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Ryder and Moody were discussing it on eurosport yesterday.
I posted it on the last page as soon as it was said, because it screwed my idea of Bautista going to HRC if he gets to grips with the honda like Simmo did last year.
Jeez if he was here we wouldn't need this thread.
They also seemed pretty sure that Rossi will be staying with the Ducamda
That's my thoughts exactly. If DORNA change the rookie rule then Repsol Honda can get Marquez on their bike which would soften the blow of having Stoner retiring as he would be replaced with the next up and coming superstar. It's funny how things work out like this; it happened in F1 when Schumacher retired in 2006 but then Hamilton entered in 2007 and Doohan retiring in 1999 and Rossi entering in 2000.
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I have read that Ezy has since come out and categorically stated they wont change the rookie rule to accomodate Marquez....Bradl to Repsol and Marquez to get his ride or Bautistas with full factory support perhaps...silly season will be more epic than the racing!
Expeleta surely knows already that a section of the fan base doesn't like the silver spoon treatment Marquez is already receiving. The backlash after the move on Luthi would not have gone un-noticed. He knows that it would be PR suicide for the rookie rule to be over turned to accommodate Marquez so I highly doubt he will fold on it. In fact I think he will sing his refusal to change the rule from the roof top as a way of disguising the favourable treatment Marquez will receive on almost every other front.
The Rookie rule does not stipulate that a rider can not get the BEST equipment available from the manufacturer it simply means they can not be on the designated 'Factory' team. It doesn't even mean that it can't be a Repsol sponsored bike.
The Rookie rule does not stipulate that a rider can not get the BEST equipment available from the manufacturer it simply means they can not be on the designated 'Factory' team. It doesn't even mean that it can't be a Repsol sponsored bike.
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Even if Marquez isnt "favoured" there will be no barriers to his success thats for sure....a full factory bike beckons
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Last year i would've agreed with you, Not a fan either, but seeing again how competitive he is on the Honda while Aoyama just isn't makes me think Rea is pretty special. Ofcourse this can only be comfirmed if he where to ride a different bike, but his speed compared to teammates and loyalty to Honda should deserve him something more in my eyes.
Bradl - 1 year HRC
Everybody else on a factory ride stays put. Except Spies who loses out to 4 or 35....
Everybody else on a factory ride stays put. Except Spies who loses out to 4 or 35....
Crutchlow has strong ties at Team Yamaha. His crew chief at WSS was Wilco Zeelenberg, current team manager for Team Yamaha.
If Stoner wins this year, it would be a mistake for Vale to take over that bike - for if Vale doesn't achieve the same result (at HRC), it will further cement the fact that Vale couldn't do what Casey did (yet again), as already mentioned above. I think Jorge will stay where he is and there is no way Vale will go back there - Jorge has his measure. I think Vale will have to stay at Ducati, if he still stays with MotoGp, that is.
Bradl is riding very well. Maybe a good option. Cal is riding very well too - another option. But he is gonna have to convincingly beat Dovi all the time to be considered. At the moment he only has one up on Dovi. And yesterday, Dovi looked like a man on a mission. So it won't be easy for Cal... Will be very interseting. Bautista could be an option, but needs to improve. I have the feeling a lot of riders will be pushing a lot harder for the rest of this season. Maybe Stoner's announcement will inadvertadly give this season the boost it needs...
Bradl is riding very well. Maybe a good option. Cal is riding very well too - another option. But he is gonna have to convincingly beat Dovi all the time to be considered. At the moment he only has one up on Dovi. And yesterday, Dovi looked like a man on a mission. So it won't be easy for Cal... Will be very interseting. Bautista could be an option, but needs to improve. I have the feeling a lot of riders will be pushing a lot harder for the rest of this season. Maybe Stoner's announcement will inadvertadly give this season the boost it needs...
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Its ironic that the same bike that has made a 7x Premiere Class World Champion look so ordinary may now offer sanctuary from further embarassment...as you say should he move to HRC or Yam and fail to perform on a Jap factory bike it will again leave a blot on his copybook.
Ironic how a 2 times word champion has nothing to prove yet a 9 times would champion still has everything to prove.
I've skimmed most of the replies. There has been no mention of any Moto2 players entering beside Marquez. Brad Smith/S.Redding and Iannone will come into the series and I don't think they all will be shuffled to CRT.
Brad has a guaranteed seat with Tech 3 (CRT/prototype?)
Do we really believe whoever wins the Tech 3 shoot out, Dov or Cal, that the loser will stay at Tech 3 or that the winner will not push for a seat in the Factory squad. A few of the Moto2 guys will move up and I don't see Bautista/Barbera, Hernandez,Pirro, Silva going anywhere. James Ellison and Colin Edwards may be out of the series. How large will the grid become? The addition of 3 to 5 more CRTs?
Repsol
Rossi (perfect story to end the career - return to Honda/championship)
Pedrosa
Yamaha
Jorge
Dovi (Dovi wins the Tech 3 shootout)
Ducati
Hayden
Bradl - -- Spies?(I really think that he may be out of the series)
Tech 3
B.Smith
DePuniet(wishful thinking)
Gresini
Crutchlow (factory bike)
Iannone (Italian for the sponsors)
LCR
Bautista
Marquez (factory bike)
Pramac
Iannone
Barbera?
Redding?
Brad has a guaranteed seat with Tech 3 (CRT/prototype?)
Do we really believe whoever wins the Tech 3 shoot out, Dov or Cal, that the loser will stay at Tech 3 or that the winner will not push for a seat in the Factory squad. A few of the Moto2 guys will move up and I don't see Bautista/Barbera, Hernandez,Pirro, Silva going anywhere. James Ellison and Colin Edwards may be out of the series. How large will the grid become? The addition of 3 to 5 more CRTs?
Repsol
Rossi (perfect story to end the career - return to Honda/championship)
Pedrosa
Yamaha
Jorge
Dovi (Dovi wins the Tech 3 shootout)
Ducati
Hayden
Bradl - -- Spies?(I really think that he may be out of the series)
Tech 3
B.Smith
DePuniet(wishful thinking)
Gresini
Crutchlow (factory bike)
Iannone (Italian for the sponsors)
LCR
Bautista
Marquez (factory bike)
Pramac
Iannone
Barbera?
Redding?
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i think every sensible fan knows that rossi has got nothing to prove. the only thing he had left to prove was that he would be able to ride stoners machine which didn't work out too well but that hardly "taints his legacy", it was just the first failure of a great career. can't look into rossis head, but if being remembered as (almost) pefect is important , jumping on stoners bike and not be able to do what he did again (but this time on a sorted bike) or being beaten by his teammate (which could very well happen at yamaha with lorenzo) are big risks. if honda get their act together and sort out chatter issues and what else is wrong with the bike currently so that the rc is once again the best bike then yes, it would be sensible for him to go there
i firmly believe he is better than pedrosa
i firmly believe he is better than pedrosa
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
thats actually a really good idea. especially if hes dornas favorite son, would help promote crts for sure even if its just for a year.
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