Toseland to take Elias's spot?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antfan @ Jul 1 2007, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I read that Hodgson was returning to AMA with Corona Honda, i doubt a GP ride would be wasted on him... Give someone with some potential a go..

As in the team that James Ellison has been riding for. Has it not worked out for James, or is he getting the replacement ride because he has more worthwhile experience? Or have i got my wires crossed, what is the source of this corona honda talk?

Toseland should stay in WSKB and try and win the title. The Gresini honda has done nothing this year. Why jeopardise a world title shot on a few rides on a non factory bike? He will more than likely get his chance in the near future.

Cheers antfan, it says he'd ride alongside Ellison. I'll be interested to see which of these two comes off best.

JT will do what he's always done, .... about and be indecisive. He already has a WSB title and if he doesn't get MotoGP out of his head and get on with the job in hand he won't get another. Otherwise, if he's going to do it, do motoGP, just ....... do it. Take the chance and go for it for the rest of the season with Gresini, the Hondas will be at the sharp end again by the start of 2008, he might wish he could get a Gresini Honda next year. Otherwise get on with WSB and tell Burnett to keep his mouth shut. Hell if Burnett thinks that Honda would veto the whole thing then why bother talking about it, and why would Gresini ask? My mother is more decisive.

Put Johnny Rea on it. It's a no brainer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jul 1 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Put Johnny Rea on it. It's a no brainer.

Kiyo is better

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 1 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kiyo is better

Seeing as Rea was due to race at Donnington for KR, now a spot at Gresini has opened up it seems that would be the most logical move at the moment.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh @ Jul 1 2007, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Seeing as Rea was due to race at Donnington for KR, now a spot at Gresini has opened up it seems that would be the most logical move at the moment.

Honda pulled him out of the British grand prix because he has to many other responsibilities, so i would be surprised if he was allowed to take the replacement ride now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 1 2007, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Honda pulled him out of the British grand prix because he has to many other responsibilities, so i would be surprised if he was allowed to take the replacement ride now.
Very true. But then that was a one off race, to add to his scheduel. So by moving to MotoGP as opposed to as well as. However given the opportunity to ride for Honda for the rest of the season I can't see why they'd oppose as much as they did for the one off ride.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 1 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kiyo is better

I agree, I always thought that Kiyo was being groomed for the MotoGP until last year as I thought as soon as he won the BSB championship Honda would want him in MotoGP.

He deserves to be in MotoGP and hopefully he will do a bit better than he did at Valencia 05 and the last half of the 03 season.

Half a season on a Honda with the solemn promise from the big Honda chief that ALL the Honda 800's will have upgrades soon is a different thing to a one-off and most likely fruitless ride on a sub-standard KR bike. Is it worth taking a chance and pulling Rea out of BSB to ride the Gresini bike? It might be. If Toseland either won't or isn't permitted by HRC to take it on, the latter being most likely, then Rea might be their best bet. The only rider we know of that's truly available might be Hodgson but is he too old and is he even likely to adapt quickly enough? The two most likely British riders to get into GP's are Toseland and Rea, from HRC's point of view, putting Rea in the Gresini seat might be the lesser of two evils. The big thing is, who else would Honda put on Elias' bike? I can't think of anyone else more feasible. JT is still favourite to take the WSB title, maybe that's more important to Honda. Rea is pretty much joint favourite to take the BSB title, with another Honda rider, Kyonari, so maybe Kyo ticks the box for Honda as far as Keeping the BSB title away from Ducati, whilst Toseland will be expexted to do the same in WSB. Can anybody think of anyone else for Toni's ride?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jul 1 2007, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Half a season on a Honda with the solemn promise from the big Honda chief that ALL the Honda 800's will have upgrades soon is a different thing to a one-off and most likely fruitless ride on a sub-standard KR bike. Is it worth taking a chance and pulling Rea out of BSB to ride the Gresini bike? It might be. If Toseland either won't or isn't permitted by HRC to take it on, the latter being most likely, then Rea might be their best bet. The only rider we know of that's truly available might be Hodgson but is he too old and is he even likely to adapt quickly enough? The two most likely British riders to get into GP's are Toseland and Rea, from HRC's point of view, putting Rea in the Gresini seat might be the lesser of two evils. The big thing is, who else would Honda put on Elias' bike? I can't think of anyone else more feasible. JT is still favourite to take the WSB title, maybe that's more important to Honda. Rea is pretty much joint favourite to take the BSB title, with another Honda rider, Kyonari, so maybe Kyo ticks the box for Honda as far as Keeping the BSB title away from Ducati, whilst Toseland will be expexted to do the same in WSB. Can anybody think of anyone else for Toni's ride?

Temporarily the bike should be ridden by either hodgeson or Fabrizio. Long term i think it should be either Dovi, Kiyo, Rae or Toseland in that order of priority.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 28 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Get real, the Honda is rubbish and he wont know the track at all, and has barely ridden a GP bike ever.

I agree - the honda is competitive in WSBK & is improving in US SBK, but the 800 motogp bike is still a lemon - getting better, but the pecking order is & will remain minirosa, haystack & way way later satellite teams. JT should 1st win at what he's really good at & look around for 2008 - there's going to be a lot of change

I wanna see Kiyo get a shot and see him do well. If not for anything else, just to prove that Japanese riders can hack it in MotoGP. Nakano and Tamada aren't giving their country a good name in racing right now!

Alternatively, pull Kevin Schwantz out of retirement and stick him on there for a few races.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 1 2007, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Toseland should stay in WSKB and try and win the title. The Gresini honda has done nothing this year. Why jeopardise a world title shot on a few rides on a non factory bike? He will more than likely get his chance in the near future.

This is the team Sete pushed Rossi to the limits with. Honda have the most wins in premier class and the most money. If Toseland proved himself he would get some factory support.

Its still going to be better than a factory ride at Kawasaki or somewhere like that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jul 2 2007, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is the team Sete pushed Rossi to the limits with. Honda have the most wins in premier class and the most money. If Toseland proved himself he would get some factory support.

Its still going to be better than a factory ride at Kawasaki or somewhere like that.

You sure? Ant West, aboard a Kawasaki, beat home the customer Honda's of Melandri, Checa, Nakano etc just last race.. Sure, Honda will improve, but whose to say Kawasaki wont improve at a similar rate?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antfan @ Jul 2 2007, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You sure? Ant West, aboard a Kawasaki, beat home the customer Honda's of Melandri, Checa, Nakano etc just last race.. Sure, Honda will improve, but whose to say Kawasaki wont improve at a similar rate?

Exactly! The kawasaki has full factory support and the Gresini doesnt. It's proven to be competitive this year and the Gresini honda hasnt. I know which one I'd prefer to be on at the moment.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antfan @ Jul 2 2007, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You sure? Ant West, aboard a Kawasaki, beat home the customer Honda's of Melandri, Checa, Nakano etc just last race.. Sure, Honda will improve, but whose to say Kawasaki wont improve at a similar rate?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 2 2007, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Exactly! The kawasaki has full factory support and the Gresini doesnt. It's proven to be competitive this year and the Gresini honda hasnt. I know which one I'd prefer to be on at the moment.
The Kawasaki may very well continue progressing and be a very formidable ride, they are certainly on the right track. However with Honda, you know that it's only a matter of time before it's the best bike on the grid. This is the first time in recent years that I recall an HRC effort being off the pace. It goes to show what sort of reputation that factory has made for itself.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgo @ Jul 2 2007, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE..... If i keep saying it maybe he will take the ride! SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE SETE!

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