Yamaha extends Rossi contract to 2018

#22 · Mar 21, 2016

kurre said:
I don't really see why people would be surprised by this. I can see why it is controversial, but not surprising. Yamaha is a business. Rossi is extremely popular. Keeping Rossi at Yamaha ensures that they will make huge amounts of money. The End.

I'm not surprised by it at all, I'm just noting that Rossi now appears to be a pay rider, where his marketing potential is more important to potential employers than his on track performance. Rossi boppers can no longer moan about ANY "Pay rider" in the championship

black101 · Mar 21, 2016

They are all pay riders until such time as they have a realistic shot at a title. If you don't sign a factory contract for a top manufacturer and get at least equal rider status, you are simply receiving a wage.
Not to decry that philosophy as many of us do this every day. Money makes the world go round after all..
The fact that many riders have to sell their "brand" to prospective teams when looking for a ride, and that brand is directly linked to their marketability, then it's no surprise that popular or successful riders get top seats. It's not a good or bad thing, it's just a thing.

#22 · Mar 21, 2016

I disagree. "Pay Rider" means someone who has in effect secured their position in a team (in this case the best one) due to mostly the revenue they are bringing the team such as personal sponsors or similar.

Karel Abraham got razzed continually by people saying he was only in MotoGP because his daddy was rich, while forgetting that he was no slouch (he did win a Moto2 race after all, more than any of us have done). Yamaha have a pick of the bunch, outside of Marquez they could have ANY rider they want, and to most likely lose out on Maverick Vinales, considered THE hot property of the future, to keep Rossi on for another 2 years after this season, means that they value the $ he brings more than results both during his remaining time on the bike and immediately afterwards, that is the definition of a pay rider.

Dr No · Mar 21, 2016

West.
Dad paid for hIs career trajectory.
Now...perhaps not.

cucoloco · Mar 21, 2016

#22

that is bad for Yamaha but I think the one that will loose the most is VR. He is going to be embarrassed by JL and if it is bad enough he will not see the end of his agreement at which point it is going to be a 'mutual agreement' between Yamaha and VR.

WVMotoGP99 · Mar 21, 2016

#22 said:
I disagree. "Pay Rider" means someone who has in effect secured their position in a team (in this case the best one) due to mostly the revenue they are bringing the team such as personal sponsors or similar.

Karel Abraham got razzed continually by people saying he was only in MotoGP because his daddy was rich, while forgetting that he was no slouch (he did win a Moto2 race after all, more than any of us have done). Yamaha have a pick of the bunch, outside of Marquez they could have ANY rider they want, and to most likely lose out on Maverick Vinales, considered THE hot property of the future, to keep Rossi on for another 2 years after this season, means that they value the $ he brings more than results both during his remaining time on the bike and immediately afterwards, that is the definition of a pay rider.

Whether he meets the definition of "pay rider" or not, Yamaha would have been stupid not to sign Rossi IF they believe they still will sign Jorge.

If they sign Jorge, (which I think they will), they will arguably have the best rider and the most popular rider. Every single team wet dream.

Now, if they don't sign Jorge, and any of the reason is due to the Rossi signing, Yamaha might have made a mistake, unless, they knew they didn't have a shot at signing Jorge to begin with.

#22 · Mar 21, 2016

WVMotoGP99 said:
Whether he meets the definition of "pay rider" or not, Yamaha would have been stupid not to sign Rossi IF they believe they still will sign Jorge.

I never said that they were wrong to sign him, merely pointing out the main reason.

WVMotoGP99 · Mar 21, 2016

#22 said:
I never said that they were wrong to sign him, merely pointing out the main reason.

Gotcha.. My bad...

p4p1 · Mar 21, 2016

I agree the plan with signing Rossi is ok if Lorenzo signs, if not then they may have some trouble.

black101 · Mar 21, 2016

#22 said:
I disagree. "Pay Rider" means someone who has in effect secured their position in a team (in this case the best one) due to mostly the revenue they are bringing the team such as personal sponsors or similar.

Karel Abraham got razzed continually by people saying he was only in MotoGP because his daddy was rich, while forgetting that he was no slouch (he did win a Moto2 race after all, more than any of us have done). Yamaha have a pick of the bunch, outside of Marquez they could have ANY rider they want, and to most likely lose out on Maverick Vinales, considered THE hot property of the future, to keep Rossi on for another 2 years after this season, means that they value the $ he brings more than results both during his remaining time on the bike and immediately afterwards, that is the definition of a pay rider.

Ah I see your intended use of the term and agree. I would think that Rossi brings more to a team than many others which although unfortunate, is a fact of life.

Jumkie · Mar 21, 2016

https://m.imgur.com/NwjP7gn

JPSLotus · Mar 21, 2016

Jumkie said:
https://m.imgur.com/NwjP7gn

Imagine what a ....... loser you have to be to model your appearance on Rossi.

Oh wait I don't need to imagine, there's the proof.

#22 · Mar 22, 2016

Lorenzo's face is priceless in that.

yamfan · Mar 22, 2016

#22 said:
Lorenzo's face is priceless in that.

I wonder what's Spanish for "what a fookin bell end" [emoji1]

J4rn0 · Mar 22, 2016

michaelm said:
...............
I catch vague intimations that you are perhaps not a Lorenzo fan these days, btw.

Oh, are these days different from yester days...? :unsure:

J4rn0 · Mar 22, 2016

Aw Mang said:
I think the surprise is the timing of the announcement and the length of the contract. Yamaha probably knew Rossi isn't going anywhere except signing with them. They could have waited till the end of 2016 to see how Rossi does and then sign him. During 2016, Yamaha can try to sign Maverick or any young talent for the future. By offering Rossi and Lorenzo at the same time, and if Lorenzo had signed right away like Rossi, Yamaha would basically have no young guns to replace Rossi once he retires. Maybe they can grab someone from the Tech3 team? Seems to me that the marketing department called the shot instead of the racing department? Maybe Yamaha expects Lorenzo will sign with Ducati anyway, so they can go out and pursue Maverick? I can be totally wrong though.

Anyway that's just my wild arse guess thrown in for the sake of discussion.

The length of the contract is to ensure that he will end his career at Yamaha. Those saying that Rossi had nowehere else to go are speaking out of spite, because no doubt there is Suzuki ready to welcome him. Aprilia as well (and KTM) would gladly paint the #46 on their fairings, assuming Rossi was nterested in doing a Lawson-Cagiva type of pre-retirement.

MdubSTYLIE · Mar 22, 2016

Jumkie said:
https://m.imgur.com/NwjP7gn

He's like the Italian Elvis. I bet there are more Rossi sightings after he dies than 2pac.

Jumkie · Mar 22, 2016

J4rn0 said:
The length of the contract is to ensure that he will end his career at Yamaha. Those saying that Rossi had nowehere else to go are speaking out of spite, because no doubt there is Suzuki ready to welcome him. Aprilia as well (and KTM) would gladly paint the #46 on their fairings, assuming Rossi was nterested in doing a Lawson-Cagiva type of pre-retirement.

Sorry J4rn0, but I gotta call ........ buddy. Rossi had nowhere to go. Are you forgetting Rossi's capricious condition? He said he would only race if he could do so for the important positions? That absolutely narrowed down his option to basically stay and hope Yamaha offered him a deal, lucky for him he has Lin Jarvis and the Yamaha marketing department to thank. Its the same same reason he considered not showing up to Valencia, if he can't be guaranteed a top 3, he won't show up. There are only 2 other manufacturers in podium contention, Honda and Ducati. So no, you're wrong, based on his conditions, he effectively had nowhere to go. His only "option" was to thank Yamaha for giving him a golden parachute.

Aw Mang · Mar 22, 2016

J4rn0 said:
The length of the contract is to ensure that he will end his career at Yamaha. Those saying that Rossi had nowehere else to go are speaking out of spite, because no doubt there is Suzuki ready to welcome him. Aprilia as well (and KTM) would gladly paint the #46 on their fairings, assuming Rossi was nterested in doing a Lawson-Cagiva type of pre-retirement.

You don't understand what I said. When I said Rossi has nowhere to go, I mostly meant competitive rides like Honda and Ducati. At his age, Rossi wouldn't want to go to any non competitive teams like Suzuki, aprilia, ktm or any of the satellite teams. I don't speak out of spite, just reality.

Aw Mang · Mar 22, 2016

Jumkie said:
Sorry J4rn0, but I gotta call ........ buddy. Rossi had nowhere to go. Are you forgetting Rossi's capricious condition? He said he would only race if he could do so for the important positions? That absolutely narrowed down his option to basically stay and hope Yamaha offered him a deal, lucky for him he has Lin Jarvis and the Yamaha marketing department to thank. Its the same same reason he considered not showing up to Valencia, if he can't be guaranteed a top 3, he won't show up. There are only 2 other manufacturers in podium contention, Honda and Ducati. So no, you're wrong, based on his conditions, he effectively had nowhere to go. His only "option" was to thank Yamaha for giving him a golden parachute.

Exactly!!

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