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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Aug 15 2008, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought Schwantz was committed to 2 more years of coaching the Red Bull rookies cup?


well it's not a lateral move so i dont see any problems
 
Schwantz won't have any more involvement with the Rizla Suzuki team than he has right now. In the interview that's posted in another thread, Schwantz goes on to say that Suzuki has been asking him for the past two years if he would run a third factory bike and each year his response has been yes and each year Suzuki pushes it off. It happened again this year. There will only be two Suzukis on the grid in 2009.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 15 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Schwantz won't have any more involvement with the Rizla Suzuki team than he has right now. In the interview that's posted in another thread, Schwantz goes on to say that Suzuki has been asking him for the past two years if he would run a third factory bike and each year his response has been yes and each year Suzuki pushes it off. It happened again this year. There will only be two Suzukis on the grid in 2009.


yeah, I predict he wont have any involvement with Rizla either, but I do think in the near future he will have his own team
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Aug 15 2008, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I still think Nicky would have been fantastic on the 990 Ducati than the 800. His style is more like Melandri and Elias than anyone else. Look at them right now.
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Yes,that's what i have thought too.He is an agressive rider quite far from a 250rider style who doesn't like TC that much.As i understand Honda and Yamaha has made their engines drivable by mapping and developing of the engine it self,which has made it harder for them to also get the highest output on top.
Ducati has developed the engine for output on top and high revs,then the riders had to use the TC to make it work.Even if Ducati has developed their engine to make it more driveable and the Pneumo engine Hayden has is harder to tame or what ever,there is still big difference.
I think that's why the former Gresini and Yamaha riders are struggeling.They didn't have to use that much TC because their engines worked well or certainly better than the Ducati without it.
In short ,is Hayden going to come to terms with Ducati's TC?
Or is the Duc. better suited to some 250 rider who has never ridden a 990 bike?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Aug 16 2008, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Hayden/Ducati rumor is losing steam although I hope it's true.

For some reason I think Gibby gets a 1 season tour of duty.

You ever been to a big concert and you're waiting for the band to come out and the lights are down and a roadie walks out and adjusts something and everyone screams and hoots, then settles back down, and this happens a few times and everyone ignores this, and then the band comes out and you are surprised.

My analogy sucks but I still think the Nicki thing is like this, it's been touted so many times and when it wasn't announced at or before Laguna we quietened down, when it wasn't announced in the break we settled again and it didn't happen (the announcement) for this race (Brno) we turn our backs.

The band is gonna come out and catch us all by surprise, it's just stagecraft i.e. I still think Nicki will be on a Ducati; he just has to work the timing out.

As for Sete, I think you're right, Ducati will throw him in not for anything other than showing the bike can be ridden by someone else (and a 500/990 rider at that). If Sete can ride it they should fedex a lifetime supply of tissues to Alex Barros with a "hurt feelings" claim form.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Aug 16 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The band is gonna come out and catch us all by surprise, it's just stagecraft i.e. I still think Nicki will be on a Ducati; he just has to work the timing out.

According to Toby and Julien today it will be in two weeks time (prob)
 
Ducati Marlboro: Stoner and Hayden

Fiat Yamaha: Rossi and Lorenzo

Repsol Honda: Pedrosa and Dovizioso

Rizla Suzuki: Capirossi and Vermeulen

Monster Kawasaki: Hopkins and Kallio

Gresini Honda: Melandri and Spies

Tech 3 Yamaha: Edwards and Toseland

Alice Ducati: deAngelis - Gibernau

Scot Honda: Nakano

LCR Honda: de Puniet

Aspar Kawasaki: Bautista
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anders GUZZI @ Aug 16 2008, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In short ,is Hayden going to come to terms with Ducati's TC?
Or is the Duc. better suited to some 250 rider who has never ridden a 990 bike?

IF Hayden gets the ride at Ducati, as much as I want to see him succeed I have a feeling he will have difficulty. I am only going off of the fact both he and Melandri rode the 990 Hondas to success and how both have had a hard time with the 800s. I hope I am wrong though. But on another note, how Stoner went from a crashing 990 rider to a dominating world champion in the first season of the 800's is still an amazing feat.
 
During the 250 broadcast, the announcers made mention that Takahashi will go to JR Scot next year. First I heard this ever mentioned, they made it sound like a done deal. I don't think he is ready for the big leagues yet. But then again, we all know that the Moto GP lower ranks are all about sponsorship filler, rather then potential champions. I suppose Shinya's gotta go eventually and Japan will need their representation.
 
My take:

FIAT Yamaha: Rossi / Lorenzo

Marlboro Ducati: Stoner / Hayden

HRC: Pedrosa / Dovizioso

Suzuki: Capirossi / Vermeulen

Kawasaki: Hopkins / Gibernau

Tech3 Yamaha: Edwards / Toseland

Gresini Honda: Nakano / De Angelis

LCR: Melandri

Alice: Elias / Kallio

Aspar Kawasaki: Bautista
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 14 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it's still to early to tell, but if I had to guess I think it would look something like this:

Ducati Marlboro: Stoner and Hayden
Fiat Yamaha: Rossi and Lorenzo
Repsol Honda: Pedrosa and Dovizioso
Rizla Suzuki: Capirossi and Vermeulen
Monster Kawasaki: Hopkins and Spies
Gresini Honda: Nakano and Melandri
Tech 3 Yamaha: Edwards and Toseland
Alice Ducati: Gibernau and Kallio
Scot Honda: de Angelis
LCR Honda: de Puniet
looks good but wheres guinter's
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Aug 14 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kawi will still suck no matter who is on the bike. Even Valentino would struggle with the thing.

If there is one person that could get the Kawi going it's Rossi. Unfortunately for Kawi, they don't have the money.
 
I think this weekend's results may have changed many things.

Nicky is for sure gone from Repsol.
Repsol Honda def realizes the importance of 2 major contenders after this season, so they'll add Dovi despite what Pedrosa/Puig says. It's probably already done.

These guys stay put:
Vermulen/Capirossi
Lorenzo/Rossi
Edwards/Toseland
Elias/Guitoli(cause nobody else will take the Ducati)
Nakano/de Angelis

So the only teams with spaces open are Kawasaki, LCR Honda, Ducati Marlboro, maybe a 3rd factory Suzuki, maybe a 3rd factory Kawasaki.

LCR Honda has to dump de Puniet. They will go after Melandri hard. JR Scot may also be in the mix for him, but I think they've already got a man.

If West can get Top 9 for the rest of the season, he'll probably be kept on. His result in Brno was very solid. If not, Kawasaki may also bid for Marco, but it may be too late. The only way I see Marco at Kawasaki is as a third bike.

Ducati only has two choices Sete and Nicky, I'd guess Nicky is a 2:1 favorite. Otherwise Nicky goes to WSBK on a Honda.

Suzuki could bring in Swantz or Spies as a 3rd, depending on how Indianapolis goes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Aug 19 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think this weekend's results may have changed many things.


If West can get Top 9 for the rest of the season, he'll probably be kept on. His result in Brno was very solid. If not, Kawasaki may also bid for Marco, but it may be too late. The only way I see Marco at Kawasaki is as a third bike.

Ducati only has two choices Sete and Nicky, I'd guess Nicky is a 2:1 favorite. Otherwise Nicky goes to WSBK on a Honda.

Suzuki could bring in Swantz or Spies as a 3rd, depending on how Indianapolis goes.

Marco is apparently confirmed for Kawasaki.
Sete going to Alice. Probably.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (howard @ Aug 19 2008, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marco is apparently confirmed for Kawasaki.
Sete going to Alice. Probably.
I was partially wrong on Marco on the Kawasaki. However, they still could do three bikes if they get results from West. Glad for Marco though. From what I saw/heard at Brno, the Kwaks are becoming better bikes.
I don't see why Sete would go to a satelite team. But I could see him replacing Guintoli.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Aug 18 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IF Hayden gets the ride at Ducati, as much as I want to see him succeed I have a feeling he will have difficulty. I am only going off of the fact both he and Melandri rode the 990 Hondas to success and how both have had a hard time with the 800s. I hope I am wrong though. But on another note, how Stoner went from a crashing 990 rider to a dominating world champion in the first season of the 800's is still an amazing feat.
Who knows,with the developement Ducati seem to focus on lately it could be much easier for a rider to change to their team by next year.Ducati has now had Capirossi,Gibernau(briefly)Barros and Melandri who has a totally different riding style and demands than Stoner.Almost all of them are good at developing a bike,I don't know if Barros had that much input though.All these riders demands probarbly help Ducati to develope a bike more towards Haydens demands,if he is lucky.I think he would be more sucessful than Melandri,Guintoli and Elias but that would still make him only a top 10 rider.If he really come to terms with it there could be podiums.Also,we will see what manufacturer who benefits most from the new regulations that probarbly is going to be there for 2009.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 18 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>looks good but wheres guinter's
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Next year he'll probably be at his home watching Moto GP like the rest of us... munching on a bag of Cheeto's with a 12 pack of Bud Light on sale that he bought using his club card, drinking his sorrows away.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Aug 15 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You ever been to a big concert and you're waiting for the band to come out and the lights are down and a roadie walks out and adjusts something and everyone screams and hoots, then settles back down, and this happens a few times and everyone ignores this, and then the band comes out and you are surprised.

I dunno, this is a bit different. I suspected for some reason or another that the 2009 customer Honda was going to feature pneumatic valve technology. At Brno, Julian Ryder confirmed the rumors.

Nicky's not interested in disrupting a team that already has its #1 rider. He wants to be the number 1 for the first time in his career.

If Gresini get pneumatic valves, I suspect he will be the #1 at Gresini and Nakano will be his test mule.
 
in my opinion if nicky stays with honda but on a customer spec bike, he's a fool.
he'll just be spending another year riding the bike he's already on, and he don't get on with it now, so can't see him doing it next year.
 

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