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This can't possibly be Race Direction's rationale. Or they are applying double standard.
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I only just noticed this, lord knows why but thanks sir
Interesting point Jums. I think as Genius said, his penalty was for causing an accident and not abusing the limits of the track, which brings us nicely to..
Well said, and that is what Jumkie is debating. Rossi at Sepang last yr was NOT given a ride through or time penalty as race direction "wanted to speak to both riders and decide on a punishment without impulse" when Rossi caused another rider to crash.
However, when your name ISN'T Valentino Rossi then you simply get a ride through if you cause a crash, no questions asked.
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Wait - this was with around five laps to go? I saw dust kicked up, but couldn't tell whether it was Dani or Vale. Should have rewound it.
Yeah about 5 laps to go, he hit the red bit and the grass on the last corner, even the commentator (Matt birt) mentioned it. They obviously turned a blind eye to Rossi but not Maverick
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More than one or two, do you have access to any other websites? It's quite easy to find such info if you look. Also depending on whether the riders realised they had ran off and slowed down to negate any advantage gained. Cal's interview on crash.net is interesting in that respect.
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So you don't know if it's more than one or two, therefore don't know the rules, amazing
I have access to other websites but there not the rules are they, it's propaganda on sites such as crash net. MotoGP and race direction know the rules.
Obvious run off like Marquez at silverstone yes he held his hand up. Where the rider exceeds the limits by a small amount in a race is technically gaining an advantage as it may result in a faster line. He is gaining an advantage therefore breaking the rules ie track limits. Rossi realised he did this but do you expect him to put his hand up and say so, no. So to say "they have to realise they had a run off" is nob rot.
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As I watched it that's what the commentators said when Vinale's penalty came on screen. You're trying to make out Rossi got away with one when he only ran off a single time. Repeat offending was the reason for applying penalties.
I just wanted to know the rules , which you clearly don't know. I'm not making out anything about the cheatAs I watched it that's what the commentators said when Vinale's penalty came on screen. You're trying to make out Rossi got away with one when he only ran off a single time. Repeat offending was the reason for applying penalties.
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Why is it such a groundbreaking deal for you? Race direction know the rules, the bt sport team explained the (track limit) rule several times. I don't need to go into the *in's and out's* of a fart. I'm quite happy with how it was explained.
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I don't watch bt sport.Why is it such a groundbreaking deal for you? Race direction know the rules, the bt sport team explained the (track limit) rule several times. I don't need to go into the *in's and out's* of a fart. I'm quite happy with how it was explained.
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That's what a forum is for isn't it. I had a question, I wanted to find out an answer
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It'll be in the grand prix rulebook if you look for that.
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Yes, technically. However the point is why did Zarco get a ridethrough almost immediately when Rossi did not. Both actions resulted in a rider crashing and Rossi's was worse as it was premeditated.
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Race direction and Carmelo were too busy trying to find a ruling that wouldn't result in a suspension or disqualification. Can't assess any penalties lest they .... up #thegrandfinale.
Either way, the lack of an immediate ruling on the matter has had profound implications for the sport as a whole.
Either way, the lack of an immediate ruling on the matter has had profound implications for the sport as a whole.
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Race Direction immediately took action on Zarco despite it being a racing incident of a common variety. Since it was near the end of the race they issued a time penalty equivalent to a ride through because there wasn't enough time for the rider to serve the penalty in real time (the rider gets several laps before they must serve a penalty notice). Contrast this to Rossi who caused a crash in a rare if ever seen deliberate maneuver to eliminate a fellow competitor. Looking over several times to gage and adjust his position to facilitate the victim's balance and eventual crash. It was early in the race (as Rossi's supporters have pointed out) and there was ample time to issue a ride through penalty. Race Direction refused to take action in real time (and admitted the decision was based on Rossi being the points leader, interestingly so was Zarco). Rossi was allowed to feature on the podium, celebrating with a trophy to mark the occasion, and keep his points. Contrast this with Zarco, a far less egregious maneuver that was not antithetical to good faith competition, yet he was issued a penalty that resulted in zero points with immediate effect.
The double standard of how Race Direction treated these two incidents is a scandalous reminder of how Rossi's treatment is astonishingly exceptional!
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