsol Honda (RC213V) | +0.139s | 25/25 | 343k |
| 3 | Brad Binder | RSA | Red Bull KTM (RC16) | +0.320s | 25/25 | 344k |
| 4 | Raul Fernandez | SPA | RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) | +0.381s | 24/24 | 340k |
| 5 | Maverick Viñales | SPA | Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) | +0.488s | 25/25 | 343k |
| 6 | Johann Zarco | FRA | Pramac Ducati (GP23) | +0.586s | 24/24 | 343k |
| 7 | Luca Marini | ITA | Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) | +0.619s | 21/23 | 343k |
| 8 | Jorge Martin | SPA | Pramac Ducati (GP23) | +0.620s | 21/24 | 351k |
| 9 | Fabio Di Giannantonio | ITA | Gresini Ducati (GP22) | +0.788s | 21/23 | 338k |
| 10 | Joan Mir | SPA | Repsol Honda (RC213V) | +0.815s | 22/24 | 341k |
| 11 | Augusto Fernandez | SPA | Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* | +0.837s | 26/26 | 340k |
| 12 | Takaaki Nakagami | JPN | LCR Honda (RC213V) | +0.976s | 21/24 | 343k |
| 13 | Aleix Espargaro | SPA | Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) | +0.984s | 22/24 | 341k |
| 14 | Alex Marquez | SPA | Gresini Ducati (GP22) | +1.027s | 26/26 | 344k |
| 15 | Francesco Bagnaia | ITA | Ducati Lenovo (GP23) | +1.060s | 22/24 | 343k |
| 16 | Jack Miller | AUS | Red Bull KTM (RC16) | +1.381s | 21/25 | 340k |
| 17 | Miguel Oliveira | POR | RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) | +1.429s | 21/23 | 341k |
| 18 | Pol Espargaro | SPA | Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) | +1.490s | 13/21 | 346k |
| 19 | Fabio Quartararo | FRA | Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) | +1.524s | 10/10 | 341k |
| 20 | Michele Pirro | ITA | Ducati Lenovo (GP23) | +2.038s | 20/23 | 340k |
| 21 | Franco Morbidelli | ITA | Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) | +2.115s | 13/17 | 343k |
| 22 | Stefan Bradl | GER | LCR Honda (RC213V) | +2.755s | 26/26 | 341k |
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Practice 2 results:
Bold go to Q2. Binder had a lap time deleted that would have qualified him for Q2.
Bold go to Q2. Binder had a lap time deleted that would have qualified him for Q2.
| Pos | Rider | Nat | Team | Time/Diff | Lap | Max |
| 1 | Luca Marini | ITA | Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) | 1'44.782s | 24/25 | 340k |
| 2 | Jorge Martin | SPA | Pramac Ducati (GP23) | +0.008s | 24/27 | 348k |
| 3 | Aleix Espargaro | SPA | Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) | +0.051s | 22/24 | 341k |
| 4 | Marc Marquez | SPA | Repsol Honda (RC213V) | +0.335s | 26/28 | 346k |
| 5 | Marco Bezzecchi | ITA | Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) | +0.420s | 22/24 | 348k |
| 6 | Maverick Viñales | SPA | Aprilia Racing (RS-GP23) | +0.431s | 19/21 | 346k |
| 7 | Francesco Bagnaia | ITA | Ducati Lenovo (GP23) | +0.498s | 22/24 | 341k |
| 8 | Fabio Quartararo | FRA | Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) | +0.509s | 24/29 | 344k |
| 9 | Johann Zarco | FRA | Pramac Ducati (GP23) | +0.523s | 23/24 | 344k |
| 10 | Joan Mir | SPA | Repsol Honda (RC213V) | +0.550s | 19/21 | 346k |
| 11 | Fabio Di Giannantonio | ITA | Gresini Ducati (GP22) | +0.624s | 19/24 | 338k |
| 12 | Brad Binder | RSA | Red Bull KTM (RC16) | +0.757s | 19/24 | 344k |
| 13 | Alex Marquez | SPA | Gresini Ducati (GP22) | +0.768s | 22/26 | 341k |
| 14 | Franco Morbidelli | ITA | Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) | +0.794s | 26/27 | 344k |
| 15 | Augusto Fernandez | SPA | Tech3 GASGAS (RC16)* | +0.807s | 26/27 | 340k |
| 16 | Raul Fernandez | SPA | RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) | +0.930s | 20/25 | 340k |
| 17 | Miguel Oliveira | POR | RNF Aprilia (RS-GP22) | +1.081s | 16/25 | 343k |
| 18 | Jack Miller | AUS | Red Bull KTM (RC16) | +1.179s | 21/25 | 341k |
| 19 | Pol Espargaro | SPA | Tech3 GASGAS (RC16) | +1.329s | 19/20 | 346k |
| 20 | Stefan Bradl | GER | LCR Honda (RC213V) | +1.494s | 27/27 | 346k |
| 21 | Takaaki Nakagami | JPN | LCR Honda (RC213V) | +1.528s | 22/25 | 341k |
| 22 | Michele Pirro | ITA | Ducati Lenovo (GP23) | +1.791s | 25/26 | 340k |
Joined Oct 2008
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Both repsol Honda's to Q2? Who'd have bet on that?!
Also, exceptional job by Quartararo seeing as he only got 10 laps in FP1 due to a transmission issue. Yamaha didn't elaborate but they pulled Morbidelli off because of it too.
Yamaha got 27 laps in total in FP1, Bezzechi alone did 26 and combined, Ducati got 193 laps worth of data. And Yamaha wonder why they are struggling?
Also, exceptional job by Quartararo seeing as he only got 10 laps in FP1 due to a transmission issue. Yamaha didn't elaborate but they pulled Morbidelli off because of it too.
Yamaha got 27 laps in total in FP1, Bezzechi alone did 26 and combined, Ducati got 193 laps worth of data. And Yamaha wonder why they are struggling?
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Office cubicle
Honda has always been good outside of the European rounds. Lots of mistakes from what I've seen, riders missing brake points all over, specially turn 1. Binder and A.Fernandez got screwed at the end because of a yellow flag.
Also so much for that 370kmh record, instead the bikes are plateauing at 350kmh.
Also so much for that 370kmh record, instead the bikes are plateauing at 350kmh.
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Shovel's Club
There is video of it on motogp's instagram. Both of Fabs bike had issues. It seemed to slip into neutral while in 5th and then he couldn't get it to shift out of gear. The back up bike did the same thing.
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A lot of riders where missing their breaking point by going for fast laps. However Bezz missed the first corner on his practice start. Thats got to be a mind .....
The riders are struggling to find their braking markers and turn in points at Buddh. Interesting to watch these elite riders struggle mightily with the track layout. Espargaro's runoff in Turn 1 was particularly bad in P1. He nearly went all the way to the wall, and then beached the bike.
The only thing I can say about Honda's form is that it appeared to my naked eye that they are running really low rear tire pressure. Not sure if they will do that in the race and see what the stewards say or what.
The only thing I can say about Honda's form is that it appeared to my naked eye that they are running really low rear tire pressure. Not sure if they will do that in the race and see what the stewards say or what.
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I lived there on and off for close to 12 years and had a store in Manhattan for 25 yrs selling musical instruments from India. Still maintain a love/hate relationship with India. The fecklessness and incompetence of most Indian businessmen and 98% of all Indian bureaucrats is just an undeniable fact of life. The massive clusterfucking of anything no matter how simple or straight-ahead, is just built into every kind of business transaction. That's why Indians are always said to be so "fatalistic". The most commonly overheard sentence one hears 100 time a day is, Kya karengi? (What to do?). Should be printed on the Indian flag as their national slogan. To anybody wanting to claim this is bigotry on my part, I say, Go, live there for a few years and then get back to me if you still think so. Nothing that goes wrong at this event, will surprise me in the least. If it goes off at all, I will be watching the race through split fingers with my hand over my eyes, like one does when watching a video of an oncoming train about to connect with a car stuck on the tracks.
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Pomona NY
Just watched a few minutes of practice. I remember years ago when all the cars and trucks were by govt. mandate, required to convert to CNG. When the truckers heard about it, they protested by pouring into the ports in Bombay by the tens of thousands and just abandoning the trucks for weeks till there was a 20 mile long parking lot blocking all traffic into the city. Indian govt. still hasn't been able to enforce the mandate in any meaningful way. And little 125cc Honda bikes have become so cheap to own that sales have tripled and quadrupled over the last 15 years. Bicycles are almost a thing of the past. When I watch the video and see the state of the pollution there, I'm gobsmacked. It had got better for a bunch of years, but it's as bad now or worse than it was in the late '80s.
Joined Mar 2023
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Australia
Based on Practice its KTM who currently have the wooden spoon, not having a single rider going direct to Q2. At this point I've got no idea who will shine in MotoGP. Moto2 looks a lot more predictable
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Australia
While a different industry to where I use to work, it sounds like there is a big overlap in our experiences
Indian's I worked with in Australia were highly critical of successive Indian governments who promised to address the pollution problems and then did nothing. Electricity is largely coal generated, similar to Australia so its not just transportation.
Anyway its good that they managed to get the visa problems sorted, so now we can enjoy the race but is it a sport or entertainment? The Indian tax department will know...
Edit: I've heard that the marshals didn't seem to know what to do with bikes that have crashed, taking 2 laps to get rid of a bike
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Bendigo Vic
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Australia
Main 3 contenders for the championship on the front row, could be a slug out.
The 4 world champions are the closest they have been on the grid all season I think
3rd Bagnaia 1'44.203
5th Mir 1'44.454
6th M Marquez 1'44.469
8th Quartararo 1'44.724
The 4 world champions are the closest they have been on the grid all season I think
3rd Bagnaia 1'44.203
5th Mir 1'44.454
6th M Marquez 1'44.469
8th Quartararo 1'44.724
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Bendigo Vic
